Amy Coney Barrett just got a lot of people killed

[brettdale]

Link to tweet

[Nevilledog]

1. First vote was for execution and then this...I'm sending she not as pro-life as she claims.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

31. None of them are. They're pro birth

[SunSeeker]

50. They're pro forced birth. nt

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

103. Giving credit where due, they're also

pro-Birther.

[Beakybird]

2. So horrible!

[brettdale]

3. At least Roberts

Seems to be trying to do the right thing.

[Initech]

4. Well guess we can throw those "pro life" claims out the window!

[Blue Owl]

5. To hell in a handmaid's basket

[dchill]

8. So to speak.

[Eid Ma Clack Shaw]

6. Cuomo should just ignore this entirely

I know he might get a strongly worded letter from Amy Kareny Barrett, but when you’re trying to save millions of lives, adhering precisely to the rulings of a partisan “court” should not be the first thing on your agenda.

Either that or maybe issue a mandate insisting that anyone present at a heavily attended religious event (and their entire household) has to self isolate at home for a couple of weeks afterwards. No work, no shopping etc. Tell them to order online or offer them food parcels if necessary.

[roamer65]

21. Yes. Nullification is the correct route.

Her hyper religious nature along with Alito’s are conflicts of interest.

[radius777]

24. Agree, Cuomo has shown he doesn't give shit what RW

covidiots like Barrett think - and wil find another way around this.

He's the elected governor of a state, while (as Roberts himself said) judges are unelected interpreters of the law.

[NJCher]

29. 2nd paragraph

That’s it.

[UTUSN]

7. And she's *off*! ---am never doing the 3 initial or 3 name thing, just BARRETT.

[Retrograde]

13. Goody Barrett, as someone on DU called her (n/t)

[bdamomma]

101. I call

her Amy Phoney Barrett!

[Volaris]

41. The Handmaid should suffice...

[Celerity]

60. +1000

[SunSeeker]

9. Fucking disgusting. We must balance the Court.

[dalton99a]

14. +1

[Solly Mack]

10. No one has the religious freedom to harm others.

Pretending that harming others is part of religious freedom is why so many children have been/continue to be raped and/or molested by elders/priests/assorted positions of authority within a religious institution.

It's why some think they can go after people who are LGBTQA - discriminating against them, assaulting them, murdering them, raping them.

It's why some think their racism is OK because of some scripture they've decided means it's OK to harm others because of their skin hue.

It's a big why behind misogyny - because their religion says it's OK to harm women.

And so on, and so forth.

If religious freedom means you can harm others then there is something wrong with your religion and something wrong with a law that enables you to harm others.

[RockCreek]

36. +1000 n/t

[Dem2theMax]

12. Insane. Absolutely insane ruling.

Amy Covid Barrett. I hope that name sticks forever.

[Mr. Evil]

18. It does have an apropos death knell ring to it.

[Efilroft Sul]

15. Thus spake Amy Covid Barrett

[MustLoveBeagles]

16. So the fundy wackadoodles have been given permission to kill us?

[Volaris]

43. Stay out of churches; they'll just kill each other.

[Mariana]

51. Churches are pestholes.

Hundreds of cases in dozens of towns in my area have been traced back to one Pentecostal church that was meeting for services and activities with no distancing or masks.

[Bettie]

85. Also stay away from people who insist on going to services in

the middle of a pandemic.

Generally speaking, I find my mental health is better if I mostly hang with atheists and people who don't think religion is a bludgeon.

[NNadir]

17. Of course she did. She's just getting started as a "right to life" crazy assed liar.

She doesn't even know what a human being is, the ignoramus.

Not a shred of decency or humanity in her.

She'll be killing people long after both McConnel and Trump are dead.

[Kablooie]

19. The soul destroying crazification of America has started.

It truly will be Trumps legacy.
Making America a permanently more dangerous and unequal country with religious and cult law overriding common sense and justice.

[Rice4VP]

20. Not really. People don't have to go if they don't

want to. If they get sick, then they only have themselves to blame

[not fooled]

22. What about the health care workers who will have to take care of the willfully ignorant

after they get infected choosing to go to their god parties?

No one gave the health care workers a choice.

[Rice4VP]

25. The healthcare workers have been taking care of

people all along. It’s not like they decide who to treat based on how that person might have gotten sick. I doubt that it makes a difference to them.

