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Nevilledog

(51,005 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:00 PM Dec 2020

Former head of Israeli space security program says aliens exist and Trump knows.



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Richard Hanania
@RichardHanania
Former head of Israeli space security program says aliens exist, but they think humans aren't ready, so they only communicate with the governments of the US and Israel. Trump found out and was going to tell everyone, but they convinced him to keep quiet. https://jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405
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Former head of Israeli space security program says aliens exist and Trump knows. (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP
Yes, and I'm Aunt Jemima..............and Trump knows. secondwind Dec 2020 #1
Hmmmmmm..........pancakes. Nevilledog Dec 2020 #2
And what are pancakes shaped like? blugbox Dec 2020 #15
You're not wrong ornotna Dec 2020 #30
Haha there we go! Proof. blugbox Dec 2020 #68
Joe Simonton said they tasted like cardboard. Kid Berwyn Dec 2020 #51
Holy crap! They gave him pancakes hahaha! blugbox Dec 2020 #69
Sorry, but Andy823 Dec 2020 #3
Please! keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #8
Oh, he'll keep his mouth shut..... Red Mountain Dec 2020 #41
Well, That Would Cover 3.333%... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #71
Humanity isn't even ready to save its own lives marybourg Dec 2020 #4
Yep. johnp3907 Dec 2020 #5
2020 Please stop!! awesomerwb1 Dec 2020 #6
Somebody stop this thing so I can get off. Nt BootinUp Dec 2020 #7
So this nutjob told Trump not to tell and now he's telling??? Raven Dec 2020 #9
if everything is ready on the dark side of the moon, play the 5 tones . AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #10
If Trump knew that, he would be building a space wall. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #11
Well if they are friendly aliens.. mvd Dec 2020 #12
Aliens probably say that to the head of every country and then snicker ck4829 Dec 2020 #13
It's a menu! bronxiteforever Dec 2020 #14
Actually, I think it was a cookbook! CTyankee Dec 2020 #19
I apologize you are correct! bronxiteforever Dec 2020 #25
no apologies, I like the menu idea! CTyankee Dec 2020 #37
... PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #16
How do you find these pictures????? nt LAS14 Dec 2020 #20
... PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #28
So THAT'S what's behind this whole Space Force scheme! smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #17
I wish they would pick up the Trumps- all of them essme Dec 2020 #18
Shit, I wish they would pick me up! LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #24
Dammit, I thought the alien lizardmen were on our side and wanted to eat all real Muricans! Thomas Hurt Dec 2020 #21
Steven Miller is their representative here Bayard Dec 2020 #22
No Way ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #72
I would assume aliens would be intelligent enough Bayard Dec 2020 #79
Next we'll find a stainless steel monument mysteriously appear on the 9th hole. Vinca Dec 2020 #23
okay... myohmy2 Dec 2020 #26
Lunatic Fringe. I know your out there. KWR65 Dec 2020 #27
No proof, but plenty of solid evidence from multiple credible sources elevator Dec 2020 #38
Pure BS! Please link to your best proof of aliens! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Dec 2020 #42
I said there was plenty of evidence (not proof) presented by very credible people elevator Dec 2020 #46
Link to your best evidence??? USALiberal Dec 2020 #52
My research has been done over decades so I have a pretty good elevator Dec 2020 #58
I know of Dolan..... USALiberal Dec 2020 #60
Of course he sells books and does videos. That is how he gets his elevator Dec 2020 #73
Cameras everywhere now and still no proof! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #80
There are literally thousands of videos and photos over decades. elevator Dec 2020 #83
Klass looked into it.... USALiberal Dec 2020 #81
Klass is a liar and always fabricates BS. elevator Dec 2020 #84
Lol, keep tying! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #88
LOL treestar Dec 2020 #93
This tactic is wrong treestar Dec 2020 #64
Please point out where I made any claim. elevator Dec 2020 #85
What is the point of debate if you do not care treestar Dec 2020 #89
I just think it's funny when people call bs on things that they evidently elevator Dec 2020 #95
We cannot disprove a negative treestar Dec 2020 #99
Once again and please listen for once...I am not claiming anything. elevator Dec 2020 #106
Not really, you seem to claim there is evidence for UFOs treestar Dec 2020 #108
See my post below. elevator Dec 2020 #110
