What do you see as the lasting effects of the Trump Administration?

[Poiuyt]

I know that trump's executive orders can be reversed by Biden. And if we get a liberal Congress, most of his policies can be corrected. The Supreme Court will be conservative for some time to come, but it's not inconceivable that some of the conservative justices could die or retire during a Democratic administration, or a Democratic administration and a liberal congress could reform the courts. In fact, if we get a Democratic administration and a liberal congress, they can do much to restore and even improve America legislatively. In other words, a lot of the damage will not be permanent.

Other things that trump did can not be easily restored. We've lost precious time with the environment. We've lost standing in the world (I think that will eventually be restored, but it will take maybe a generation and some proactive benevolent work on our part). The racism and fascism that trump encouraged will never totally go away, but I hope will subside somewhat.

What do you think will be trump's lasting legacy? In 50-100 years, will this era just be a blip with trump becoming a forgotten president? Or will people still be talking about what he did to America?

[sinkingfeeling]

1. The destruction of democracy in what was the USA.

[Brother Mythos]

9. Yes, Loser has laid bare the fact that a large percentage ...

of our country's population does not give a damn about our democracy, our constitution, or the very rule of law. And, I'm quite certain the plutocrats and theocrats have taken notice of this, and are salivating over the prospects of taking ownership and control of the entire country.

Further, as the plutocrats and theocrats are already expert propagandists, and they already own and control major media outlets, it's going to be very difficult for the rest of us to stop them.

[Doreen]

2. A lot of years to come of grueling work to correct it.

[MFM008]

3. Death

[pnwest]

4. I think it will be a cultural impact - in that R's are now emboldened

to commit crimes right out in the open, in your face, and flip you the bird while they're doing it. Republican lying, cheating, stealing and manipulation will be standard operating procedure, EXPECTED behavior from all new recruits.

Unless there are many, many charges brought, and real jail time doled out to the offenders. The only way to make it clear to R's and their base that their actions are wrong is to prosecute and jail a lot of people, and I just don't see that happening.

I pray that it will, but I don't hold out a lot of hope.

[underpants]

5. I agree that this will bring out more and more outrageous behavior

They will one ups each other especially in really safe House seats.

[Thomas Hurt]

6. A christofasicst movement toward christian theocracy.

A divided country where a large percentage of the fascists have been radicalized.
A GOP establishment who has had a taste of getting what the greedy and power mad a holes have wanted for decades.
A revival of open and rampant racism, as well the violence that goes with it.
A populace whose majority is ignorant of the consequences of fascism.
A populace who no longer cares about the Constitutional precepts of equality under the law but white nationalist, christian authoritarianism to get what they want.

[pandr32]

7. Debt

Lots and lots of it. I'll bet the plunder is worse than we thought.

[stillcool]

8. yeah. I bet they don't even know

what their take has been. So many fingers in so many pies. Who can keep track? Plus the GOP isn't big on counting.

[czarjak]

10. Carnage!

[Kitchari]

11. The children who have absorbed the message of hate

Plus the absence of decency, the lying and greed of the current powers that be - the children who have been imprisoned and abused - the children whose parents and grandparents are dying of Covid and opiates and despair. I grieve for the terrible and longlasting effect upon the children.

[cachukis]

12. The 18th, 19th and 20th Centuries are only left in a few minds of the 21st.

How quickly, the imposter, imposted through twitter. Social Media will blow by the over 60's in spite of their trying. The twenty percent rule says that 20% of us will manage this new world. There will be 60% struggling to stay current. Some will hang with the top twenty percent and some will gravitate toward the bottom 20% who didn't have much chance. There are 60% of us that will mangle a lot of what's coming. He, who shall be remembered, will leave a legacy. What will become of us will be that legacy. We know what's happening. How many of us can walk by that Petit Four?

[cachukis]

15. Firewall, but my point.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/young-voters-helped-biden-beat-trump-after-holding-back-in-primaries-11606399200

[NRaleighLiberal]

13. Permanent extreme polarization into his cult (which will have to slowly die off)

and those of reason

[keithbvadu2]

14. Trump's implicit approval of racism and antisemitism.

Trump's implicit approval of racism and antisemitism.

[Ms. Toad]

16. The death of facts, respect for the media, respect for elections. Empathy and civil behavior.

Our political differences in the past have largely been policy ones over how to solve a problem. Sometimes we disagreed about the existence of a problem. But - by and large we agreed as to the facts and trusted the meda and investigative journalism to help us sort it out. Jouralism, by and large, was not seen as a propaganda wing of one political party or another (the way OAN, Fox News, etc.) are seen as a political arm of the Republicans.

Now we disagree as to the facts. We all look for sound bite journalism, and have knee jerk reactions to anyone who suggests the facts may not have been accurately stated in the 30-second blurb. I like to think that our side is open to a deeper, more nuanced, understanding of the underlying facts - but my experiences here tell me that many of us are not.

We have to get back to a place where undisputed facts are undisputed facts - not myths created to serve one or the other party. We need to make sure that part of our curriculum at evere grade level is training in critical thinking so our children have the tools to evaluate whether something presented to them is fact or opinion.

As to empathy and civil behavior - I find DU barely tolerable on those fronts. The measure of our behavior should not be whether Trump, et al, deserves it - but whether we can act in that manner without damaging our own souls, to use Biden's term, and that of America. It is impossible to use a characteristic (gender, mental health, appearance, incontinence) as an insult without damaging ourselves and those we love who share that characeristic. Yet it happens all the time here (see the current thread on incontinence, in which the OP initially did not disclose they were referring to themselves when they said, "please stop the #diaperdon jokes - I know someone . . . &quot .