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redstateblues
(10,565 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Unfortunately they've stopped making those so when it wears out he'll have to get something else to drive. We looked at the RAV 4 for my car last year but it is too big for our needs. If we want a big SUV, we have our old Suburban which doesn't get driven much. I got a Honda Fit which is not hybrid but gets as good mileage as my husband's Prius V without the worry of the battery pack (see below) going bad. Since I don't drive much - only have 1200 miles on my year old car - this may be the last car I ever buy for myself.
We had very bad luck with our older Prius sedan. We replaced the battery pack, it went bad a year later and was replaced under warranty. A year later that one went bad and took the computer with it. It would have cost more than the 2005 Prius was worth to fix it so we sold it to the mechanic who could do the work himself and get parts for much less than we could.
dansolo
(5,376 posts)I have the Hybrid and I love it.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)By the time we do, the availability and best choices will have changed.
Right now I am a bit partial to Hondas since a friend sells them. He got me a great deal for the Fit and daved me thousands of dollars.
Now that my husband is retired, his driving is cut way down. Normal times, he goes into town maybe three times a week and I go maybe two or three times a month. At that rate it will be four or five years before we have to replace the Prius, and ten or more years before the Fit will be broken in good.
The Suburban was purchased when we still needed a truck and only has 170 miles on it. We will keep it running for a long time - our last one got over 400,000 miles on it before it died. It's not worth it to me to sell it and it comes in handy like over the past couple of years with emptying both our parents' houses and now clearing a friend's apartment for his daughter
winstars
(4,220 posts)We think we don't want to buy it because we don't want to replace the battery pack in 2 or three years? Have heard stories that you need to get an OEM replacement battery pack for $5000 and not mess with 3rd party battery packs. The RAV 4 is great but we also feel its bigger than her need. Plus it would be difficult to fit with my Civic in our garage!
Tempted to keep it but the battery pack issues down the road scare us. To buy the car from the dealer is I think $15,000...
csziggy
(34,136 posts)So it lasted a long time. Problem is, we wanted to keep the old (2005) Prius for another 5-6 years.
Yeah, if we did it again I'd just pay Toyota to replace the battery pack. we went with the 3rd party and they just did not last. At least we didn't have the problem a friend had with his Prius V - he drove 300 miles to get his replaced with a 3rd party and it only lasted a couple of months. Now he's involved with court stuff since the company and dealer selling them is under investigation by the state attorney. Plus he still had to pay Toyota to replace it.
I was originally going to buy a Honda CRV since I'd read that they now have a hybrid version - but it is not being sold in this country yet. The Fit is a great little car - I get 35-40 mph with no special effort to lower the gas usage - but it is a little too small for my husband. Either driving or as a passenger he is really crunched up. Of course, that means he won't ever take it from me. It's got a ton of cargo space and is a pretty peppy even on the Eco mode.
Maybe by the time his Prius wears out the CRV hybrid will be available and we can try out one of those. We tried a Honda Pilot a year or two ago and it was too big for our needs. The CRV is halfway between the Fit and the Pilot so maybe it would be right right.
doc03
(35,325 posts)cancels out a lot of the gas savings you get. I know someone will say that's because the state loses money on gas tax.
Well here is my argument I could buy a conventional car that gets 15 MPG or buy one that gets 35 MPG but there isn't a tax penalty. How about charging for the weight of the vehicle that would save on road repairs if that is what gas tax is for. I think the hybrid penalty is more
big oil rather than road tax.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,587 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)BlueSpot
(855 posts)Hybrids also use gasoline and charge their electric engines via other means. Not sure about all by my Prius uses energy from braking and coasting to recharge. If I run out of electricity, the gasoline takes over. EVs are the plug in vehicles that get their electricity from an outlet. Warning, I may not be 100% correct on this but I think I have the basics right.
doc03
(35,325 posts)does too.
Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)It would make sense for plug-ins because the state loses gas taxes for any of your pure electric mileage.
If you were to drive a non-plug-in hybrid, all the power comes from gas, there is no loss of revenue.
I think my state, California, only charges if you use a plug.
I have a Volt.
doc03
(35,325 posts)Initech
(100,064 posts)But Honda had like no incentives for new car buyers and I got a better deal with Subaru than I ever could have with Honda, so that's who I went with.