I believe 2+222. "And don't give me it is my place to prove it..." LanternWaste Dec 2020 #102
Anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers use identical arguments Codeine Dec 2020 #75
I have seen some weak strawmen come down the pike elevator Dec 2020 #86
You have no evidence treestar Dec 2020 #90
I don't have evidence personally, but there is a voluminous amount out there elevator Dec 2020 #94
Whatever they saw might be explained treestar Dec 2020 #100
Operative word 'might". I never said "they" were aliens. elevator Dec 2020 #109
You might have more credibility if you knew the difference between your and elevator Dec 2020 #98
Does credibility also require objective evidence rather than mere allegation as well? LanternWaste Dec 2020 #103
It is amazing people think the Earth is the only place in the universe with life. former9thward Dec 2020 #29
Or maybe we r just sick of unfounded bullshit. Nt BootinUp Dec 2020 #33
That's some grade A escalation. SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #54
Lol, other life is not what people deny.... USALiberal Dec 2020 #53
Exactly, and your research will reveal that in theory it is possible to travel FTL elevator Dec 2020 #59
All I need is a single proof of an alien! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #61
They'd still be too far away treestar Dec 2020 #66
Nope, If they have discovered how to warp spacetime then the travel elevator Dec 2020 #70
The concept that they could have been discovered treestar Dec 2020 #65
I think there's life elsewhere in the universe. I just don't think they're all... Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #67
True. If they knew about us, they might well ignore us. treestar Dec 2020 #91
People Here Are Denying That? ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #74
People simultaneously posit races of aliens Codeine Dec 2020 #76
Right With You! ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #82
Conjuring up armies of strawmen, and or women, as you and the poster above elevator Dec 2020 #97
Do You Do Stand-Up? ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #104
I'm funnier sitting, or lying down. elevator Dec 2020 #111
There are many possible reasons for an alien race to have an elevator Dec 2020 #96
Calling people lunatics etc. just because there's no proof isn't fair...it's like saying that is... SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #31
Proof matters! It's called science! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #36
Isn't part of science finding out what is unknown? I mean, we really don't know perhaps the.... SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #43
There was plenty of proof that disease existed before the *mechanism* of disease transmission... Silent3 Dec 2020 #45
There's an enormous difference between acknowledging Codeine Dec 2020 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Dec 2020 #32
One of my favorite cartoons. :) n/t area51 Dec 2020 #62
The real truth is tRump held off so he could make a deal..... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2020 #34
No aliens, ESP, ghosts, mind readers, etc! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #35
Do you hereby decree it? SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #55
Yes, until there is proof of any of them! Nt USALiberal Dec 2020 #56
I am the alien spokes Reptoid, and you are now ready for my message. denbot Dec 2020 #40
Smart aliens would put Earth under quarantine to stop the spread of humans. roamer65 Dec 2020 #44
ROAFLOL - Trump keeping quiet! How many people called him "Sir" in Maru Kitteh Dec 2020 #47
"The Jerusalem Post was unable to reach out to this supposed Galactic Federation for comment" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2020 #48
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords Baclava Dec 2020 #50
Read this last night and thought . . . peggysue2 Dec 2020 #57
Cats. MineralMan Dec 2020 #63
Fact Check rates: Plausible. JHB Dec 2020 #78
I don't want Trump and Netanyahu... lame54 Dec 2020 #77
Would these aliens that have made contact happen to be named Kronos and Kang? nt Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #87
Kang and "Kodos"... Johnson. Chiyo-chichi Dec 2020 #101
Ah, yes, Kodos. My bad. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #105
This may very well be. I believe extraterrestrial intelligence has quite possibly been triron Dec 2020 #92
All these years, everyone got the ET soundtrack wrong. We thought he was saying "ET Home" DFW Dec 2020 #107
One of my best friends ScratchCat Dec 2020 #112
It must be ... BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #113
A "galactic federation" has been waiting for humans to "reach a stage where we will understand... BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #114

