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Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:10 PM

So. He golfs, he tweets, he skips the pandemic session at G-8. Checked out except for ranting about

non-existent fraud and giving us all a tiny, orange middle finger as he pouts and stews. Why in the world do we have to be at his mercy in terms of the power he retains, for another two months? Why can't Congress invoke the 25th amendment? It would easily pass the House and I suspect the Senate as well at this point. It is so PAINFULLY obvious that the petulant man-child is not stable or up to anything resembling the office he has pretended to hold for the last four years.

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Reply So. He golfs, he tweets, he skips the pandemic session at G-8. Checked out except for ranting about (Original post)
Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 OP
exboyfil Nov 2020 #1
livetohike Nov 2020 #3
Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #6
Shermann Nov 2020 #2
Blue Owl Nov 2020 #4
dutch777 Nov 2020 #5
Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #7
JI7 Nov 2020 #8
Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #11
brooklynite Nov 2020 #9
Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #10

Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:13 PM

1. VP and half the Cabinet for the 25th Amendment

Pence is running around and supporting Trump's conspiracy theory so I don't see it happening.

Without GOP Senators are board, no point in starting impeachment. The GOP Senators own it.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:24 PM

3. They clearly don't care about our country. This should end any

chance of Pence running for anything in the future. Coward.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:35 PM

6. I still can't believe Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey won by big margins. Vile, both.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:16 PM

2. Main Agenda - Golf Again nt

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:25 PM

4. Go fuck yourself Donny you fat piece of shit

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:34 PM

5. Clearly Constitutional remedies are inadequate

As others stated. the 25th Amendment remedy is not in the hands of the House. And while impeachment on the House side is possible, it would be symbolic at best, although if you can't make a case of malfeasance and dereliction of duty for the President in this situation, one never will. Problem as always is the time it takes to execute an Impeachment and the standing of the Senate as largely Trump owned.

The writers of the Constitution just had no way of seeing that someone so unfit for office could 1) be popularly elected (although I think the hope for the Electoral College concept was that if the voters did make that error, the Electoral College would bring sense to the situation and overrule the popular vote in the greater interests of the Nation. We have resoundingly proven that hope unfounded in reality.) and 2) that person could so wholesale control the Administration establishment through his/her appointees that the 25th Amendment option is rendered effectively impotent.

I truly wish the Dems had gained better control of the House and taken the Senate in the election along with the Biden win so that these now obvious failings of the Constitution might of been addressed. Even if they had, we should remember that ratification of amendments to the Constitution, like eliminating the Electoral College, would not only take Congressional action supported by the President but ratification by the States. Given the number of red states and the timing to get that done, remedy by even the next Presidential election in 2024 I think would be doubtful.

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Response to dutch777 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:39 PM

7. very good comments

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:11 PM

8. Do you know who Mitch McConnell is ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:21 PM

11. As well as anyone does. I read his bio. Most don't probably. "He has no soul". Jon Stewart

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:13 PM

9. Not G-8; G-20.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:19 PM

10. Sorry. He doesn't pay attention to ANY of it. That's like sub-human.

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