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...Bidens transition teamA top Biden official was unaware of the directive. Administration officials left open the possibility cooperation would resume after a holiday pause. The officials were unsure what prompted Millers action, or whether President Trump approved, Axios reported.
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Blocking the transition could have slowed down vaccine rollout. But they didnt care, the group said in a tweet. Pausing Pentagon cooperation with the transition could put people in danger. But they dont care.
[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/pentagon-in-shock-as-trumps-new-defense-chief-orders-a-department-wide-halt-to-cooperation-with-bidens-transition-team-report/|]
In the middle of a Pandemic and a massive Russian hack sure lets just national security even more at risk, cause nazi fuckers be nazi fuckers... heh.
Wicked Blue
(5,826 posts)They really want to destroy our country, seems to me.
Delmette2.0
(4,163 posts)2naSalit
(86,502 posts)paleotn
(17,901 posts)This is what we've been dealing with for decades. The only difference is they're open about it. They want to turn us into the greatest authoritarian kleptocracy the planet has ever seen.
We all need to wake up to the fact that these people are the sworn enemies of democracy. And should be treated as such. Not congress people or senators. Sworn enemies.
RAB910
(3,496 posts)that attack was worse than Pearl Harbor and will harm our nations for at least a decade. I wonder how many bitcoins it will cost President Biden to get all our nation's top secrets back from Putin
Marcuse
(7,465 posts)wnylib
(21,417 posts)It was deliberate. It was planned. It was treasonous.
RAB910
(3,496 posts)Jim__
(14,072 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)drumpf ought to have been indicted after Mueller and removed after indictment by the House / Senate
Hundreds of thousands have died due to his incompetence and murderous petty mind.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)At this point it seems a long ways away but it will happen.
Then the problem will be to deal with the millions of his voters who have bought his lies and propaganda. I personally know some of them very well. They're not going to change their minds. This administration completed the job of reprogramming their brains over the last 4 years - the job that Fox, Limbaugh, Carlson and televangelists began some time ago.
Cosmo Blues
(2,476 posts)Other people will find out about your cooperation with the Saudis in war crimes in Yemen, leaking nuclear secrets to the Saudis, the deals they have made with Arab countries to acknowledge the existence of Israel, are only a few of the things that if made public would be embarrassing. That doesn't even begin to lift the lid on the depth of the cooperation with Russia
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Marcuse
(7,465 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Bucky
(53,986 posts)Even if it's weird how many Russian spies are able to get onboard a submarine.
Curtis
(348 posts)When enough US troops refuse to do Trump's bidding, and Putin tells Trump, "hey, I have an army that will back you." What is going to happen then?
What would happen then?
Here's what would happen, any foreign army headed towards the US would be destroyed long before they reached US shores, or even airspace.
The US military will not stand by and let foreign troops invade, much less occupy, America, it's ridiculous to think otherwise.
They have been talking about invoking the Insurrection Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807 to keep Trump in office.
This is NOT a joke. People need to start taking this seriously:
MAGA leaders call for the troops to keep Trump in office
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/18/trump-insurrection-act-presidency-447986
Turin_C3PO
(13,941 posts)I'm not going to lose sleep based on some MAGA loons' crazy ideas. Biden will take office Jan. 20th, right on schedule. Bookmark this thread.
blue-wave
(4,347 posts)And yes, I will bookmark!
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)If martial law was ever instituted, every pro-Democratic website would be shut down. They would lock down and control the internet in a heart beat.
calimary
(81,179 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2020, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)
Just my suspicion. But if its the operative mentality here, I say FUCK THAT SHIT.
trump has used intimidation and his dearest love (DOMINANCE, DAMMIT!!!) to force his will on others. When it was just bullying and short-sheeting contractors and subcontractors on his damn hotel projects or creditors he cant pay or simply doesnt want to/doesnt think he should have to, thats whats always worked before.
Hes not used to anyone saying NO to him. Everybody/Everything has always bowed to him, accommodated him/given him what he demanded. Until now.
Now, he faces an absolute. Now he faces something he cant bully or threaten or make deals for or lie and distort his way out of. The calendar says hes OVER AND OUT at NOON ON JANUARY 20th. And there is NOTHING - repeat - NOTHING - he can do to change that or stop it or even delay it.
For the first time, hes facing something that is WAY bigger than he is, and that he cant manipulate or bend to his will, and which he can do NOTHING to change.
And let me tell ya - he does NOT like being put into a position of helplessness.
blue-wave
(4,347 posts)My guess is this is his way of keeping the base riled up until after the senate election in Georgia.
dware
(12,325 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)Just because its never happened here, does not mean it won't. After 2016, and since, how can anyone be so sure?
