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https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2020/11/15/majority-people-with-covid-going-work-survey-finds/MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WMC) - Shelby County health officials say a major reason theyre seeing more COVID-19 cases stems from infected people going to work and continuing to socialize with family and friends.
In a survey with more than 300 people whove been infected, 53 percent admitted to going to work during their infectious period, when they could pass the virus to others.
When we see people with mild symptoms, they have a new onset cough or feel fatigued or feel a little bit off, said David Sweat with the Shelby County Health Department. They do what we typically do in America. They just kind of push through and still go to work.
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The survey also found 27 percent of people with COVID-19 admitted to going to a social activity when they were infectious.
A bit more at link, explaining how covidiots take their mass off at work and become "lax" in social situations.
Once again, I am left wondering how the hell people become this stupid and so egocentric?
Guessing this is pretty typical of those "red areas" of states with soaring covid case nubers.
Mystery solved: Egocentric asshats!
Lars39
(26,106 posts)Just glad he wasnt outright fired.
Grrrrrrr!
So sorry your son was singled out for being responsible. Are you in a red area?
This is just beyond my comprehension.
Lars39
(26,106 posts)And he was isolating because of his exposure by a co-worker.
Hav
(5,969 posts)It's almost material for a comedy skit if this kind of attitude wouldn't kill so many people.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Plantation mentality businesses.
And stupid people, lots of them!
Before moving here, I never would have believe such stupid people existed tbh.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)So sorry your son was demoted because he was being responsible!
Oneironaut
(5,486 posts)Its our Capitalist system. They dont care who gets infected - theyll just replace dead cogs with new ones. Money is more important, of course.
Plus, many of these people can not afford not to work. Nobody is paying them. Its infect others or starve. The stimulus money all went to corporations.
DSandra
(999 posts)The problem is that eventually capital figures out how to beat the checks, gets drunk with power, and this is part of the result.
PSPS
(13,579 posts)The bill includes federal payments to workers to sustain them without them having to go to work. We can't have that!!111!!111! Must concentrate solely on packing the courts!!111!!
Walleye
(30,977 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)TN.
Walleye
(30,977 posts)Wikipedia-The Scopes Trial, formally known as The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes and commonly referred to as the Scopes Monkey Trial, was an American legal case in July 1925 in which a high school teacher, John T. Scopes, was accused of violating Tennessee's Butler Act, which had made it unlawful to teach human evolution in any state-funded school.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ty for enlightening me on this case.
Yup many are literally that stupid here.
Freddie
(9,256 posts)Who penalize people for taking sick time - written warnings, bad reviews, firings after so many occurrences. Youd think theyd be more understanding in a pandemic but probably not.
Midnight Writer
(21,712 posts)As a long time union rep, I can testify that most employers don't give a damn about the welfare of their workers.
In fact, many management types consider the working folks to be their enemies.
Walleye
(30,977 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)no surprise there are a lot of selfish assholes around
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)and in America it's often a choice between working while sick or feeding your family
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Plantation mentality businesses!
My intention was not to revictimize employees of such irresponsible businesses.
What I hear here regularly 8s "oh ya, the virus. I'm so d9ne with that." As if they can just dismiss the pandemic & have it disappear.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)HYPOCRITES
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Chumputin worshipping idiot MS gov following Moscow Mitch's lead in saying he will not cooerate with Joe's covid plans.
I can find news link if you want to read it.
Sensible leaders will cooperate, I'm sure! Reupuked, probably not unless:
1. We win both senate runoffs, which will leave them quivering in fear; or
2. Joe's team finds some other way to squeeze them, financially, perhaps.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)She tested positive after 3 days of coming in sick and not telling anyone she wasn't feeling well. Luckily nobody at work caught it, but she gave it to both of her elderly parents. Her father passed away over the weekend.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Glad nobody at work caught it!
On some level, even if not consciously, she will live with the guilt every moment of every day.
So glad you are ok!
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)after the trip, but when I talked to her last week she said she had no idea how she caught it 🙄 she was already trying to convince herself during our conversation that it wasn't her fault even though she continued to go see her parents. I really had to bite my tongue to not yell at her that obviously it was her fault. Most of the people I work with think Covid is just like the flu and live their lives like there is no pandemic so I wouldn't have much sympathy if they did get sick.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)The truth would be too painful.
What I am.hearing from people here in TN is "oh, ya, the virus. Ya, i'm so done with that." Always followed by laughter.
I guess they really think denial will make it go away.
MANative
(4,112 posts)We do daily checks with EVERY employee and if there are any symptoms, they are immediately sent home (with pay). They must answer several questions about travel and group activities for exposure. If their answers are affirmative, they are sent home to work remotely for as long as it takes to produce negative tests AFTER a 14-day wait.