[NanceGreggs]

33. It has nothing to do with ...

... healthcare workers 'deciding who to treat'. It's a matter of there being more patients to be treated by staffers who are already overworked, and hospital resources that are already stretched to the breaking point.

What 'makes a difference to them' is watching more people die needlessly.

I'm amazed that you couldn't figure that out for yourself.

[Rice4VP]

38. Look, whatever. There is nothing to figure out

You’re mad because SCOTUS said they can’t limit religious services. Ok..fine

No one is being forced to go to church. This virus has been around for 9-10 months. People know the risk. Biden goes to church IN PERSON every Sunday. Do you think that he wants some governor telling him that he can’t go?

Church is optional, no one is forced to go. There are ways for people to do things safely and church is considered religious freedom and is actually covered in the constitution. Besides that, the positivity rate in NY is maybe 3%. In some states it’s 20%. NY has through the hell already

[NanceGreggs]

46. I am mad because this ruling ...

... is putting religious worship ahead of the public's health.

Yes, attending church services is optional for the attendee - but it's not optional for those exposed to a deadly disease by someone who chose to attend. It's going to happen - and people are going to sicken and die as a result, through no fault or choice of their own.

As any real Christian can tell you, God does not exist in a building - He is everywhere, and one worships within the heart, not from a physical space. Ergo, there is no reason why church attendance is necessary - especially when that attendance puts others at risk.

Being thy brother's keeper means exactly that. It's astounding that so many alleged Christians can't seem to grasp that simple concept.

[Rice4VP]

53. Unfortunately public health is not specifically

a constitutional amendment. The governors need to pick their battles. Several religious leaders have gotten COVID and died. If that didn’t wake the congregation up, nothing will. In NYC the culprits are the Orthodox Jews. They seem to support Trump and don’t care if they spread the virus. If nothing else, they tend to live amongst themselves so all they are doing is getting each other sick. NYC is very segregated...I grew up there and it’s quite fascinating how sectioned off the city is.

[NanceGreggs]

54. Sometimes common sense ...

... should outweigh all else. The Constitution also doesn't say one should evacuate before a hurricane hits - but sane people do it anyway. This is one of those times.

So the Jews are the 'culprits'?

How very telling ...

[CharleyDog]

56. Nurses everywhere are begging people to follow CDC guidelines

Nurses/doctors are reaching their breaking point. The SC ruling now gives the green light for
mass groups to sing (spewing virus), congregate and spread the virus.

The massive evangelical church in Korea spread the virus where it had been under control. When they discovered what had happened they shut that down.

It is wrong for the self-righteous to gather in large groups and then go out and spread the virus in the cities.

But we already know these religious types don't care about others because they think they are so so special.

A. Covid Barrett is truly her name now.

People, lawmakers, who have responsibility/control our lives should be made to spend a week in the hospitals, learning how people are suffering, dying, and the horrible stress to nurses and doctors, starting with El Paso.

[still_one]

57. Common sense should, but it won't. The fact is this injunction is brought by certain Catholic and

Jewish sects, which are the most orthodox.

I am also sure certain evangelical groups are happy with this ruling

Ruling or no ruling, it is very difficult to legislate anti-science stupidity

[NanceGreggs]

59. As I've said before ...

If we could eliminate stupidity, it would be the end of the Republican party.

No one would be stupid enough to run as one, and no one would be stupid enough to vote for one.

[still_one]

62. lol. So very true

[Rice4VP]

71. Yes, in this specific case, it was Orthodox Jews who

brought the case...it says so in the article. The Catholic Church also joined in.

But for several months it has been the Orthodox Jews in NYC who have been holding these large events and it resulted in their schools getting closed. Even at the height of the pandemic in NYC I remember that thousands of them were gathered in the street for a funeral..

About a month ago they were protesting in the streets and burning their masks and waving Trump flags...it was bizarre.

[NanceGreggs]

73. Keep diggin'. n/t

[Rice4VP]

75. What are you talking about?

[Shermann]

67. Your "optional" argument isn't valid

Going to packed bars is optional. Going to concerts is optional. What difference does that make?

