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Initech

(100,038 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:20 PM Nov 2020

Edward Norton On Why Trump Won't Concede

Good Twitter thread worth reading:




Edward Norton
@EdwardNorton
I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..or that ‘chaos is what he loves’. The core of it is that he knows he’s in deep, multi-dimensional legal jeopardy & this defines his every action. We’re seeing 1) a tactical delay of the transition to buy time for coverup & evidence suppression 2) above all, a desperate endgame

...which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft bitch who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff.

Faith in the strength of our sacred institutions & founding principles is severely stretched...but they will hold. They will. He’s leaving, gracelessly & in infamy. But if we trade for it, give him some brokered settlement, we’ll be vulnerable to his return. We can’t flinch.
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Edward Norton On Why Trump Won't Concede (Original Post) Initech Nov 2020 OP
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
"whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft bitch" Rorey Nov 2020 #2
I like the poker analogy. Initech Nov 2020 #9
Yes, same here. Call His Bluff! yonder Nov 2020 #11
I wish someone would call his bluff. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #12
More like leftieNanner Nov 2020 #27
Ive always liked Ed Squidly Nov 2020 #3
I'll just add, the deal, if there is to be one Rorey Nov 2020 #4
And Trump is doing all this because HIS well being TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #5
How about all of the above? Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #6
Right on except... dutch777 Nov 2020 #7
The one difference between Trump and the Grinch... Initech Nov 2020 #10
The grinch MFM008 Nov 2020 #32
+10000000 onecaliberal Nov 2020 #8
Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #13
No Deal! Marcuse Nov 2020 #14
Oh, Lord ScratchCat Nov 2020 #15
Totally agree peggysue2 Nov 2020 #16
Je suis d'accord Stinky The Clown Nov 2020 #17
Initech....Thank you for this post.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #18
I had no idea his dad was a federal prosecutor. Initech Nov 2020 #19
Just give him everything he wants and put it in writing shelshaw Nov 2020 #20
All in... czarjak Nov 2020 #21
K&R ItsjustMe Nov 2020 #22
very well said. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #23
Herr Eisenheim was always one step ahead............n/t DFW Nov 2020 #24
bookmarking TomDaisy Nov 2020 #25
There's a shredder catching fire somewhere AwakeAtLast Nov 2020 #26
He's probably taking magnets to hard drives and laptops like he's claiming Hillary did. Initech Nov 2020 #29
LOL! AwakeAtLast Nov 2020 #33
I've been binging that show again. Initech Nov 2020 #34
Yes! K&R NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #28
I guess he brought his own poker knowledge to Rounders AdamGG Nov 2020 #30
Love it!! Barbara2423 Nov 2020 #31
Dang that's well written & spot on. nt mdelaguna Nov 2020 #35

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. "whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft bitch"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

Perfect description.

I agree. He's trying to play "Let's Make A Deal". The problem is that all three curtains have Zonks. He's screwed.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
9. I like the poker analogy.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:30 PM
Nov 2020

He's playing two pair against a straight flush. No way he wins that one.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
12. I wish someone would call his bluff.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:12 PM
Nov 2020

I just don't think he is that smart. He would be a lousy poker player.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
4. I'll just add, the deal, if there is to be one
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

If we, the United States of America, give him any kind of a deal, he better be giving us something YUGE in return. Big names. Big crimes.

And he still needs to go to prison.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,142 posts)
5. And Trump is doing all this because HIS well being
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

is more important than our country's. What he is doing is simply indefensible, and all his supporters in the White House and Congress will go down with him.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. How about all of the above?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

He does it because he is a mentally bent tool who likes to sow dissension and hurt people.
He does it for money because he is greedy.
He does it for the adoration.
He does it to keep the power.
He does it to keep himself out of prison.

He is usually incompetent but he is also a lucky sob
If this is the instance where he pulls off he ploy we are all fucked.
We are all fucked even if he leaves office, just not as bad. He has stirred up the RWNJs into a frenzy.

dutch777

(2,963 posts)
7. Right on except...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:29 PM
Nov 2020

I think disparaging the Grinch by comparison to something even more loathsome like Trump is unfair to the Grinch. I love "little 10 ply super soft bitch"...how spot on! Well said and thanks for sharing!

Initech

(100,038 posts)
10. The one difference between Trump and the Grinch...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:32 PM
Nov 2020

Is that the Grinch's heart grew three sizes when he saw the evils of what he was doing. Trump on the other hand, would have to have a heart in order for it to grow three sizes.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
15. Oh, Lord
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:20 PM
Nov 2020

Trump has no "leverage" here. He doesn't have to "concede" or "leave office". Good grief, why is it that so many intelligent people can't comprehend this? Trump doesn't have to "agree to stop being President".

The continued talk from this perspective is what is lending legitimacy to the entire notion that Trump has to agree to leave. This has gotten patently ridiculous. His term is over 01/20/20 per The Constitution. Joe Biden's will begin. There is nothing Donald Trump can do about this.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
16. Totally agree
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:21 PM
Nov 2020

You don't give deals to terrorists who continue to terrorize.

You take them down. You make them pay. Set the example with the Chaos King. Shut him down and let him stew in his self-inflicted desperation.

Never forget, never forgive.

Upthevibe

(8,012 posts)
18. Initech....Thank you for this post....
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:28 PM
Nov 2020

I LOVE Edward Norton. I think he's one of the best actors of our time.

This tweet is perfection.

shelshaw

(532 posts)
20. Just give him everything he wants and put it in writing
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

Then blatantly rescind it all after he leaves and fuck him in a way that only he could truly understand. After all, any agreement is only as good as his signature.

AdamGG

(1,286 posts)
30. I guess he brought his own poker knowledge to Rounders
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:22 PM
Nov 2020

though he's great in everything, whether he knows the topic to begin with or not.

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