Michigan certified today. Georgia will certify tomorrow...

[brooklynite]

Pennsylvania will certify on Monday.

Arizona will certify a week from Monday.

Wisconsin will certify a week from Tuesday.

Feel free to panic until then...

[apcalc]

1. Thank you!!!

[Abnredleg]

2. I don't think MI certified today

Just that all the counties certified

[kansasobama]

9. Correct - Michigan has not certified yet

Counties have. Not the state.

[Demsrule86]

55. MI certifies Monday as does PA.

Georgia tomorrow and that puts Biden above 270.

[Nevilledog]

77. New tonight

Link to tweet

[Mme. Defarge]

3. It's why I drink.

🙀🍷🇺🇸

[Chainfire]

7. I need to take it up.

[Cha]

12. I haven't had alcohol in a long time.. going

through this stone cold sober.

[Volaris]

16. Lol wow that's ballsy...

[Cha]

18. lol.. it's hard!

But I run & take herbs to calm me down somewhat.

It's only our country, People, & Planet!

[BlueMTexpat]

51. I use Netflix!

It has helped to keep me halfway sane for the past four years!

I'm currently on an Asian series binge and highly recommend "The Empress Ki" (Korean, loosely based on historical events) and "The Rise of Phoenixes" (Chinese, loosely based on a novel of the same name).

They are LONG and full of lots of backstabbing and scheming - akin to today's Republican Party - but much more intelligently conceived. It is also fascinating to see how engrossing and romantic stories can be without people getting naked. I also love the subtitles where they call women "wenches" when they actually mean something much worse.

Handsome men, beautiful women, fantastic costumes and wigs!

Until recently, I was on a Turkish series binge, but I think that I've seen about everything they have and am hoping for some new ones to pop up.

My favorite Turkish series is "Black Money Love," which is one of the LONGEST series I have ever watched. I adore the main couple (Omer and Elif), but the sub-couples are fun too. The main villain is one of the most dastardly noir villains I have ever seen.

One new Turkish - only eight episodes called "Ethos" - has recently been acquired. I've only seen the first two episodes so far, but it is very well done.

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Sorry - didn't mean to go on for so long. But if I hadn't had these to keep me going for the past fours years, and especially since March of this year, I would be absolutely bonkers!

[Cha]

53. Oh yeah.. I do Netflix & Amazon Prime Vid..

I bet more than anyone on the Planet. lol

I binge watch everything I'm interested in.. marathon binge watching for 4 years!

Thank Goodness they keep coming up with new Vids.

& when I said it's hard.. I meant what we're going through is hard.. not giving up alcohol anymore.. I don't even think about it.'

Glad you have shows you're really interested in.. I know how therapeutic that is!

[BlueMTexpat]

79. I also have a somewhat limited

version of Amazon Prime. It's not as complete for viewers outside the US - so far, anyway!

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For fun, though, I also have enjoyed re-reviewing some of the wonderful "Crash Course" YouTube videos by John Green that discuss World and US History. The segments are relatively short, geared towards MUCH younger viewers, occasionally a bit "hokey" and John literally speed-talks so I always use the "CC" function. But they contain a LOT of relevant information that too many Americans do not seem to know at all.

Here is one relevant example:

Here is the complete list of Crash Course videos. https://thecrashcourse.com/

They cover a lot of subjects and have other presenters as well. But John Green and his courses, which deal primarily with World and US History, along with some literature, are the ones I know best. I used to embed links to some videos into my PowerPoint university presentations when I was an Adjunct Professor, following my first "official" retirement in 2007. The students seemed to get a
kick out of them and they got some good discussions going.

You don't need to subscribe to view the videos.

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The internet has been a real life-saver during this time of pandemic ... and political insanity.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

64. I've just added some of those to my watch list.

I almost always have to give up on American series because after a while they just get stupid. Just how they get stupid varies by the series, but it makes me crazy. I think the underlying problem is that there's a pretty strict formula out there for these things, and no room for any deviation.

[TrishaJ]

46. Kudos to You!!

I certainly can't do it.

[Cha]

49. Thank you.. This that we're going

through is hard but I don't even think about drinking it anymore.

So that's good!

[634-5789]

61. It's been since..

....February 17, 1995 for me, shows the strength of the human spirit not to drink while that fat orange asshole is dug in at the Biden WH.

[Cha]

73. Good on ya.. since last

century!

Mine was in 2003.. I stopped on my own.. didn't mark a date.

I also had to go through losing my sister & best friend on Dec 26, 2019. That was and still is unbearable.. but we carry on.

