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Nevilledog

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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:05 PM Nov 2020

John Oliver: The way conservative are using segment on voting machines is horseshit.



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Hello to all our new viewers who've encountered our 2019 segment on voting machines through conservative media using it to push Trump's voter-fraud claims! First: sorry we swear so much! But second: the way people are using that segment is horseshit!
2:51 PM · Nov 19, 2020


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Hello to all our new viewers who've encountered our 2019 segment on voting machines through conservative media using it to push Trump's voter-fraud claims! First: sorry we swear so much! But second: the way people are using that segment is horseshit!

If you watch our segment through to the end, you'll notice that we say the biggest vulnerability is if a state uses direct-recording electronic voting machines, or DREs, especially those without a paper trail.

Good news! Of the states where the Trump campaign is contesting the election results – PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ and NV – only Nevada still uses DRE machines, and even those produce a paper trail.
On top of which, a huge proportion of votes this year came in on absentee ballots, which are... y'know... paper ballots.

In the story, we also suggest that a good failsafe is to perform a risk-limiting audit after an election is completed. GA is wrapping up its risk-limiting audit. PA, NV and MI are piloting risk-limiting audits this year. AZ and WI are performing more limited audits this year.

Would you like Wisconsin and Arizona to perform risk-limiting audits? Maybe their Republican-led state legislatures should get on that!

(Is now the time to point out that in 2019, the House passed the SAFE Act, which would've required every state to have risk-limiting audits in federal elections, but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote in the Senate? It sure seems like a good time to mention it.)

Finally, and most importantly: There is no evidence that any voting-machine fraud happened. In fact, some of the experts we consulted for our piece signed a letter regarding the Trump campaign's allegations. Would you like to read it? Here it is!
mattblaze.org/papers/electio…

If you didn't click through, here's the important part:
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And here's @PolitiFact's writeups of the Dominion Voting Systems and Hammer/Scorecard rumors that you may've seen -- both of which they rate "Pants on Fire". (Note: "Pants on Fire" is bad.)

politifact.com/factchecks/202…

PolitiFact - Debunking the ‘Hammer and Scorecard’ election fraud conspiracy theory
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/10/pamela-geller/debunking-hammer-and-scorecard-election-fraud-cons/

PolitiFact - No evidence Dominion Voting Systems caused widespread tabulation errors that flipped votes for Biden
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/13/facebook-posts/no-evidence-dominion-voting-systems-caused-widespr/

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John Oliver: The way conservative are using segment on voting machines is horseshit. (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
Why does it always say "no evidence of votes flipped to Biden"? judesedit Nov 2020 #1

judesedit

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1. Why does it always say "no evidence of votes flipped to Biden"?
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:16 PM
Nov 2020

Why don't they say "no evidence of votes flipped to either party". Seems kind of like there were votes flipped to the Hump, but they don't want to divulge the whole truth. I certainly do not doubt for a moment that is a very strong possibility.

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