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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:30 PM Nov 2020

Sometimes You Win; Sometimes You Lose

Most people understand that, and try to be gracious when they lose. They congratulate the winner, lick their wounds, and go on with their lives. In politics, winning and losing are commonplace things. If you are in politics, you will eventually lose. There's no way around that.

There are some, though, like Donald J. Trump, who feel as though they are owed their high positions. They cannot believe it when they lose, and make up all sorts of lies to explain their loss, since they will not and cannot believe that they could have lost.

Such people rail at the "unfairness" of their loss. They say they were robbed of what was due them. Such people are sore, angry losers. Once we see that, we know that they never should have won in the first place. They did not deserve the high position they later lost.

Ungracious people live and die unhappy. They cannot see beyond themselves and their precious egos.

Donald J. Trump has only a few years left of his life. They will be miserable years of complaints and anger. His end is because of his beginnings, though. It is because he is the petty narcissist he allowed himself to be. He will learn the lesson, at some point, perhaps on his deathbed. However, he will not be able to go back and correct things, nor will he be able to change the miserable egotist he has always been.

That is his fate.

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Sometimes You Win; Sometimes You Lose (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2020 OP
Awakening? Squeaky41 Nov 2020 #1
I don't know. MineralMan Nov 2020 #2
He's always angry except when he's around dictators turtleblossom Nov 2020 #5
if he is lucky melania will leave him, relieving him of 130 pounds or so of soul-less dead weight nt msongs Nov 2020 #3
And sometimes the blues just get a hold of you liberaltrucker Nov 2020 #4
I Was Headed There, Too! The Roux Comes First Nov 2020 #9
Trump has several problems (more than several, actually; he's a big blubbery lump of problems). The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #6
I LOVE to read your posts, Min........ MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #7
Trump's life has been full of negativity PJMcK Nov 2020 #8
Good time Donnie's got the blues. 11 Bravo Nov 2020 #10
I don't think Trump's capable of learning that lesson kurtcagle Nov 2020 #11

turtleblossom

(504 posts)
5. He's always angry except when he's around dictators
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:42 PM
Nov 2020

And the GOP are always angry too even having with having power in all three branches of the government.
They're never satisfied.

The Roux Comes First

(1,297 posts)
9. I Was Headed There, Too!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:23 PM
Nov 2020

Always loved the story from Carole King bio of how her fundraising led her to temporarily change the lyrics to "Sometimes you win, sometimes you win"!

There's a lot to be said for being flexible.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,614 posts)
6. Trump has several problems (more than several, actually; he's a big blubbery lump of problems).
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:44 PM
Nov 2020

First, he's never before held or run for any political office. Elections are always a zero-sum game (unless you have a parliamentary system), and having won once, he never again thought about the possibility of losing. More importantly, he's a narcissist who, even when he's "lost" a deal or a business situation in the past (e.g., multiple bankruptcies), he never actually lost because he either got bailed out by his father, his father's estate, Russians, or banks that were inexplicably willing to lend him money. In some cases he simply cheated or stole his way out of a problem. He has never accepted or internalized the fact of really losing, that is, that something has been permanently and irrevocably taken from him. He can't accept it and he's freaking out. He will always be miserable and he deserves it.

MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
7. I LOVE to read your posts, Min........
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:44 PM
Nov 2020

but I've never had such a strong objection to anything you've ever said until now: "He will learn the lesson,......"

Ain't no way, EVER!!!!!!!

But still, have a great Thanksgiving with your "carry-out" and here's hoping next year we can all do it OUR WAY!!!!!!

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
8. Trump's life has been full of negativity
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:06 PM
Nov 2020

As a New Yorker for more than 4 decades, I've watched Trump since the 1970s.

He has always been the same:

Angry
Jealous
Petty
Egoistic
Selfish
Stupid
Obnoxious

The list could go on.

In short, Trump is a disgusting, miserable human being. I will never understand how anyone could look at him admiringly.

I must disagree with you, MineralMan. On his deathbed, Trump will never have the epiphany you suggested. I'm fine with that.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
11. I don't think Trump's capable of learning that lesson
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:29 PM
Nov 2020

He's 74 years old, has never really had to live with the consequences of his own actions, is a malignant narcissist, psychopath, and has a vindictive, sadistic streak. He has also evinced a certain degree of cognitive decline just over the last four years. These are generally not the kind of people that have massive epiphanies. His current last-ditch strategy comes down to the mistaken belief that politicians are willing to sacrifice their careers to support him in his fight. Yet the last four years have proven, over and over again, that not only does the Trump mystique not pass on to other politicians but that once you've sold your soul to him, he will be as likely to attack you as support you. In other words, even in defeat, it is still all and only about him. No, he won't change.

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