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Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:07 PM

Wondering here: Is there any serious way to investigate Florida and Texas, Kentucky and OTHER

Southern states with their voting SUPPRESSION? Also any other ways they RIGGED the election process in their states? Before 2022 or 2024. What could be done?

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Reply Wondering here: Is there any serious way to investigate Florida and Texas, Kentucky and OTHER (Original post)
bluestarone Nov 2020 OP
PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #1
bluestarone Nov 2020 #2
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #3
bluestarone Nov 2020 #6
TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #7
lpbk2713 Nov 2020 #8
jimfields33 Nov 2020 #9
bluestarone Nov 2020 #10
jimfields33 Nov 2020 #11
bluestarone Nov 2020 #12
jimfields33 Nov 2020 #15
bluestarone Nov 2020 #16
NCDem47 Nov 2020 #13
KPN Nov 2020 #4
safeinOhio Nov 2020 #5
Lucinda Nov 2020 #14

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:16 PM

1. With the current Supreme Court composition and...

the Supreme Court decisions

Shelby County v. Holder (2013) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder )

and

Abbott v. Perez (2018) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_v._Perez )

prospects are not promising although a Biden appointed Attorney General could certainly make an effort.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:20 PM

2. I hope so!

The deal with the DEJOY post office MIGHT be a reason to begin?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:25 PM

3. Texas has a big gerrymandering problem

but I saw no particular evidence of voter suppression. Clinton lost Texas by 9 points in 2016 and 8.5 million votes. Biden lost by 5.5 points and ELEVEN MILLION voted. Texas will be a swing state in 2024.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:33 PM

6. Personally i will NEVER trust Florida EVER EVER until

It's fully investigated!! (by a Democratic investigation) It's been rigged for years and years in my mind! I was kinda hoping that the Dejoy bullshit would open the door to a FULL INVESTIGATION!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:53 PM

7. From what I saw in the Houston area

people just didn't trust mail in voting and voted early in person instead. I believe we had less than 10% voting by mail.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:57 PM

8. Likewise.



I won't trust anything they say until there is a Democratic majority in all three branches
of state government. And I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:57 PM

9. I think the GOP would be overjoyed to hear the Democratic Party call election irregularities

I donít think giving them support is a good thing.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:00 PM

10. You do realize this is AFTER Jan 20th right?

Florida needs to be investigated!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:02 PM

11. I change the he word to irregularities. But that's fine after.

I doubt repugs will be happy after January either. I think Florida is being investigated at least in the two counties with the independent running.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:04 PM

12. ...

Hopefully before 2022 or 24!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:08 PM

15. Especially 2022. We have governor and a senate seat to win.

DeSantis and Rubio need to retire from politics.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:09 PM

16. Then by 2022 FOR SURE!!

GET THEM OUT!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:06 PM

13. Trump won by almost 400,000 votes this year in Florida?!?

That reeks.

That really, really reeks.

Although, I do believe Fla is pulling away as a deep red state. Leave the confines of the big four metro areas (SE Fla., Tampa Bay, Orlando, JAX) and two university towns (Gainesville, Tallahassee) and it becomes Freeperville - FAST. The veneer is very thin in Florida.

Born and rasied there. Left in 2016. Even then, the Florida Legislature was a cesspool of Republican cravenness.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:28 PM

4. It seems a prudent thing for the D party to at least pursue some form of audit of the elections in

those States. Not sure it is doable to any meaningful extent absent a full investigation, however. I suspect there will need to be some clear evidence of unlawful activity for that to happen. Is there?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:31 PM

5. No taxation without representation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

"No taxation without representation" is a political slogan that originated in the American Revolution, and which expressed one of the primary grievances of the American colonists against Great Britain. In short, many colonists believed that as they were not represented in the distant British parliament, any taxes it imposed on the colonists (such as the Stamp Act and the Townshend Acts) were unconstitutional, and were a denial of the colonists' rights as Englishmen.

The firm belief that the government should not tax a populace unless that populace is represented in some manner in the government developed in the English Civil War, following the refusal of parliamentarian John Hampden to pay ship money tax.[1] In the context of British taxation of its American colonies, the slogan "No taxation without representation" appeared for the first time in a headline of a February 1768 London Magazine printing of Lord Camden's "Speech on the Declaratory Bill of the Sovereignty of Great Britain over the Colonies," which was given in parliament.[2]

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:07 PM

14. I think there is room to investigate. Especially the states like FL where ballots were held and

they didn't respond to the courts sweep orders (as far as I know)

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