[Rice4VP]

79. The state can most likely regulate bars and concerts but

religious gatherings are covered under the constitution. Do I think people should be able to pack into a church? No. But they have the constitution on their side

It’s just like how they couldn’t prevent maskholes from voting in person. The right to vote is in the constitution. All this other stuff like bars and restaurants and ball games aren’t so it’s easier to regulate. Same goes for school...not in the constitution so school boards can run it however they want

[Shermann]

81. The courts have rules again and again that religious freedoms don't get you above the law

That legal precedent is clear.

So I guess people will be able to wear burkas for their driver license photos again?

You can't simply assert that it is "covered under the constitution". It isn't.

[smirkymonkey]

89. They should survey all patients upon checking in to the hospital.

If it turns out that they willfully exposed themselves to a high-risk situation such as attending church services with out wearing masks or social distancing, they should refuse admittance.

Healthcare workers should not have to risk their lives treating these selfish, ignorant people and hospital beds should not be given up to them when there are other patients who are more deserving due to the fact that they took precautions.

[EX500rider]

91. I don't think the Hippocratic Oath has a exemption for stupidity. nt

[smirkymonkey]

95. No, unfortunately not.

Maybe it should, though.

[Flaleftist]

23. It's not just about them. It's also about the people they infect.

[Rice4VP]

26. Yeah, most likely their own family members. If they think

cramming into church for an hour is worth it..shrug. They’ll have to live (or die) with this decision. Most people aren’t cozying up to strangers these days

[still_one]

58. It is called the Darwin Awards

[NurseJackie]

65. It will be a shame that the children of the willful spreaders could die...

... or that they'll be without parents. But that's a lesson they'll carry with them. Maybe they won't turn out to be as selfish as their parents were.

[StarfishSaver]

74. That would make sense if they only went to church and then straight home and stayed there alone

But they go to their super spreader churches and then go home and share their air with other people and then they all go out and walk, work, shop and live amongst the rest of us.

[mdelaguna]

88. This.

[Liberty Belle]

27. We need a massive protest surrounding the Supreme Court

objecting to Amy Covid Barrett's actions and the others who joined her in this. Carry coffins out front, hold mock funerals, every single day until this is undone somehow.

[StarfishSaver]

76. How is that going to undo anything?

The time to "protest" - aka voting - was in 2010, 2014, and 2016 when too many of Democrats decided the federal courts didn't outweigh their need to teach Obama a lesson because he wasn't aggressive enough for them or to not vote for Hillary because something they didn't like about her.

Marching on the Supreme Court now isn't going to change a thing about the Court's current make up or how any of its members think or vote.

If people want to protest, they need to fight like hell to get Warnock and Ossoff elected in Georgia so that Biden can start filling federal court seats with decent judges and so that, if there's an opening on the Supreme Court, his choice doesn't get blocked by Mitch McConnell.

And then we need to get ready to fight to elect more Democrats in the 2022 - and not treat the mid-terms like a weapon to use against Biden because we don't think he changed the world in two years.

[halobeam]

90. I think that is an Excellent idea! All eyes, ears and actions to Georgia state run-offs!

Something here has got to give.. talk about long term stressors.. If Covid doesn't get ya, that will. ugh!

[MichMan]

86. To protest about churchs endangering public health, you suggest people congregate in DC

Trying to understand the logic you present.

Protesting a ruling allowing church services as a danger to public health, by suggesting large numbers of people then congregate in DC, therefore also threatening public health ?

If the argument is that church gatherings should be prohibited for public health reasons, for consistency, one would also have to argue that protests should also be prohibited for the same exact reasons, right?

Yet, both are constitutionally protected, aren't they?

[Liberty Belle]

109. Outside with masks and social distancing is less risky than indoors without masks.

A church in San Diego County has caused outbreaks and continues to defy public health orders - not even requiring masking or social distancing at indoor worship services. This sort of thing should be able to be shut down.

In our area we have had massive protests and riots during the pandemic with many thousands participating, and almost no cases traced to any of those. While not risk free (what is?) it's nowhere near as dangerous as people singing and chanting in a church, especially when many don't wear masks or socially distance, which are required at all indoor venues in CA.

[radius777]

28. Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.

You shall not have the right to endanger the health of others by holding indoor superspreader events in the name of your so called religion, while hospitals are overloaded.

This is just the beginning of this bullshit. We are going to start to see the terrible effects of this RW heavy court. Thank goodness Roberts has some sanity (he wrote the dissent) but it's not going to be enough in most cases with such a lopsided court.