Kid Berwyn

(14,795 posts)
51. Joe Simonton said they tasted like cardboard.
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:14 AM
Dec 2020

It was late morning on April 18, 1961, when a humble plumber in Eagle River, Wis., received a most unusual gift: a plate of bubbly textured, wafer-thin pancakes, served up by a kindly creature of the extraterrestrial kind. Or so he claimed...

Continues...

https://chippewa.com/paranormal-researcher-to-share-stories-of-alien-encounters/article_8b463aca-b4db-505b-9515-8bef357dd98e.html

blugbox

(951 posts)
69. Holy crap! They gave him pancakes hahaha!
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 01:58 PM
Dec 2020

Of course they would! Made of grains from Earth... and wouldn't you need water to mix the batter? Then why would they need a pitcher of water? Oops, there I go thinking logically again...

Now I'm craving buckwheat pancakes lol

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
3. Sorry, but
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:05 PM
Dec 2020

no way in hell can trump keep his mouth shut. The only way to silence him is for the aliens to drop him off on some unoccupied plant, light years away from here!

Red Mountain

(1,727 posts)
41. Oh, he'll keep his mouth shut.....
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:25 PM
Dec 2020

Unless you agree to pay for that information from the secret menu.

Aliens? $250 million.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
6. 2020 Please stop!!
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:10 PM
Dec 2020

What's more likely to be true:

1- Existence of extraterrestrial aliens

2- trump keeping his mouth shut?


I'll go with 1.

AllaN01Bear

(17,987 posts)
10. if everything is ready on the dark side of the moon, play the 5 tones .
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:16 PM
Dec 2020

always have and always will feel that there is life out there beyond the heavens .

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
11. If Trump knew that, he would be building a space wall.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:16 PM
Dec 2020

If Trump knew that, he would be building a space wall.

2 space aliens looking down on earth.
I see the dominant life form has developed space weapons.
Does this mean they are an emerging intelligence?
I don't think so. They have them aimed at themselves.
.

mvd

(65,160 posts)
12. Well if they are friendly aliens..
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:19 PM
Dec 2020

they’d want to avoid Trump completely. Hostile aliens would love Dump’s ablilty to wreck everything.

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
13. Aliens probably say that to the head of every country and then snicker
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:19 PM
Dec 2020

“We only trust you guys, don’t tell anyone else we talk to you.”

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
24. Shit, I wish they would pick me up!
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:57 PM
Dec 2020

I have just about had all of the MAGA stupidity I can stand. Either take me or take them.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
27. Lunatic Fringe. I know your out there.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 07:01 PM
Dec 2020

I'm really sick of these UFO and bigfoot claims with no proof.

?t=4
 

elevator

(415 posts)
38. No proof, but plenty of solid evidence from multiple credible sources
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:53 PM
Dec 2020

if one takes the time to research. Many things are true true that are difficult to provide absolute proof for.

Response to USALiberal (Reply #39)

 

elevator

(415 posts)
46. I said there was plenty of evidence (not proof) presented by very credible people
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 04:37 AM
Dec 2020

including scientists, Naval Pilots, Security People from Nuclear facilities etc, etc.
Many people have a lazy and incurious mind, and decline to do the research to educate themselves. An enlightened person would look at all the evidence and then attempt to draw the most logical conclusion. Some prefer to ignore evidence and form an opinion based on emotion, which causes them to lash out at others who don't share their ignorance.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
58. My research has been done over decades so I have a pretty good
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:02 AM
Dec 2020

understanding of the large inventory of cases going back many years. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or inclination to do your work for you. So you choose to remain uninformed, or spend some time educating yourself. It is much easier now with the internet available. There is a lot of crap out there, but a discerning mind can filter out the truth. You can get a good start by acquainting yourself with the works of Richard Dolan at his website.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
60. I know of Dolan.....
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:34 AM
Dec 2020

His job is selling books and tv shows.

Seems like if they are here we would have some real proof by now. Camera's everywhere!

Hell, at least in the 60s we had fake films to look at.

If there was anything real it would be world wide news!

 

elevator

(415 posts)
73. Of course he sells books and does videos. That is how he gets his
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:23 PM
Dec 2020

research out to people. That does not make him a hoaxer. His research is meticulous for the most part and he has been at it for many years.
Many of the films and photos from the 40's. 50's and 60's are some of the best evidence because they were taken before it was possible to alter them to any extent.

Many cases have attracted worldwide attention and many countries have been more open about revealing what they know than the US. Both Russian and American astronauts have said they saw craft they believed to be of extra-terrestrial origin.

Check out the photos taken by a farmer and his wife from McMinville Oregon in the fifties. Not proof, but hard to deny they are not any plane or balloon.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
83. There are literally thousands of videos and photos over decades.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 01:01 AM
Dec 2020

But, I don't believe videos or photos are proof. I guess you do since you keep saying there are cameras everywhere.

The eyewitness testimony by credible people for decades and actually extending back hundreds, if not thousands of years while still not "proof" is overwhelming evidence.