[dware]

67. I would love to light up a joint,

but, unfortunately, I fall under USDOT jurisdiction, so I can't have any prohibited substances in my system and pot is still illegal under Fed. law.

[CaptainTruth]

23. My liver would not survive 4 more years of Trump.

[Mme. Defarge]

26. I was tempted to take up smoking

after the 2016 election catastrophe.

[Lonestarblue]

50. Mine either! My wine consumption has increased.

I thought we could all relax after learning that Biden had won, but no, the Idiot-in-Chief has to play games and drive everyone crazy.

[murielm99]

52. I think I will drink tonight.

I had some bad champagne when it was finally called for Biden. This calls for rum.

(I just want this to be OVER).

[jalan48]

4. Thanks!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. Thanks for the info, and for keeping your wits about you. It's not easy, these days. n/t

[scarletwoman]

29. Too bad some of that info is incorrect.

The state of Michigan has NOT certified its votes, and won't until the Board of State Canvassers meets on Monday, 11/23. Please see my post #25, below.

[Mike 03]

6. Kick and Rec

[True Blue American]

8. The 2 who wanted to change their vote were told it was too late

And the Trump Administration just withdrew their Federal lawsuit against Michigan. Per CNN.

[Cha]

20. Good to Know about the Fed Lawsuit

being withdrawn against Michigan.. TY TBA!

[Kaleva]

10. Wayne county has certified the election but the state of Mi hasn't yet.

Michigan probably won't certify till the 23rd.

[demmiblue]

19. I am expecting that the OP will correct his factually incorrect post.

Actually, no I'm not. Lol!

[calimary]

80. Awwwww... sweet little pig.

When pigs fly!

[True Blue American]

37. All the Counties

Have certified.

Trump invited Michigan Republicans to the WH. It is debatable whether they will go.

[Roland99]

11. Virginia did certify, though.

only mention it as trump campaign mentioned somehow going after that one, too

[lagomorph777]

15. Thank you! Happy to hear we did it.

[BootinUp]

13. Bye Don! Nt

[barbtries]

14. thanks for permission.

i'm not panicked. I am weary and still afraid. Why are republicans so fucking bad?

[johnnyfins]

17. This clown has invited republican lawmakers from michigan to the white house tomorrow

If I seem like I am jumping up and down and yelling RED ALERT. It's because I AM. The only reason to invite them is to get them to trash the whole Michigan vote and appoint their own slate of electors. This can happen whether the vote is certified or not. WTF!

[Sugarcoated]

21. They can't

Legally not possible

[True Blue American]

40. No because

All of the counties have certified.

[Kaleva]

22. The leaders of the Repubs in Mi have already said they can't do such a thing.

[johnnyfins]

27. No. They said the wouldn't. Not that they can't

I am not counting anything out. We are dealing with a mob boss mentality with this trash in the white house. Anything is possible.

[Sugarcoated]

28. You're panicking unnessesarily

Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

it's not legally possible for Republicans to choose a new slate of electors

[Kaleva]

45. No, they said they can't as it would be a violation of state law.

"In Michigan, legislative leaders say any intervention would be against state law. Even though the GOP-controlled legislature is investigating the election, state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey told radio station WJR on Friday, “It is not the expectation that our analysis will result in any change in the outcome.”"

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/14/gop-leaders-michigan-other-battleground-states-quash-electors-bid/6294340002/

[dware]

68. Quit spreading false information

they said they can't because it is against the law.

Hey, thanks for your concern anyways.

[Tommymac]

31. Sorry Johnny You are wrong to panic. That's not how Reality or the Law works.

But feel free to continue to panic. We'll watch.

[efhmc]

34. Do you think any of them might have the intergrity to not even go much less change their electors?

[efhmc]

66. In his speech today, PE Biden says it will be interesting to see who shows up.

[Skittles]

78. depends on how bad the kompromat is

yes indeed

[marylandblue]

41. Not time to panic yet. I don't think they will do it.

I guess they don't want to anger Trump by not going, but, I also don't think they want to open this huge can of worms for Trump. The fact that the two canvassers backed down yesterday means they don't have the stomach for tbe backlash. Also, they were all just re-elected. Now they will call their own legitimacy into question to save Trump? That seems like a bridge too far for any legislator.

[Historic NY]

59. TRump is interfereing with an election

[AmericanCanuck]

24. Some people's nature

In the middle of the Sahara desert during the summer, on top of the tallest sand dune, some people will always be afraid of frostbite and drowning.

