In case you were curious, here's the lot Jarvankas want to buy

[dixiegrrrrl]

Last edited Wed Dec 16, 2020, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Something like 1.8 acre, for 31.8 million asking, private Island with few residents, 24 hour police, guarded and gated.
can you imagine what their house would look like?
It's an open secret she wants to run for some sort of public office in Fla. and is establishing residency, altho the New York house will be theirs also.

Really good pics of the area. I esp. like noting how close to zero sea level it all is even now.
In a few years, everyone there will get a lesson on how and why those little islands were formed.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/M5581279739

[gibraltar72]

1. Believe you're missing a 1 in that number.

[jmbar2]

2. $31,800, 000!

[dixiegrrrrl]

40. thanx...correcting.....n/t

[The Genealogist]

3. I'm actually not very curious

One rock for them to slither under is pretty much like any other rock.

[wishstar]

4. The price of that lot is $31.8 million

[TheBlackAdder]

57. And you know whatever they build on it will be as tacky as 💩

[Hamlette]

5. 31.8 Million, not 3.8

[jeffreyi]

6. Must have an elaborate sewage removal system.

I was going to say, how do they do septic tanks on those sites, then I remembered I am a lower middle class country bumpkin and duh rich people probably pump everything out.

[mr_lebowski]

7. Listing says $31.8M not $3.8M ...

Looks like a pretty nice spot I gotta admit, but at that price? With no house? That's freaking absurd.

And NOT what I would choose if I had 31.8M to throw around though, hell no ... I'd be on the CA coast for sure.

Or maybe an actual tropical island, not this wannabe island bullshit.

[Raven]

8. That for 31 million? What's that huge building next door?

[Totally Tunsie]

12. It's their neighbor's house.

[crazylikafox]

20. Looks like a Motel 6

Really ugly

[dixiegrrrrl]

41. Living on a beach but having your own pool......

sheesh.

[electric_blue68]

55. Very dull looking

[malaise]

9. It's takes a brave person to buy that flat land

given the increasing number of hurricanes and the increasing strength of said hurricanes.

[cojoel]

19. And of course the inundation due to rising sea levels

I guess since they deny climate change they wouldn't think about hurricanes or rising seas.

[malaise]

32. They will learn

[electric_blue68]

56. Heh. I sure hope they REALLY do in the worst way

[moonscape]

48. There will be an insurance

scam involved at some point.

[dixiegrrrrl]

42. talk about living in a bubble......

Insurance must be stratospheric.

[magicarpet]

51. Not brave,... just well insured,... home and flood.

Storm gets it,... rebuild,... the insurance covers all damage costs. The next storm gets it,... rebuild,... the insurance covers it,.. a free rebuild, update, and remodel no charge. Ad infinitum - next storm, full rebuild coverage costs by insurance company.

So in essence those home owners not subject to flood and storm damage subsidize the houses that are. If you have an ocean view and the ocean tears your house apart you just rebuild and rebuild each time it happens and someone else picks up most of the rebuilding costs.

There should be storm damage and flood damage zones where rebuilding is not permitted because it is prone to habitual damages by rising ocean tides, storms, hurricanes, or floods.

By ignoring man made global weather change the incidences will surely rise for costal damages to seaside housing.

[dixiegrrrrl]

60. Flood insurance is extremely expensive

difficult to get if you live in a flood zone.


sorta the opposite would be landslide insurance, don't even know if that is a real thing, but more landslides are happening, esp.following forest fires.

Higher strong ocean tides are also undermining cliff walls that hold up very expensive property.

[mr_lebowski]

10. For a tiny fraction of that lot + the house they'll build on it ... I'd take something like this ...

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4-NE-San-Antonio-Ave_Carmel_CA_93921_M19477-36234

[royable]

27. Very beautiful place!

except for the wires and cables strung between telephone poles in the way of the seaside view.

Pay an extra half million to have all the wires and cables put underground?

Yes, seems idiotic for jarvanka to pay all that money to live in a flood zone.

[5X]

11. Looks like a dike all the way around it and it is below sea level.

[AmericanCanuck]

13. Prime feature -- easy getaway to the Caribbean in the dark

[Irish_Dem]

14. Blood money buying the land and new house. Folklore says it will be haunted.

There will be death and calamity associated with it.

Not me saying this, but tales from my Celtic ancestors.

[LakeArenal]

24. Well if not haunted now, it will be by the time Jarvanka are done with it.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Maybe 300,000 dead Americans will visit them. nt

[LakeArenal]

38. Fair is fair.

[enid602]

15. ad

The ad in realtor.com shows a $31,800,000 asking price. Pretty pricey for a lot that will be underwater soon.

[dixiegrrrrl]

43. Florida is infamous for selling underwater lots........n/t

[nolabear]

16. Says it's pending. I hope she got outbid.

[CatMor]

17. I don't think it's that exceptional at all ...

just flat land with some trees. 31.8 million seems way overpriced but the wealthy always overpay for everything.