[flibbitygiblets]

30. So much for states rights

[BootinUp]

37. Another pose revealed. Nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

32. From here on out she shall be known as Amy COVID Barrett.

[33taw]

34. Why just her?

[elleng]

40. Thanks, 5-4 decision, on APPLICATION FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF,

pending disposition of the appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

[Raine]

52. Yes, there was four others. nt

[kcr]

97. Why defend her?

[33taw]

99. There 5 people that voted to overrule. I blame them all regardless of how new they are to the

Court.

[kcr]

102. Too bad. They are all equally to blame

Therefore not a single one of them is protected from criticism merely because they acted in a group.

[33taw]

104. She is the junior member of the court. There is no more blood on her hands than

Thomas and Alito.

[kcr]

106. But there is still blood on her hands.

She isn't excused from criticism simply because she isn't the only one, or because she's the newest. No one criticizing her is doing a damned thing wrong. Stop protecting her.

[33taw]

107. I am not protecting her anymore that you are protecting Thomas, Alito, Goursch and Kavanaugh

As a new justice she has little influence.

[PufPuf23]

35. Rather than expand the USSC, IMO best to get the unfit Justices off the court,

to start with Barrett and Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, the Trump nominees. Barrett and Kavanaugh perjured during their appointment hearings, Gorsuch should have been Garland but McConell and the GOP cheated.

Some may not like this but IMO the justice that have a strong religious belief that is inconsistent with our Constitution is also unfit for the USSC. Take out Alito and Thomas (who also perjured during hearings) too. We have freedom of and freedom from religion.

[Polybius]

110. Yeah good luck with that

Impeachment requires 67 votes, something we'll never have. With that being said, you want to impeach every Justice except Roberts?

[elleng]

39. SILLINESS here in reaction to this APPLICATION FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF,

pending disposition of the appeal in the United States
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and disposition of
the petition for a writ of certiorari, if such writ is timely
sought.

MORE to follow. Language suggests the Court seeks/might seek, accept different terms, as the order refers to the matter thus: 'Executive Order issued by the Governor of New York that imposes very severe
restrictions on attendance at religious services.'

[RANDYWILDMAN]

42. This is Roberts legacy and he can't change it now...

You sink in the boat you came in.

You knew how dirty the Bush V. Gore case was and you benefitted, but so did Kav and ACB and they really aren't legal scholars, they Are religious and political hacks, Good luck!

[madaboutharry]

44. Alito is also a religious extremist.

I don’t know what Thomas other than he is a far right wing nut with a crazy wife.

Kavanaugh and Gorsuch find any reason to not side with the “liberals” on the court. They’re both pompous asses.

Chief Justice John Roberts must me one of the saddest men in America. I think he really misses Ginsburg. He refers her as “our Ruth.” He so does not want his legacy tied to a label of extremism and a court that was consistently doing the wrong thing.

Barrett is controlled by her religious fanaticism. Everything is filtered through that lens. She lied to the Senate and refused to answer almost all of their questions. She is a fraud.

[GoCubsGo]

70. Thomas is a religious nut, as well, apparently.

I believe he is a member of that "Opus Dei" cult that his pal, Scalia, was in. Alito is part of it, too, if I'm not mistaken.

[DanieRains]

45. Just Close The Hospitals To People Who Don't Follow Sensible Restrictions - Save Yourselves

They can go die in their churches.

You have to pass a lie detector to see a doctor if you have Covid symptoms.

Sounds fair to me.

[NewsCenter28]

47. She's just getting started-her coup is next

Starting to think that she and the 4 other fascists really will declare Trump’s lawsuits valid and throw out millions of properly cast votes. She made her deal with Satan to get on the court and now he wants his due! They have no regard for freedom, Democracy or Justice. Only to establish their 1-party totalitarian state with Putin Lord Emperor. She proved herself batshit crazy tonight. My god. She and her ilk are truly evil incarnate and nothing is off the table for them.

[StarfishSaver]

77. That's not going to happen

[NanceGreggs]

48. If churches were really pro-life ...

... and believed in being their brothers' keeper, they would have voluntarily closed their churches to the public months ago.

