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applegrove

(118,632 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:00 PM Nov 2020

Depressed Trump Breaks Down And Rants Election Conspiracies During Press Conference

BY JASON EASLEY

Depressed Trump Breaks Down And Rants Election Conspiracies During Press Conference

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/11/20/trump-election-conspiracies-press-conference.html

"SNIP.....

Trump was supposed to be announcing new rules on drug prices, but he claimed that Big Pharma and the media conspired against him in the election.


Trump said:

Big Pharma ran millions of dollars of negative advertisements against me during the campaign. Which I won, by the way. We will find that out. Almost 74 million votes. We had Big Pharma against us and the media and big tech against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us. Big Pharma alone ran millions of dollars of ads. I said who is it? I have never seen anything like it.

I told them I will have to do this. I was put here to do a job. Pfizer and others were way ahead on vaccines. You would not have a vaccine if were not for me for another 4 years. The FDA would have never been able to do what they did. What I forced them to do. Pfizer and others even decided to not assess the results of their vaccine, to not come out with a vaccine until just after the election. That’s because of what I did with favored nations and these other elements.


Trump’s comments match up with Rudy Giuliani’s conspiracies and reports that the President is obsessed with the Dominion voting machines conspiracy theory. It is not difficult to understand why Trump lost. He is the first president in the history of polling to never have a single day with a 50% approval rating from a credible non-partisan poll.

.....SNIP"

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Depressed Trump Breaks Down And Rants Election Conspiracies During Press Conference (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2020 OP
Self promotion thru lies is his only way of talking BSdetect Nov 2020 #1
I thought the virus was going to "disappear" without a vaccine. louis-t Nov 2020 #2
At this point I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #3
Or, in other words.... MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #8
Trump had a press conference, and I wasn't told? Now I'll never be able to tune it out in real time. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 #4
But he still didn't take questions from reporters. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #40
Baker Act time superpatriotman Nov 2020 #5
Pfizer and Moderna said tRump's Warp Speed was not a factor in development. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #6
If we had a "functioning" Congress...... MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #7
that isn't a congressional act..... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #10
Thanks! Wasn't sure who could initiate the action....... MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #12
Impeachment actually has a lower standard.... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #17
WHAT A STATEMENT!!!!! MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #23
Not Congress exboyfil Nov 2020 #11
Okay, I've hit the paranoid part. It starts at 0:00. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 #9
Everyone who is preventing the enactment of the 25th Amendment needs to be tried for sedition. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #13
You should read the sedition law first. onenote Nov 2020 #15
I have. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #20
what actions meet the "by force" requirement? onenote Nov 2020 #27
"Conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force" marie999 Nov 2020 #34
We might not have needed emergency vaccines if Trump hadn't been in office. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #14
Hey, little whiny asshole, don't let the door hit ya' MoonRiver Nov 2020 #16
"we had (fill in person or thing here) against us" - Yes, it's called an election. People loathe you PSPS Nov 2020 #18
IMHO: This made me think of the ending of Rocky Horror Picture Show lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #19
"You would not have a vaccine if were not for me for another 4 years" PatSeg Nov 2020 #21
You got THAT right!!!!! MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #24
It's irresponsible to continue to cover his press conferences or even reproduce them greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #22
Not even when couched in DU comments? applegrove Nov 2020 #26
Dolly Parton has done more to fight COVID than Trump's sorry ass. Elwood P Dowd Nov 2020 #25
These are the same people who attack us mercilessly for handing out "participation trophies" Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #28
Sarah Cooper, please do this one! ananda Nov 2020 #29
Yes. And in a straight jacket. Auggie Nov 2020 #36
What did tRump do? MacKasey Nov 2020 #30
Poor snowflake Benedict Donald. Pepsidog Nov 2020 #31
"Almost 74 million votes." Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #32
Pathetic WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2020 #33
Can anybody direct me to any of those ads to which the insane one refers?? niyad Nov 2020 #35
Dominion voting "fraud" palustris Nov 2020 #37
Just STFU Asshat Killer Clown. Go poop yourself. Tommymac Nov 2020 #38
Long past time to eliminate this shithead. warmfeet Nov 2020 #39
"You would not have a vaccine if were not for me." Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #41

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
2. I thought the virus was going to "disappear" without a vaccine.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:06 PM
Nov 2020

Now it's, he "forced" the drug companies to act? "You would not have a vaccine if were not for me for another 4 years" What the Hell does that mean?

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
3. At this point
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:07 PM
Nov 2020

To believe a single word out of this paranoid buffoon's pie hole ,you'd have to be paranoid ,stupid and narcissistic yourself.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
4. Trump had a press conference, and I wasn't told? Now I'll never be able to tune it out in real time.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:08 PM
Nov 2020

I'm guess I'm a glutton for punishment:

NOVEMBER 20, 2020
President Trump Remarks on Prescription Drug Prices
President Trump announced two new federal rules to reduce prescription drug prices for patients. The administration also announced that Pfizer applied with the FDA for emergency use authorization for it’s COVID-19 vaccine. Earlier in the week, the drug company announced that its research showed the two-dose vaccine is 95 percent effective in preventing illness.

getagrip_already

(14,741 posts)
10. that isn't a congressional act.....
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:16 PM
Nov 2020

It's a vp and then cabinet play. Congress only gets involved if the potus tries to claim power back.

Impeachment is the answer though. But we don't have a senate at the moment.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
12. Thanks! Wasn't sure who could initiate the action.......
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

but then again, really, isn't there SOMEBODY out there feeling the need to do so?

getagrip_already

(14,741 posts)
17. Impeachment actually has a lower standard....
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:26 PM
Nov 2020

Impeachment only requires a simple majority in the house, and a 2/3 vote in the senate to convict.