We've given employees every bit of equipment they need to effectively work remotely. We are looking out for the health and safety of each individual, but also for their colleagues. This approach has allowed us to continue operations without a single hiccup. We have had at least five positive cases, and no one has lost pay, standing, job assignments, etc. Everyone is intact. We have closed the office after each positive test, doing a full disinfection and keeping it closed for two weeks, just to be extra safe.
We are trying to be responsible corporate citizens and showing care for our employees. We think it's the right thing to do, but also good business. We will survive as a business while we're aware of at least seven of our competitors who've closed down permanently, at least in part because they couldn't figure out how to successfully implement remote work processes. I honestly don't get why other executives don't use the same approach.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Not sure why repukes are trying to kill & debilitate our entire population.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)'What do you mean I have to come in there to work everyday? We've CLEARLY demonstrated that at least half us can WFH and it still gets the job done; so what is this bullshit? Once a week for meetings and paperwork should be sufficent...'.
Except for owners/managers who think they're only important if they can see all they're peons standing in line at the time clock...
Tink41
(537 posts)THIS is NOT going on in the building trades. They would shut a job down because of infections, and those workers would get transferred to other jobs. Can't miss a lick of pay. The General Contractor offers people to get tested once they know they were exposed
to a worker who is out sick, you have a few on site that get tested, the rest refuse, don't want to rock the boat.
Another issue is lack of sanitation. It was dismal before the virus, I can't imagine the horror show going on now. 95% of jobsites have no access to running water, bathroom facilities are a (Honey Pot) dropped on site shared by everyone on the job. No hand sanitizer
lucky if there is toilet paper 2 days before they come clean them. I worked on a job 2 years ago for a major global franchise, they pushed the half door honey pots into closets right off the elevators. There are troughs on the back of them so lots of misses, the stench
when you arrived at your floor!!! Executives were getting off in the same spots we did as the main elevators were not up and running
yet. I guarantee you nothing has changed.
renate
(13,776 posts)Honestly, with half the country losing their damn minds and partying and going around maskless anyway, how much personal responsibility is someone with a family to feed supposed to take on? If I were feeling sick in a low-mask area, and had to choose between becoming homeless and protecting a bunch of asshats who'd just get the virus from someone else anyway, I would really have to think about it.
(Totally different dilemma in a mask-wearing community, of course.)
Staying home to be safe can lead to losing one's job at worst and a loss of income at best. If McConnell would just allow a vote on a coronavirus relief package, people wouldn't have to choose between doing the right thing and going hungry or getting evicted.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)is complicit and an accomplice to many Americans dying. May he reap want he has sowed on the American people. Despicable POS.
I truly hate him.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)Mitch, on the other hand, is making proactive decisions the end result of which is 'fuck them.'.
I'm not convinced it will happen, but would love nothing more than for him to lose his majority position come january, and THEN get to find out via the independent prosecutor exactly how much of the dirty russian mob-state NRA money he KNEW was dirty.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I hear what you are saying.
DSandra
(999 posts)Nor can independent contractors and struggling small business owners
If the government is not paying infected people to stay home, its not serious about beating or dealing with The coronavirus.
stopdiggin
(11,242 posts)Not only what we typically do. Also what is forced and reinforced (financially, institutionally, bosses, managers, co-workers and family members) in the workplace -- and culturally.
and then OP summarizes with:
Nope. People doing what they've been conditioned to do since they were teenagers. And you haven't even bothered to mention all the workers that don't even have sick leave. Take a look at the system! We need a reset on what is expected of people!
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Books_Tea_Alone
(253 posts)The board of health has not "caught up" yet. All of the workers were exposed to the employee yet they are presently all at work. My brother is refusing to get tested, not quarantining, and is currently working in all capacities there (server, kitchen, host). This is why I will not dine out.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,250 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im retired so work wasnt an issue, but I couldnt even take a shower for a week.
Temp spiked daily to 104...never been that ill.
Hekate
(90,556 posts)Two weeks off work, and youre not even sick (yet)? And you want a paycheck from the boss or a handout from Uncle Sam? Dont be ridiculous. Oh, and by the way, the landlord wants his rent.
Its the American Way. And, it sucks badly.
When my kids had chickenpox, they did it sequentially, not both at once. If my mother had not bussed out to take care of them for me for two solid weeks, I would have lost my job, period. Rent, groceries, childcare everything depended on that job.
So yes, some of these people are no doubt Trumpers blinded by devotion to their orange god. But Id bet dollars to holes in donuts that the rest are trapped in the American System.