[NewsCenter28]

49. Ya it's such utter sickening bullshit Nance-n/t!

[Progressive Jones]

55. I always wonder how many of the faithful truly have a beef with COVID19 restrictions.

Are these kinds of suits brought by think tanks, or hundreds of millions of worshipers?

[ucrdem]

63. In his latest book the Pope criticizes people who protest church closings and mask mandates

So there's that . . .

Pope Francis, never one to shy from controversy, wades boldly into the coronavirus debate with a new book in which he criticizes those who blame the virus on foreigners and people who protest church closings and mask mandates.

In his book, Let Us Dream: The Path to a Better Future, based on conversations he had with papal biographer Austen Ivereigh, Francis also speaks out on the protests against racial injustice, poverty, and the arms trade, saying those Catholics who refuse to join such movements give "a bad example, losing the sense of solidarity and fraternity with the rest of their brothers and sisters."

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/23/938016396/in-a-new-book-pope-francis-speaks-out-on-the-coronavirus-and-anti-mask-protests

gotta love Frank

[ananda]

61. I guess this means that the crazy religious nutters...

have taken over the asylum we call America.

It is pro-death on the march.

I keep wondering how much sickness and death
it will take for people to come to their senses
and regain their common humanity in favor of
the living.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

64. We have to keep the House and win the Senate in 2022, by a large enough margin

to at least override Manchin.

The death count of innocent people will continue to rise as long as the fascists are in control of the SCOTUS.

[Mike Niendorff]

66. Once again :

28 USC 1

EXPAND. THE. COURT.


MDN

[GoCubsGo]

68. Well, the vast majority aren't going to be fetuses, so it's okay.

"Pro Life" my fat ass.

Honestly, if they want to die for their invisible superfriend in the clouds, they can have at it. Just stay away from the rest of us while you are at it

[UCmeNdc]

69. Voting matters, elections have consequences, if only we had a president Hillary Clinton,,,,,,,,

[yardwork]

72. This was a 5 to 4 decision, and Trump three of the five.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected president in 2016 instead of Trump, this would have been a 7 to 2 decision in favor of public health.

[StarfishSaver]

78. But Hillary just wasn't progressive enough

Or something ...

[yardwork]

80. Right. And this decision doesn't bode well for the future.

We've got 5 justices on the SC who believe that "religious freedom" is more important than protecting the public's health during a pandemic. How will vote on other cases involving "religious freedom?"

[Shermann]

83. It's telling that you can so easily predict how these "nonpartisans" will vote

How can anyone claim they are taking an enlightened, impartial, nuanced view of these cases when this is so?

[treestar]

93. Exactly!

The purity brigade just looks at things all wrong. They fail to pull together with the rest of us to get done what we can.

[Hortensis]

82. Gorsuch's "reasoning" is blatantly dishonest, shockingly typical of people

so ideologically and politically extreme that even one who's been on the bench for years can't justify his decision honestly.

In a concurring opinion, Justice Neil M. Gorsuch said Mr. Cuomo had treated secular activities more favorably than religious ones. “It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues and mosques,” Justice Gorsuch wrote.

People do not gather for long periods in "liquor stores and bike shops" to sing and pray while they share each other's exhalations.

And the churches were not "shuttered." Services continued but with severely limited numbers who could attend at one time. Justice Roberts considered the public safety restrictions justified under the circumstances.

Dishonest, intellectually shuttered bastard. And Gorsuch really is self proven to be all.

[dalton99a]

87. +1

[treestar]

92. Exactly!

There is no comparison. And they can have online services. How the public health has to give way to religion is insanity.

[Hortensis]

96. Effectively. A lot of extremists believe the ridiculous

things they say are completely or essentially true at heart. But my guess is this one's mainly a corrupt ideologue cynically manipulating the huge market for political lies these days. An upmarket Barr on the high court.

[Bettie]

84. She probably feels pretty good about that

kind of feels like a death cult move.

[DFW]

94. She is vaccinated against guilt or remorse

A few thousand more dead? Nothing a few extra Hail Marys in the confessional won’t fix.

[musette_sf]

98. She's a hateful, psycho piece of 💩

and she and Boof Boy need to be impeached.

[bdamomma]

100. The handmaid

is showing her true side.

[onecaliberal]

105. Amy Covid likes the spread.

[KWR65]

108. That is OK. She is pro-life. So it balances out.