[scarletwoman]

25. The state of Michigan doesn't certify until Monday, 11/23 when the Board of State Canvassers meets.

All MI counties have certified, but the state as a whole has not.

In view of the fact that GOP leaders of the MI legislature are meeting with trump at the White House tomorrow, I'm not so sure it's time to stop panicking yet:

Trump invites Michigan Republican leaders to meet him at White House as he escalates attempts to overturn election results

November 19, 2020
DETROIT — President Trump has invited the leaders of Michigan’s Republican-controlled state legislature to meet him in Washington on Friday, according to a person familiar with those plans, as the president and his allies continue an extraordinary campaign to overturn the results of an election he lost.
~snip~
Trump’s team appear to be increasingly focused on Michigan as a place where Republican officials — on the state’s Board of Canvassers and in the legislature — might be persuaded to overturn the results.
~snip~
Joanna Lydgate, the national director of the Voter Protection Program, said that “there is no basis in fact or law for failing to certify the election.”

“The president’s unpatriotic behavior is reaching new heights with summoning state legislative officials to the White House,” she said. “But the legislature has no role in certification, as its leaders have already publicly admitted. This raises serious legal and ethical concerns about the president’s conduct — but it will not alter the outcome of the election.”

(more at link)

[johnnyfins]

30. They have no role in certification, but

they can appoint a new slate of electors based on claims of fraud. Bullshit claims or not.

[scarletwoman]

32. No, the state certification comes from the Board of State Canvassers, which meets on Monday.

[Tommymac]

33. No, they can't.

[Kaleva]

47. No they can't and are on record as saying they can't.

[catbyte]

54. No, they can't. The legislature has nothing to do with seating electors in Michigan.

[Demsrule86]

62. No they can not do so when they have a certified election.

[Demsrule86]

63. They can't do so.

"A spokeswoman for Michigan’s Senate majority leader said that state law did not allow the Legislature to directly select electors or to award electors to anyone besides the winner of the popular vote. Mr. Biden won the state by nearly 150,000 votes."

[dware]

69. Why are you here spreading false info?

Interesting.

[hadEnuf]

39. I'm curious if charges can be brought against Trump for trying to influence the outcome of a legal

vote count in an election?

This has gone way past recounts and ludicrous accusations of vote fraud. Trump is openly trying to bribe and/or bully state legislative officials into altering the outcome of an election.

[scarletwoman]

42. The question is, who would bring such charges?

I honestly don't know - but certainly this is moving into the the territory of sedition.

[hadEnuf]

48. Good question. Republicans certainly are not going to do anything about it.

[LanternWaste]

35. Much as you feel free to believe simple concern and panic are equitable.

"Whatever gets you through the night..."

[LAS14]

36. It doesn't sound like Biden, at his presser, thinks Michigan is certified. nt

[scarletwoman]

43. That's because it is not. The OP is incorrect.

[Demsrule86]

56. The counties have certified...and the state will make it official on Monday.

[scarletwoman]

58. Which means it's not official until then.

[helpisontheway]

70. What did he say about Michigan? Is he concerned that it won't be certified? Nt

[LAS14]

71. Not much. More that he talked about stuff going on there... More what he didn't say. nt

[Karma13612]

38. Awesome!

Thanks for helping me manage my expectations and melt-downs!!

Always good to pace ourselves.

Not unlike eating too much too fast at a buffet!

[JaneQPublic]

44. As Joe would say...

[Heartstrings]

57. I'm not in panic mode.

Just exhausted from the never ending chaos!

[deurbano]

60. And the growing lack of acceptance from the other side.

There is a reason to panic that's not just about whether Biden will be sworn in, but at this dangerous (to democracy) situation where Republicans and their leaders will do and say anything, completely deny reality, and subscribe to the most outlandish conspiracies rather than grant any legitimacy to a Democratic victory.

[Heartstrings]

72. Ok, now you have me panicking!!

All I can say is, it’s going to be a very noisy and a very ugly next 2 months.

I just want him and his posse gone, they make my hair hurt!

[deurbano]

74. Sorry! My panic waxes and wanes, but I think we do have to take their actions (and inactions) as

serious threats. Of course, panicking probably doesn't help. (If i can avoid it!)

[Mister Ed]

65. Wariness is not panic. Vigilance is not panic. n/t

[Laelth]

75. What about NC?

They just started counting, afaik.



-Laelth

[ahoysrcsm]

76. Can I still fight and phone bank for the Democratic Party?

You know asking for a friend.