What could possibly constitute proof? Anything can be faked, just ask the Prez.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
81. Klass looked into it....
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:56 PM
Dec 2020

“ After Sheaffer sent his research and conclusions to William Hartmann, Hartmann withdrew his previous positive assessment of the case which had been forwarded to the Condon Committee.[14]

In April 2013, three researchers with IPACO posted two studies to their Web site titled "Back to McMinnville pictures" and "Evidence of a suspension thread."[15] They argued that the geometry of the photographs is most consistent with a small model with a hollow bottom hanging from a wire suspended from the power lines above, and they stated that they had detected the presence of a thread above the object. Their conclusion was that "the clear result of this study was that the McMinnville UFO was a model hanging from a thread."[16]”

 

elevator

(415 posts)
84. Klass is a liar and always fabricates BS.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 01:04 AM
Dec 2020

You'll have to do better.

Wonder if it was the poor ol farmer or his wife who climbed up to do the deed. talk about gullible.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
93. LOL
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 02:06 PM
Dec 2020

NEW RELEASE
The Alien Agendas
A Speculative Analysis of Those Visiting Earth
Released in November 2020​, this is a 245-page deep dive into the most likely scenario of the alien presence behind the UFO phenomenon. A powerfully written page-turning analysis, and another unique contribution by Richard Dolan.



Richard has analyzed the different alien types and agendas based on longstanding patterns observed by witnesses. This is both a careful review of the best evidence of human-alien interaction, and a bold speculation of who the aliens are and what they want.



Included are discussions of beings that look human but are still perceived as "alien," as well as reports of gray aliens, reptilians, insectoids, hybrids, and a range of others. Richard studies their likely psychology, society, technological capabilities, and goals.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
64. This tactic is wrong
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:21 PM
Dec 2020

You make the claim. If you want to convince someone you show the evidence. This cop out proves you don't really have anything.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
85. Please point out where I made any claim.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 01:07 AM
Dec 2020

I'll be waiting.
And I could care less about convincing you or anyone else. If folks want to remain smug and ignorant fine by me. I have simply pointed out the truth that there is credible evidence out there if one chooses to research a bit with an open mind.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
89. What is the point of debate if you do not care
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 01:56 PM
Dec 2020

about convincing anyone? Seems you are here just to prove you have researched more? But why should anyone believe you?

Telling others to research means you don't really have a link, that's all.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
95. I just think it's funny when people call bs on things that they evidently
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:35 PM
Dec 2020

have no idea about. I don't care whether you believe or not. I didn't say I believe in anything other than that is a lot of evidence of aerial objects with performance capabilities far beyond any known to exist on earth. The military takes these objects very seriously. Why should I waste time posting links to people that are too sure of what they "believe" than to accept evidence to the contrary. You remind me of a lot of fundamentalist christians.

And your opinion is just a belief, because you have no proof there are no UFOs from beyond our planet. And don't give me it is my place to prove it...nonsense. My belief is just about anything is possible.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
102. I believe 2+222. "And don't give me it is my place to prove it..."
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 07:16 PM
Dec 2020

I believe 2+2=22. And don't give me it is my place to prove it...nonsense. My belief is just about anything is possible.




Proof. Objective evidence. Peer review. ...all of it useless when it doesn't validate our faith.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
75. Anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers use identical arguments
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:27 PM
Dec 2020

because they have precisely the same amount of evidence and research supporting their goofball fantasies as the UFO whackadoodles; which is to say bupkis.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
90. You have no evidence
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 02:00 PM
Dec 2020

Of UFOs existing. No more than any anti-vaxxer has. Or the sources could be crazy people. Anti-vaxxers will refer us to websites and we go to those and find they are nutcase websites.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
94. I don't have evidence personally, but there is a voluminous amount out there
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:22 PM
Dec 2020

and not on lunatic sites. As I said, US and Russian astronauts witnessed objects they labeled not of earthly origin. Hundreds of former military people have come forward with information. Many of them testified at a press conference in DC in 2011. Comparing anti-vaxxers to UFO witnesses is ridiculous. You just have no idea what you are talking about so you spew nonsense.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
100. Whatever they saw might be explained
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 07:04 PM
Dec 2020

and if not explainable, does not prove that they are aliens. Just that the explanation hasn't been found yet.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
109. Operative word 'might". I never said "they" were aliens.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 08:45 PM
Dec 2020

I said there is decades worth of evidence for flying objects that demonstrate capabilities that our aircraft cannot achieve. Project Blue Book and the Condon Report both acknowledged cases they studied that could not be explained. Doesn't mean they are extra-terrestrial, but doesn't rule it out.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
103. Does credibility also require objective evidence rather than mere allegation as well?
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 07:18 PM
Dec 2020

Does credibility also require objective evidence to support a hypothesis rather than simply making allegations as well?

