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Wed Dec 16, 2020, 12:52 AM

Dr Eric Ding... Chaos has a price


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Reply Dr Eric Ding... Chaos has a price (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 OP
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #1
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #2
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #3
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #5
Hugin Dec 2020 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #11
Hugin Dec 2020 #16
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #19
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #8
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #10
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #4
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #6
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #9
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #12
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #13
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #15
Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #17
Spider Jerusalem Dec 2020 #18
Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #20
GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #14

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:25 AM

1. This is the result of Grotesque Orange Pustule.

That's not limited to the thing we voted out. The entire GOP cult worked to kill more U.S. citizens.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:29 AM

2. Why I'm happy that Biden picked a new covid team!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 02:59 AM

3. Imagine if the Obama/Biden playbook and team had not been discarded.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:22 PM

5. Not enough coffee...what playbook????

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:25 PM

7. There was a playbook and pandemic surveillance office in the WH.

Which was unceremoniously discarded and disbanded by Trump. Because, Obama. Even though it was W who started the process.

On edit: More here... https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/NSTC/towards_epidemic_prediction-federal_efforts_and_opportunities.pdf

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Response to Hugin (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:05 PM

11. Oh ok....Yes. I thought you meant REALLY thrown out and no one had a copy :) I also think about

Susan Rice. Because I heard her interviewed one time and she said she spent an
entire day briefing on pademic - guess who she briefed - Michael Flynn. Who was
fired weeks later. You KNOW he didn't train his successor. Always thought
this did NOT get any play on the news. Also thought it was an excellent slam
on Trump that we Dems didn't use.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:46 PM

16. ...

It was this particular issue that elicited my grudging respect for W and the realization he wasn't the complete nincompoop I'd thought he was.

Apparently, near the end of his term he'd read a book about the 1918 Flu pandemic while he was on vacation. He felt so strongly and was alarmed about it. Immediately upon his return to the WH he'd brought in an advisor and asked what could be done to prevent a situation like that from occurring in the future.

One of the items of highest priority he handed off to Obama was the project they'd come up with in the playbook and surveillance office. President Obama agreed and completed the project.

Trump trashed it all.

The bottom line is, if the playbook had been followed what has transpired over the last nine months and over 300,000+ American lives lost would have been largely avoided.

This has hardly been reported in the main stream media and is the primary reason Trump and his Republican enablers should not be allowed to walk away without major repercussions.

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Response to Hugin (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

19. Interesting... And thanks ! You should start an OP about this!

You are SO right... No media play on this. God I miss leaders that care.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:02 PM

10. Thanks !

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:45 AM

4. so per capita the USA is doing better than Italy and the UK and worse than France

 

raw numbers don't say anything if you don't account for what percentage of the population those numbers represent.

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:24 PM

6. Excellent Point. Just like when they tally ALL covid cases ever. It should be "active cases"

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 03:06 PM

9. Raw numbers say USA is #1 in death and grief due to covid-19

Let's not forget what those numbers are, please.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:41 PM

12. Except it isn't if other countries have lost a larger proportion of their populations

 

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 05:59 PM

13. So, 300k+ people dead is not more than 180k+?

Those raw numbers do say something.




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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:31 PM

15. Proportionally, no, it isn't

 

the USA has 330 million people; the UK has 65 million. 64,500*5=322,500>300,479. There is a reason numbers like this are usually represented as "per 100K population".

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:51 PM

17. Tell it to the families.

You said, "raw numbers don't say anything if you don't account for what percentage of the population those numbers represent."

We're done.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 07:02 PM

18. yeah, sorry you're incapable of understanding the concept of "per capita"

 

also I am pretty sure that British and Italian and French etc families who've lost someone to covid are just as devastated as American ones (strange but true fact, Americans are not actually the only people on the planet!)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2020, 06:10 PM

14. Interesting that that the top 3 are countries run by right-wing strongmen.

I would love to see where Russia actually fits in, but we will never see accurate numbers from them. At least not while Putin is around.

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