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bluestarone

(16,722 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:07 PM Nov 2020

Wondering here: Is there any serious way to investigate Florida and Texas, Kentucky and OTHER

Southern states with their voting SUPPRESSION? Also any other ways they RIGGED the election process in their states? Before 2022 or 2024. What could be done?

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Wondering here: Is there any serious way to investigate Florida and Texas, Kentucky and OTHER (Original Post) bluestarone Nov 2020 OP
With the current Supreme Court composition and... PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #1
I hope so! bluestarone Nov 2020 #2
Texas has a big gerrymandering problem TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #3
Personally i will NEVER trust Florida EVER EVER until bluestarone Nov 2020 #6
From what I saw in the Houston area TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #7
Likewise. lpbk2713 Nov 2020 #8
I think the GOP would be overjoyed to hear the Democratic Party call election irregularities jimfields33 Nov 2020 #9
You do realize this is AFTER Jan 20th right? bluestarone Nov 2020 #10
I change the he word to irregularities. But that's fine after. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #11
... bluestarone Nov 2020 #12
Especially 2022. We have governor and a senate seat to win. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #15
Then by 2022 FOR SURE!! bluestarone Nov 2020 #16
Trump won by almost 400,000 votes this year in Florida?!? NCDem47 Nov 2020 #13
It seems a prudent thing for the D party to at least pursue some form of audit of the elections in KPN Nov 2020 #4
No taxation without representation safeinOhio Nov 2020 #5
I think there is room to investigate. Especially the states like FL where ballots were held and Lucinda Nov 2020 #14

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. With the current Supreme Court composition and...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

the Supreme Court decisions

Shelby County v. Holder (2013) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder )

and

Abbott v. Perez (2018) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_v._Perez )

prospects are not promising although a Biden appointed Attorney General could certainly make an effort.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,044 posts)
3. Texas has a big gerrymandering problem
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

but I saw no particular evidence of voter suppression. Clinton lost Texas by 9 points in 2016 and 8.5 million votes. Biden lost by 5.5 points and ELEVEN MILLION voted. Texas will be a swing state in 2024.

bluestarone

(16,722 posts)
6. Personally i will NEVER trust Florida EVER EVER until
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:33 PM
Nov 2020

It's fully investigated!! (by a Democratic investigation) It's been rigged for years and years in my mind! I was kinda hoping that the Dejoy bullshit would open the door to a FULL INVESTIGATION!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,044 posts)
7. From what I saw in the Houston area
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

people just didn't trust mail in voting and voted early in person instead. I believe we had less than 10% voting by mail.

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
8. Likewise.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020


I won't trust anything they say until there is a Democratic majority in all three branches
of state government. And I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

jimfields33

(15,474 posts)
9. I think the GOP would be overjoyed to hear the Democratic Party call election irregularities
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

I don’t think giving them support is a good thing.

jimfields33

(15,474 posts)
11. I change the he word to irregularities. But that's fine after.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:02 PM
Nov 2020

I doubt repugs will be happy after January either. I think Florida is being investigated at least in the two counties with the independent running.

jimfields33

(15,474 posts)
15. Especially 2022. We have governor and a senate seat to win.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

DeSantis and Rubio need to retire from politics.

NCDem47

(2,238 posts)
13. Trump won by almost 400,000 votes this year in Florida?!?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

That reeks.

That really, really reeks.

Although, I do believe Fla is pulling away as a deep red state. Leave the confines of the big four metro areas (SE Fla., Tampa Bay, Orlando, JAX) and two university towns (Gainesville, Tallahassee) and it becomes Freeperville - FAST. The veneer is very thin in Florida.

Born and rasied there. Left in 2016. Even then, the Florida Legislature was a cesspool of Republican cravenness.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
4. It seems a prudent thing for the D party to at least pursue some form of audit of the elections in
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

those States. Not sure it is doable to any meaningful extent absent a full investigation, however. I suspect there will need to be some clear evidence of unlawful activity for that to happen. Is there?

safeinOhio

(32,532 posts)
5. No taxation without representation
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

"No taxation without representation" is a political slogan that originated in the American Revolution, and which expressed one of the primary grievances of the American colonists against Great Britain. In short, many colonists believed that as they were not represented in the distant British parliament, any taxes it imposed on the colonists (such as the Stamp Act and the Townshend Acts) were unconstitutional, and were a denial of the colonists' rights as Englishmen.

The firm belief that the government should not tax a populace unless that populace is represented in some manner in the government developed in the English Civil War, following the refusal of parliamentarian John Hampden to pay ship money tax.[1] In the context of British taxation of its American colonies, the slogan "No taxation without representation" appeared for the first time in a headline of a February 1768 London Magazine printing of Lord Camden's "Speech on the Declaratory Bill of the Sovereignty of Great Britain over the Colonies," which was given in parliament.[2]

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
14. I think there is room to investigate. Especially the states like FL where ballots were held and
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:07 PM
Nov 2020

they didn't respond to the courts sweep orders (as far as I know)

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