[Elwood P Dowd]

18. How long before it's under water?

With sea levels rising due to global warming and increasing strong hurricanes, that is definitely not a wise long term investment. Oh well, these idiots believe it's a big hoax so let them find out the hard way.

[bullimiami]

21. thats a pretty good location. julio iglesias had a very nice place right at the end of the road.

hopfully they will be busy with their court cases and wont get much enjoyment out of it.

[MLAA]

22. With climate change I can't imagine anyone buying ocean/inter coastal front property.

[Irish_Dem]

39. The state and feds keep bailing out the fat cat luxury beach homes.

They assume they are going to be OK.

[MLAA]

50. True, true.

However I think it will catch up to them before too long.

[Irish_Dem]

52. So much evil has to create a dark future for eternity. n/t

[csziggy]

23. I bet when the waters rise they will be like Stiltsville

If I were stupid enough and had enough money to buy into coastal property in Florida, that's what I would plan for.

Stiltsville is a group of wood stilt houses located one mile south of Cape Florida, on sand banks of the Safety Valve on the edge of Biscayne Bay in Miami-Dade County, Florida. The structures stand on wood or reinforced concrete pilings, generally ten feet above the shallow water, which varies from one to three feet deep at low tide.


View from the Cape Florida Light



Stiltsville's frontier era ended with Hurricane Betsy in 1965. Beginning in August 1965, the state of Florida required building owners to pay $100 annually to lease their quarter-acre circular "campsites." No permits for new construction were issued, and structures that sustained more than 50-percent damage could not be rebuilt. Building codes were implemented and the state banned commercial operations after 1969.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiltsville

I'd build my house on deeply based pylons with the living floor level well above the current highest known storm surge. I'd also build it to withstand 150-200 mph winds with self sustained power and alternate sewage handling. Water might be a problem, maybe research desalination methods.

Note: My husband attended a party back in the late 1970s, early 1980s at the A-Frame house mentioned in the article and visible in the picture from Wikipedia above. A friend of a friend knew the family that owned it and had owned it since it was originally built.

[dixiegrrrrl]

46. I've been bitching about same down here in Mobile....

A sand spit called Dauphin Island has had same kind of problem.
Nature made sand spits moveable over time, the tide comes in at an angle, moving sand, in this case, to the west.
Hurricanes wash away the sand.

so houses, then hurricanes, then homeowners demanding insurance rebuilds the houses, till the next hurricane..
over and over and over. Finally the number of houses get reduced, by not enough tho.
Katrina came thru and made the sand spit into 2 sand spits.
The state would not support new house building.

I haven't seen any recent pics of the place after the 3 hurricanes that hit it this year, but I imagine there's not enuff money to support the few houses that remain, if they remain at all.

[LakeArenal]

25. Neighbors must be worried about their property values slumping when they buy.

[Ziggysmom]

26. Maybe they'll built something like the Winchester mansion

To keep away the spirits of the dead they stepped on during their climb up the financial ladder.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/527411/14-haunting-facts-about-winchester-mystery-house

[dixiegrrrrl]

59. that is the first I have seen of the entire house

What an odd compulsion she had.

[LeftInTX]

28. Here's the island

It's the green upside down triangle behind the barrier island. I've heard the east coast of FL is much less vulnerable to storm surge because the shelf drops off quickly, whereas the gulf coast (all of the gulf coast for that matter) is vulnerable to storm surge because of the huge, shallow continental shelf

[Fiendish Thingy]

34. Any guesses how long until the island is underwater due to climate change? 10-20 years?

[SeattleVet]

29. There's plenty of secure lodging for them at a nice tropical island location...

Very secure, right on the water, and room for the entire family and all of their friends!

[Elwood P Dowd]

44. Here is another suitable location for people like them.

[dixiegrrrrl]

58. "One of a kind private Island living, all expenses paid"

I could support that as his future location.

[msongs]

30. small property and will be under water soon (sooner pending hurricane) nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

33. Hope they don't get too attached- asset forfeiture may be in their future. Nt

[marmar]

35. More Florida Men/Women on the way!

[katmondoo]

36. Looks like a boring place to stay. After a few months what do you do ?

[Leith]

37. Is that close to Bay Harbor?

Those of us who have never been to Miami, but are fans of Dexter are smiling just a little right now.

[keithbvadu2]

45. Almost Tangier Island

[Paladin]

47. Enjoy the hurricanes, kids. (nt)

[JudyM]

49. It says the flood factor is 10/10.

You can guess what I’m thinking.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

53. Right next door to a Russian billionaire

The house at 3 Indian Creek Road, just to the left of Jarvanka's lot, was sold in 2012 to a Russian billionaire in 2012.

[wackadoo wabbit]

54. It's gone up more than $10 million in the last 6 years?!

That's a pretty sizable increase for a lot that's going to be underwater in the next decade or so.