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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:24 AM Nov 2020

Trump's conspiracies have MAGA world talking Georgia boycott

Bring it!!


Trump’s conspiracies have MAGA world talking Georgia boycott
It's hard to tell if the online chatter reflects wider voter sentiment, but some Republicans have expressed concern.
By TINA NGUYEN and JAMES ARKIN
11/26/2020 06:00 AM EST


President Donald Trump’s demonization of mail-in voting may have cost him votes in the recent election. Now, his demonization of Georgia’s entire electoral system is hurting his party’s chances at keeping the Senate.

Driven by Trump’s insistence that Georgia’s elections are indelibly rife with fraud, conspiratorial MAGA figures are calling for a boycott of the two Senate runoff races, slated for Jan. 5, that will determine which party controls the upper chamber.


Their reason: The two GOP candidates, Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, are not only insufficiently pro-Trump, they may be complicit in Georgia’s electoral fraud.

It doesn’t matter that both candidates are essentially lock-step with Trump, or that there is no evidence of links to electoral malfeasance. On Twitter and its less-restrictive alternative Parler, Trump’s more hardline followers have linked the duo to the president’s favorite — and untrue — voter-fraud theories. Hashtags like #CrookedPerdue and #CrookedKelly are flying around. The two lawmakers’ Parler accounts are brimming with posts accusing them of being secret “liberal DemoRats.”

The swelling anger is not just emanating from everyday QAnon believers in the MAGAverse. It’s also coming from prominent lawyers working on Trump’s behalf, including Sidney Powell, who was briefly a lead attorney in Trump’s push to overturn the election.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/26/trump-conspiracies-georgia-senate-440776

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Trump's conspiracies have MAGA world talking Georgia boycott (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2020 OP
getting serious as now Parler is censoring this, which is a hoot as Parler was set up to avoid beachbumbob Nov 2020 #1
I saw somewhere that Parler records personal info badhair77 Nov 2020 #4
why you have to fake ID and set up dummy email accounts to create a Parler account beachbumbob Nov 2020 #15
Apparently they require leftieNanner Nov 2020 #21
yep. I had no problem setting up a fake account with my photoshop skills beachbumbob Nov 2020 #27
They could be hacked. They haven't yet. Gore1FL Nov 2020 #36
Now that sounds promising Blue Owl Nov 2020 #2
Sounds like some Parler disinformation campaigns are in order to stoke division. TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #35
If MAGA Rs boycott and those senate seats flip, then they'll also complain... forgotmylogin Nov 2020 #37
Is this what we used to call "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" or simply stupid? Frustratedlady Nov 2020 #3
Btw, that phrase dates back to the 13th Century empedocles Nov 2020 #10
For real? Well, that is about as far back as I am on family history. LOL Frustratedlady Nov 2020 #12
Family history??? Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #44
Now you're gonna claim the Germans never bombed Pearl Harbor? empedocles Nov 2020 #46
My bad! I did that once before...I know better. Frustratedlady Nov 2020 #48
Shhhhh, don't spoil the surprise for them. dbonds Nov 2020 #22
All votes cast for Trump on any ballot before the inauguration count toward his total brewens Nov 2020 #5
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #7
Before the inaguration... reACTIONary Nov 2020 #47
The best thing to happen for the kGOP is GA senate loss. If kGOP wins Red Don will run their policy uponit7771 Nov 2020 #6
Thank goodness! North Shore Chicago Nov 2020 #8
I'm not buying it yet. But if it happens in GA it might be the end of the GOP Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #9
The end of the GOP? Quemado Nov 2020 #42
I agree that a viable third party seems like a long shot but Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #45
You're right about Texas. Quemado Nov 2020 #49
The conniving (and perhaps overthinking) part of my brain has another theory -- flor-de-jasmim Nov 2020 #11
Even if a few thousand Rs buy into this and don't vote it could be a deciding factor captain queeg Nov 2020 #13
#CrookedPerdue and #CrookedKelly BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 #14
Never interrupt an enemy when they are busy making a mistake... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #16
Or kozar Nov 2020 #17
" Please don't throw me in the briar patch" ashredux Nov 2020 #18
Gradually shrink the percentage..... Jon King Nov 2020 #19
What a hoot! paleotn Nov 2020 #20
I fully endorse the repub boycott of the Georgia runoff elections. warmfeet Nov 2020 #23
Tell all of the Georgian MAGA voters that they are correct. The RINOs in the GOP did not support UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #24
Only thing I can guess from this is that they're all getting out in front of an impending GOP loss. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #25
I have a word of advice for them. Stop talking and do it! marble falls Nov 2020 #26
A MAGAt boycott sounds like a splendid idea to me! Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #28
Good Good Good! calimary Nov 2020 #29
Please Proceed Martin Eden Nov 2020 #30
Democrats on the internet should be doing everything they can to pose as "conservatives " and push Takket Nov 2020 #31
Agree! UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #39
This is too bizarre to get my head around. CanonRay Nov 2020 #32
He is trying SO hard. I just hope it's enough. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #33
Shh, don't tell anyone that is happening...let them stay discouraged so they won't vote Escurumbele Nov 2020 #34
Never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake SnowCritter Nov 2020 #38
Here's some Georgia special election mischief to share. Snarkoleptic Nov 2020 #40
Do it, do it, PLEASEEEEEEEE do it. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #41
I might want to move to Georgia now. I liked it before but if the MAGA boycott it would be Boogiemack Nov 2020 #43
I'm sure they'll do just fine without the MAGAts. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #50
The Parler hypocrisy is just stunning SpankMe Nov 2020 #51
KR.. hope their stupidity Works! Cha Nov 2020 #52
MAGAts are liars. GOTV or donate ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #53
Conservatives want to boycott candidates who are their only hope of holding the Senate? intheflow Nov 2020 #54
Good. Good. GOOD. roamer65 Nov 2020 #55
This could work Ani Yun Wiya Nov 2020 #56
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. getting serious as now Parler is censoring this, which is a hoot as Parler was set up to avoid
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