McEnany scares me with how confident she seemed about Trump's second term. And a few others, like Pompeo.
For the sake of argument, lets say he gets enough Trump supporting generals to obey the order. Promised to have a privileged position in the new Trump Gilead States of America. And his SCOTUS even comes through for him, after they realize the opportunity.
That Mitch, Lindsey, all the GOP leadership sees this is the "now or never" moment. Maybe they have crimes that will be exposed under a Biden administration. Even treasonous crimes working with Russia. So much so that they are willing to go "all in".
All it would take ls a handful of influential power laden officials, just as all it took was one principled general to squash a coup attempt ie Gen. Smedley Butler back in 1933.
I think many would be out on the streets. But whatever violence, property damage occurs, would be highlighted in order to get more public sympathy to quell the "riots". Republicans have set up that narrative already. And if you thought the Proud Boys, and the other White supremacists, and militias were bold now, just wait until they are presented with the call to arms by THEIR President, the legitimate President, to defend the streets from wild crazy communist AntiFa terrorists?
yonder
(9,662 posts)Hatched from the same clutch in any case.
spanone
(135,803 posts)spanone
(135,803 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,020 posts)Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller has ordered the Pentagon to halt cooperation with the Biden transition team, Axios reported Friday.
A Pentagon official said that the reason was that the staff involved in the transition is overwhelmed.
The start of the transition was delayed, limiting the time to complete necessary tasks, and the senior Pentagon leader in charge of the transition was installed after a purge of the departments civilian leadership and has been on the job a little over a month.
Cooperation will likely restart sometime after the holidays, a Pentagon official told Axios.
Marcuse
(7,465 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,401 posts)Tanuki
(14,916 posts)is too "overwhelmed," incompetent, and chaotic to do anything at all, even schedule some routine meetings to insure that the upcoming transition goes smoothly. They've also made it clear that this is one more thing about which they will reflexively lie.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)Does anyone know for sure?
DFW
(54,328 posts)Where are all our supposedly anti-rooski Republican heroes now?
Why, cheering it all on.
So much for their anti-kommanism.
jcgoldie
(11,625 posts)... before anyone sees it.
c-rational
(2,590 posts)regulations regarding the spread of disinformation, and better means of spreading truth.
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)Targeting the electric grid? How about massive credit card meddling - if everyone suddenly has 300 bogus charges on their cards we'd spend months cleaning it up. How about the USPS. They seemingly can't move much mail, everything I've mailed sits for 7-10 days going nowhere. Have they been hacked? Because they're updating tracking info infrequently.
Flynn advises to declare martial law? Are Russian troops on the way to help keep the peace? This just goes more off the rails every day. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
Evolve Dammit
(16,719 posts)Nevilledog
(51,055 posts)Link to tweet
Yamiche Alcindor
@Yamiche
Confirming @jonathanvswan's reporting: Officials tell me Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller's actions are NOT routine. This could have an impact on distributing the COVID vaccine and with the US in multiple wars and fielding daily threats, the transition needs to be smooth.
Jonathan Swan
@jonathanvswan
Contrary to this Pentagon spin, there was NOTHING routine about this decision. Senior Trump officials have been furious at the Biden team, privately blaming them for leaks, and this decision was discussed last night with the White House.
Link to tweet
9:52 AM · Dec 18, 2020
Diraven
(506 posts)That doesn't seem like it would be good for national security...
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)LaMouffette
(2,020 posts)and claim that telling them to halt cooperation is an illegal order?
malaise
(268,846 posts)That is all
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)How much more evidence could possibly be necessary?
Bucky
(53,986 posts)After that, he'll go back to undermining democracy and basic civility, as per usual.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)Just say theyre suspected foreign actors or say theyve committed gross misconduct (by aligning with Trump, that is genuinely irrefutable) and get rid. I no longer think they should be reassigned to poop scooper or paper shredder - even those roles are too dangerous.
JHB
(37,158 posts)For some of them, no.
But what can happen is isolating them, like a cyst: assign them to some division or project in separate facilities with no access nor ability to affect real information and policy. And then, gosh, that project gets zeroed out of the budget as a cost-cutting measure and they have to move on.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)TygrBright
(20,755 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)before they're out of there in January.
Also, makes it much easier for Trump to sell classified info with no interference.
marlakay
(11,443 posts)Election of the senators....
LiberalFighter
(50,826 posts)AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)the media always sounds like they are reviewing a Project Runway avant-garde collection!
What about describing it like it is: "seditious!"
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Before the Biden people can see them.
That is why Trump put his own lackeys in as heads of their respective departments.