The 25th can only be initiated by the vp, and has to be approved by a majority of the cabinet. Then, if the potus objects and says he/she is fit, it takes a 2/3 vote in both the house and senate to prevent him/her from regaining power. Also, there doesn't seem to be a limit on how many times a potus can make that petition, potentially tying congress up for months.

Impeachment and conviction can also prevent an individual from ever serving in any role in the gov't again by a simple majority after conviction.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
23. WHAT A STATEMENT!!!!!
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020
"Impeachment actually has a lower standard...."

OMG! Can you imagine the amount of debate that would have occurred in Philadelphia if THAT was brought up to the "Founding Fathers?"

It is pretty frustrating to see what has transpired in the past 4 years and to realize that we CAN allow ourselves to drift SO CLOSE to an Imperial Monarchy - the very thing that the "Founding Fathers" were fighting against.

And even when we have rid ourselves of this present curse, I don't see the political will existing to correct the flaws in the current system. As I had seen somewhere else, "A smarter person than Trump would be our Dictator by now."

GAWD help us!

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
11. Not Congress
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:17 PM
Nov 2020

VP and the Cabinet. Congress then would have to sustain it by 2/3rds in each House.

What we need is a functioning Senate where enough GOP Senators join the Democratic Senators for impeachment.

The messaging should be that everything he is doing now is an extension of the impeachment which never received a fair hearing in the Senate. They knew what they had and they would have had time to recover as a party before the General Election (as a side benefit - maybe the Executive might have done their job better on Covid).

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
13. Everyone who is preventing the enactment of the 25th Amendment needs to be tried for sedition.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

This is well beyond fucking ridiculous.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
27. what actions meet the "by force" requirement?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 06:27 PM
Nov 2020

18 USC 2384

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
34. "Conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:03 PM
Nov 2020

Here and other places there is a comma before the "or". That means what is written before the comma is not included in "by force". Commas are very important. It is a comma in the 2nd Amendment that allows civilians to own guns.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
14. We might not have needed emergency vaccines if Trump hadn't been in office.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:21 PM
Nov 2020

We might be like South Korea, or New Zealand if we had a competent President like Hillary Clinton. You don't think Clinton would have jumped on it and try to actually shut down the spread of the pandemic.

Hillary would not be a panacea, and we would likely have been hit hard anyway, but We would not be on track to losing 300,000 Americans in less than a year from COVID-19. Plus, Hillary would also have prompted vaccine makers to expedite the process, and would likely have had the CDC and FDA highly coordinated with the efforts instead of changing guidelines for political reasons.

The man is truly an idiot.

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
18. "we had (fill in person or thing here) against us" - Yes, it's called an election. People loathe you
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:27 PM
Nov 2020

and they always have ever since your Queens days. You will never get over that. You would never have seen the inside of the oval office if it weren't for russia's interference in our democracy.

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
19. IMHO: This made me think of the ending of Rocky Horror Picture Show
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Nov 2020

When Frankenfurter gets in the pool for the big finish, his boa wet, his makeup melting.....crying, but milking the crowd for a big close-up, dramatic finish....

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
21. "You would not have a vaccine if were not for me for another 4 years"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:31 PM
Nov 2020

What a load of crap. If it wasn't for you, Donald, we wouldn't have a quarter of a million dead Americans.

Quit fucking taking credit for things you didn't do and start taking responsibility for all that you haven't done. I would call you a totally worthless human being, but sadly you are far worse than worthless. So many lives have been ruined because of you. Go away alredy.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
25. Dolly Parton has done more to fight COVID than Trump's sorry ass.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:41 PM
Nov 2020

Did Trump ever contribute one penny for research?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
28. These are the same people who attack us mercilessly for handing out "participation trophies"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 06:40 PM
Nov 2020

To our kids for sporting events, etc.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
32. "Almost 74 million votes."
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:00 PM
Nov 2020

The problem for l'il donnie, however, is that Joe had 79,716,365, or "almost 80 million votes".

Funny how that works out to a Biden win...

palustris

(53 posts)
37. Dominion voting "fraud"
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

Hasn't the Georgia hand recount completely destroyed Powell's argument?

If votes had been switched, the recount would have revealed it. I am not American (I am Finn living in Finland) and unfamiliar of your practices so bear with me.

In Georgia and elsewhere, don't the voting machines create paper copy of the vote?

And this paper ballot is then checked by voter and scanned? And if there were errors or votes switched, wouldn't the hand recount immediately revealed them when scanners and machines weren't used?

And Powell's argument was that "millions" of votes had been changed by George Soros and Venezuelan communists.

If this had happened, then the Georgia hand recount of these voter checked paper ballots would have revealed the discrepancies, right? And since there was no change in tally from the original result, isn't it the only possibility that this theory of votes switched is completely bonkers?

How is it possible this theory is still being presented by Trump supporters when it isn't even theoretically possible. Am I missing something or have people gone completely mad?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
38. Just STFU Asshat Killer Clown. Go poop yourself.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:27 PM
Nov 2020

Why is anyone even covering these shitshows?


Once he goes off the rails the reporters and camera folks need to get up and walk out en masse. hat would be in the first 30 seconds every time.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
39. Long past time to eliminate this shithead.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:30 PM
Nov 2020

Are we legally allowed to defend ourselves from this threat?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
41. "You would not have a vaccine if were not for me."
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:15 PM
Nov 2020

Says President Know Nothing. Who listens to this idiot constantly blowing his own horn and doesn't think what a fcking blowhard loser?! He is everything decent people teach their children not to be.

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