liberal censorship


can;t make this shit up

badhair77

(4,214 posts)
4. I saw somewhere that Parler records personal info
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:34 AM
Nov 2020

on its users, plus maintaining ownership of photos and videos posted there. These are the things those people were constantly on a crusade about with facebook. I th8nk Parler is go8ng to eventually bite them in the butt.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
21. Apparently they require
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:05 PM
Nov 2020

You to submit your social security number and a copy of your photo ID! What could possibly go wrong??

Oh. They were hacked.

Oops.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
27. yep. I had no problem setting up a fake account with my photoshop skills
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

and lord asking for SS? I thought that was funny as thats easy to fake as well

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
35. Sounds like some Parler disinformation campaigns are in order to stoke division.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

.

At least these will be Made in USA and not farmed to Russia & China like the GOP ones.

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forgotmylogin

(7,524 posts)
37. If MAGA Rs boycott and those senate seats flip, then they'll also complain...
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

"HOW DID DEMS GET ALL THE VOTES IT'S A CONSPIRACY VOTING IS BROKEN!"

Yeah, tell your people not to vote, you're gonna lose.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. Is this what we used to call "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" or simply stupid?
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:33 AM
Nov 2020

About the time I think I have the Repukes figured out, they prove me wrong...totally.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
12. For real? Well, that is about as far back as I am on family history. LOL
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 11:12 AM
Nov 2020

My grandson and I are tracking different branches and are coming up with all kinds of goodies, including royalty (no jewels). In fact, we are presently concentrating on one teenage boy who supposedly was on the Mayflower. When they lowered a small boat to come ashore, Columbus hit bottom and the boy jumped out and pulled the boat to ground.

We found that in a timely manner with Thanksgiving and all.

Thanks for the info.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
44. Family history???
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

Columbus was NOT on the Mayflower. The Mayflower was the name of the ship that brought a group of Pilgrims to what became New England. Columbus was on the La Santa Maria, decades earlier, that sailed to the Caribbean.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
48. My bad! I did that once before...I know better.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:37 PM
Nov 2020

My grandson has the info and my brain automatically tied Columbus with the boy and Mayflower. His name is Samson, as I remember. He was 16 or so and came with his relatives. I'll have to get the info from Shaun when he's finished. Working from memory over a phone conversation obviously doesn't work.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
5. All votes cast for Trump on any ballot before the inauguration count toward his total
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Thu Nov 26, 2020, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)

in the presidential election. It's right there in the Constitution. Also the Federalist Papers and the Bible. He could still catch up easily! Write him in MAGAt's! We can do this!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. The best thing to happen for the kGOP is GA senate loss. If kGOP wins Red Don will run their policy
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

... from the sidelines leaving him a controlling head of the kGOP vs one that just makes a bunch of noises about nothing.

North Shore Chicago

(3,312 posts)
8. Thank goodness!
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

that the head MAGAT is so inept, everything he touches remains diseased. We need to prepare for a smart, nimble MAGAT in the future.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
9. I'm not buying it yet. But if it happens in GA it might be the end of the GOP
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

It would centralize a lot of power with the Trump wing of the party. And they are some petty bitches. I think we would see more centrist Republicans either become members of the Democratic Party or they would try to split and create their own party.

Is a three party system viable?

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
42. The end of the GOP?
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:11 PM
Nov 2020

Losing the two Georgia Senate seats would definitely do some damage, but I don't think it will be the end of the GOP.

One factor that would diminish (but not end) the GOP as we know it is demographics. The GOP has become essentially a white nationalist party. It's projected that white people will be less than 50% of the US population by 2050. But in certain states, the white population will still be in the majority. For example, I don't see a huge increase in the non-white population of Wyoming coming anytime soon. So, in certain states, the GOP will maintain it's domination for a long time.

Georgia has become a bellwether state. Georgia is the 8th most populous state with a significant black population. Atlanta is the 8th largest metropolitan statistical area in terms of population. Georgia may turn blue permanently.

If the Trump wing of the party goes too far to the right, we might see more people who identify with the Republican party finally get disgusted and leave, but that remains to be seen.