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
29. It is amazing people think the Earth is the only place in the universe with life.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 07:09 PM
Dec 2020

Reading posts it is clear the concept of other life in the universe threatens a lot of people.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
53. Lol, other life is not what people deny....
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 10:40 AM
Dec 2020

That they can travel here faster than the speed of light is the doubt.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
59. Exactly, and your research will reveal that in theory it is possible to travel FTL
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:09 AM
Dec 2020

or to get around it by warping space/time/gravity. Scientists on earth are working on the physics required, but a civilization hundreds, thousands, or millions of years more advanced can have solved them long ago.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
70. Nope, If they have discovered how to warp spacetime then the travel
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:09 PM
Dec 2020

between two points anywhere could be virtually instant.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
67. I think there's life elsewhere in the universe. I just don't think they're all...
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 01:07 PM
Dec 2020

probing people's anuses here on Earth.

What kind of arrogance does it take to think that Earth is the gathering place for all the extraterrestrial intelligence out there?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
91. True. If they knew about us, they might well ignore us.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 02:03 PM
Dec 2020

Seeing as we've messed up this planet. And populated it pretty well. If they have too many people and need emigration, they'd probably be able to find a newer planet with relatively few people on it.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
74. People Here Are Denying That?
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 06:26 PM
Dec 2020

Up to your post, I saw nobody suggesting life beyond this system is impossible, or even close to that.
The universe is so vast, and so old, I find it hard to believe there are not other advanced species. Call me an advocate of the Drake equation, if you'd like.
But, the likelihood of direct contact is extraordinarily low, even if it's simply this:
Why would a species advanced enough to master interstellar travel care one bit about our savage, child race?
From a parsec away, they'd be able to ID us as a waste of their time.
And, if they're a malevolent race, why wouldn't they just eradicate us from a couple hundred million miles out & repopulate the joint.
But, we get lizard people infiltrating and surreptitiously taking over.
Hence, I don't believe the Israeli rocket person. My interest in this specific topic right there.
Are there aliens? Much more likely than not.
Are they here? I say no way.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
76. People simultaneously posit races of aliens
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:01 PM
Dec 2020

of such vast intellect and technological sophistication that they can cross interstellar distances in the blink of an eye, but so useless that once they get here they just want to chop up cows and do downlow butt stuff in the back seat of their UFO. “Sorry, can’t host.”

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
82. Right With You!
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:57 PM
Dec 2020

Figured out reshaping of space to travel faster than c then need an anal probe instead of imaging.
Yeah, ok!
BTW: you forgot crop circles! Because even though there is video of people making them, it has to be aliens!

 

elevator

(415 posts)
97. Conjuring up armies of strawmen, and or women, as you and the poster above
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:54 PM
Dec 2020

seem wont to do in no way invalidates the serious research and evidence compiled over decades by hundreds of competent people.

 

elevator

(415 posts)
96. There are many possible reasons for an alien race to have an
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 06:48 PM
Dec 2020

interest in earth and it's inhabitants. Maybe intelligent life is much rarer than many scientists posit and they wish to observe and maybe even nurture. Really it is being quite presumptive to suppose we can in any way understand the motives
or motivations of a completely alien species.

Mostly I believe there are endless possibilities in an infinite universe. And while many things appear more likely than others, precluding anything is kinda silly to me because of our very limited knowledge.

Of course there are ways aliens could be here...you just lack the knowledge or imagination to know what they may be.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
31. Calling people lunatics etc. just because there's no proof isn't fair...it's like saying that is...
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 07:48 PM
Dec 2020

no disease until they discovered bacteria finally ... some people, man, I swear, have this fixation on show me the proof, etc. before they believe.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
43. Isn't part of science finding out what is unknown? I mean, we really don't know perhaps the....
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 02:32 AM
Dec 2020

precise value of like how many millions of earth like planets in the galaxy, let alone the universe? How many of these out of the trillions of earth like planets will develop life too? Give me a break. And by the way, I'm am an old time computer guy from almost day 1, so don't give me grief on what I believe and that is there is life out there...it's common sense, believe me. They are finding bacteria that can survive in conditions never imagined. How can then, you not believe? I do believe in science, and computers (I'm partial). I just think there's just as right to believe that there is something out there vs. there is a right to not believe, eh, 50%-50%, that is, it works both ways?