A three party system is probably not going to happen anytime soon. Why not? Dark money. Also, third parties like the Green Party and the Libertarian Party currently do not have enough people interested in them to make a difference in most political races.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
45. I agree that a viable third party seems like a long shot but
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:32 PM
Nov 2020

What do the never Trumpers do if he ends up being as ble to exert defining influence over the party? Do they try to make the Democratic Part more centrist? Or do they just start sitting out politics?

I think one (really 2) elections could make a big difference if Republican voters stay home at Trump's direction. You could argue that his influence will wan over time. But how much time? If you couple that will changing demographics in Texas, it could be very difficult for a far right party to stay relevant.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
49. You're right about Texas.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

If Texas turns blue (or even Florida), it's bye-bye GOP as a major political party at the national level.

The problem with never Trumpers is that there isn't enough of them.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
11. The conniving (and perhaps overthinking) part of my brain has another theory --
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 11:06 AM
Nov 2020

Let's forget for a moment how dumb they can be -

Imagine realizing that you suddenly realize that a win by the GOP would actually be a disaster, but you can't figure out to extricate yourself from following the path to that conclusion. Getting people not to vote is a neat way of achieving a better goal (and wouldn't it be a better goal for all?) without appearing to lose face?

captain queeg

(10,157 posts)
13. Even if a few thousand Rs buy into this and don't vote it could be a deciding factor
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

Most MAGATs aren’t necessarily repukes, they are trumpers. Before party, before country, he is their god-king.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
19. Gradually shrink the percentage.....
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

Lets hope the 74 million Trump voters is the peak and we can gradually decrease their percentage of total voters going forward. Some will die off, some will be so bummed when their king is not re-elected by some Supreme Court miracle. Grow the base, the suburbs in NC, TX, GA. Educate young voters on the evils of Repubs.

This 74 million has to be the absolute worst case peak of this evil movement.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
23. I fully endorse the repub boycott of the Georgia runoff elections.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:08 PM
Nov 2020

Joe and Kamala can do so much more if we have control of the senate.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
24. Tell all of the Georgian MAGA voters that they are correct. The RINOs in the GOP did not support
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:10 PM
Nov 2020

Trump enough!

Do a write in on the Georgia Senatorial Ballot for Trump as a Senator representing Georgia.

Show the GOP you mean business!

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
25. Only thing I can guess from this is that they're all getting out in front of an impending GOP loss.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

Better to look like you sabotaged your own chances than to appear like you got beat fair and square.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
31. Democrats on the internet should be doing everything they can to pose as "conservatives " and push
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:32 PM
Nov 2020

This. If Russia and pose as “concerned” Democrats question Clinton and Biden. Well that is a two way street. Hopefully lefties are out there in places like parler pretending to be outraged and demanding loyal MAGAts boycott the runoff!!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
33. He is trying SO hard. I just hope it's enough.
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:37 PM
Nov 2020

I can understand his "thought process," however. He probably feels that the GOP let him down, both in the campaign, but especially now. Lashing out at those closest is far from uncommon, and I hope my Hallowe'en wish on The Great Pumpkin comes true.

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
34. Shh, don't tell anyone that is happening...let them stay discouraged so they won't vote
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

It is essential for Democrats to take the senate, so let them feel displaced, let them punish the republicans by not voting...I think it is a great strategy, lets promote it, not criticize it.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
38. Never interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:54 PM
Nov 2020

Somebody famous said something similar (Napoleon, I think - or maybe it was Sun Tzu).

Anyway, I wish them well in their boycott.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
51. The Parler hypocrisy is just stunning
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 04:48 PM
Nov 2020

A mainstream media story on this is mandatory. A series of mainstream media stories. This has to be drilled into mainstream consciousness.

They created Parler claiming they had a free speech right to promote baseless and false conspiracy theories without being "censored". Note that in a significant number of cases, the false assertions were merely flagged and not removed on Twitter and Facebook.

So, the MAGAts take their conspiratorial craziness to their free speech haven, Parler. And what does Parler do to a conspiracy theory expressed on their platform that could jeopardize Republicans' chances in GA? They censor and remove it!

Interestingly, while many pronounce Parler like the English word "Parlor" - the room where people convene after dinner to meet and talk ("I'll have tea in the Parlor&quot - when spelled Parler it is pronounced "Parlay" and is the French verb "to speak".

So, the "freedom fries" brigade is embracing a term from their hated and stated enemy, the French!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,320 posts)
53. MAGAts are liars. GOTV or donate ...
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 06:38 PM
Nov 2020

DU actblue link for Georgia runoff and Fair Fight:
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/dufor2020runoff

Also, has Loeffler or Perdue ever denied secretly owning stock in Dominion and conspiring with Kemp?

intheflow

(28,461 posts)
54. Conservatives want to boycott candidates who are their only hope of holding the Senate?
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:16 AM
Nov 2020

I did Nazi see that coming. 2020 continues to bring it.

Ani Yun Wiya

(797 posts)
56. This could work
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:16 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:55 AM - Edit history (1)

The difference between Purdue and Ossoff is 88,098 so if about 90,000 out of about 2.4 million took this route Ossoff would win.
And only about 0.040 percent of the total previously voted would have to go that way.

Edited for arithmetic error.

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