Silent3

(15,147 posts)
45. There was plenty of proof that disease existed before the *mechanism* of disease transmission...
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 03:58 AM
Dec 2020

...was understood. The existence of disease was not debated, just how disease spread.

And plenty of ideas (I won't abuse the word "theories" here) about how disease was spread turned out to be very, very wrong before a variety of transmission methods were discovered and proven, such as bacteria, viruses, genetic inheritance, etc.

Emphatically stating that you believe UFOs are intelligent alien visitors is not at all analogous to saying, "Yes, there is disease!". It's like fixating on "evil spirits" or "miasmas" as the cause of disease before better explanations were found.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
49. There's an enormous difference between acknowledging
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:27 AM
Dec 2020

the statistical likelihood of life existing beyond our own planet and idea that this Israeli nutfuck is in regular contact with the Galactic Federation and Trump wanted to spill the beans.

There’s almost certainly other intelligent life out there. The probability of it finding us or us finding it is mathematically daunting and exists primarily as the stuff of daydreams. Pretending there’s gonna be some ET Phone Home bullshit is stupid.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
34. The real truth is tRump held off so he could make a deal.....
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:11 PM
Dec 2020

with the aliens for golf resorts and trashy hotels on their planets.

He wants to become an intergalactic grifter.

KY............

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
48. "The Jerusalem Post was unable to reach out to this supposed Galactic Federation for comment"
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:52 AM
Dec 2020

Well played, JP .

"If I had come up with what I’m saying today five years ago, I would have been hospitalized," he explained to Yediot.

He added that "today, they’re already talking differently. I have nothing to lose. I’ve received my degrees and awards; I am respected in universities abroad, where the trend is also changing."

Eshed provided more information in his newest book, The Universe Beyond the Horizon – conversations with Professor Haim Eshed, along with other details such as how aliens have prevented nuclear apocalypses and "when we can jump in and visit the Men in Black." The book is available now for NIS 98.

https://m.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Well, Professor Eshed, there's still time for that hospitalization. You were respected; you've lost track of time, clearly. One symptom, I fear.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
57. Read this last night and thought . . .
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:02 AM
Dec 2020

Great! Just what we need is another Crazypants to add to the mix. Although I always find alien talk fun and interesting to speculate on, any addition of Donald Trump to the mix is a complete downer.

Unless, of course, we'd be willing to shoot Trump and his acolytes to Mars. That I could get on board with!

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
63. Cats.
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 11:38 AM
Dec 2020

They're the aliens. They have infiltrated the entire planet and enslaved humans to do their bidding.

lame54

(35,262 posts)
77. I don't want Trump and Netanyahu...
Tue Dec 8, 2020, 07:06 PM
Dec 2020

To represent us to the universe

They'll think we're all sadistic idiots

triron

(21,984 posts)
92. This may very well be. I believe extraterrestrial intelligence has quite possibly been
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 02:05 PM
Dec 2020

visiting earth for thousands of years.

DFW

(54,280 posts)
107. All these years, everyone got the ET soundtrack wrong. We thought he was saying "ET Home"
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 08:40 PM
Dec 2020

He was really saying. "E. T. Lachaim!"

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
112. One of my best friends
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 12:19 PM
Dec 2020

has opined for years now that Trump was installed as a distraction for something big happening behind the scenes that would be revealed soon after 2020.

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
114. A "galactic federation" has been waiting for humans to "reach a stage where we will understand...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 01:43 PM
Dec 2020

what space and spaceships are," Haim Eshed said.

Eshed said cooperation agreements had been signed between species, including an "underground base in the depths of Mars" where there are American astronauts and alien representatives.

"There is an agreement between the U.S. government and the aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments here," he said.

Eshed added that President Donald Trump was aware of the extraterrestrials' existence and had been "on the verge of revealing" information but was asked not to in order to prevent "mass hysteria."

"They have been waiting until today for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we will understand, in general, what space and spaceships are," Eshed said, referring to the galactic federation.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weird-news/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-extraterrestrials-exist-trump-knows-n1250333

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