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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNever in my lifetime did I think a sitting President would seriously discuss a military coup...
https://www.axios.com/trump-officials-alarmed-overturn-election-results-a844d1d2-acb2-47a9-87ce-ac579458b1ea.htmlSNIP
A senior administration official said that when Trump is "retweeting threats of putting politicians in jail, and spends his time talking to conspiracy nuts who openly say declaring martial law is no big deal, its impossible not to start getting anxious about how this ends."
Yes, granted, I do not think this article or anything in the NY Times or Washington Post specifically says "military coup" but that's what all this adds up to. Using the military to obtain purely political objectives, such as staying in office. Banana republic type stuff.
ETA: Yes, I know the top brass of the military has stated several times they will not cooperate with any such nonsense. I am not worried about that, at all. My concern is that a President is even being ALLOWED to discuss it, without being removed posthaste. He should have been removed, legally, by now.
Will any Republican advocate the 25th Amendment, tell him to resign NOW, or tell him to cut the shit ? Nope. If Romney does, I'd be surprised, but on the national level he's probably the most likely to tell him to resign publicly. A trip with a few Republican Senators to the White House a la 1974 Goldwater to tell him to resign ? Not happening.
We have some very serious work ahead. The country has very serious work ahead, to reinforce our democratic ideals, principles and norms.
JI7
(89,239 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'd be a lot more worried if there was ANY indication they would.
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Layzeebeaver
(1,613 posts)They have impeded working with the transition.
dware
(12,250 posts)it's Pissolini's stooge at the DoD that's doing it, not the JCoS.
Layzeebeaver
(1,613 posts)Career vs political? Who really chooses?
dware
(12,250 posts)members of the military using back channels.
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)an impeached criminal president, a convicted felon and a crack pot attorney whose work is supported financially by the my pillow guy and needs to be disbarred....its nutty!
woodsprite
(11,904 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)onetexan
(13,020 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)this I believe
Kitchari
(2,165 posts)I agree
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)DBoon
(22,340 posts)and any who doesn't should be removed from office
still_one
(92,061 posts)the military has enlisted some of that demographic likewise
Trump has recently put some controversial people in roles in the Pentagon, and while I am not prone to conspiracy speculation, there are enough things and words that have been done that have me very concerned, and I will remain so until after inuaguration
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)It is against the oath they take to the constitution...period
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)But an overthrow of the government is nothing more than a Q wet dream.
still_one
(92,061 posts)malaise
(268,693 posts)They have discussed it and executed it for other democracies for well over a century on behalf of the same oligarchs who have way too much power today.
What needs to be answered is what is the meaning of national interest? Whose interests?
Until that is resolved we are all in danger
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)They are not going to participate in any coup that would give him more power. They can't wait to see the end of him. If they loved him it would be a different story. But no, this isn't going to happen, thank God.
malaise
(268,693 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Term limits for congress, yadda yadda all obvious AF stuff first.
patphil
(6,150 posts)gordianot
(15,233 posts)He can no longer plead the 5th a skilled interrogator would destroy him.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)in favor of Democracy. Trump lost. His fall is getting harder and harder. He is throwing shit onto his family brand. His family will be the ones to stop him. If Ivanka could be convinced her dad is destroying them, that would really help.
Thekaspervote
(32,705 posts)wnylib
(21,339 posts)to avoid the consequences of being out of office, he will try anything. Doesn't mean he will succeed, but I think he might actually try to call a national emergency, claiming that Biden is carrying out a socialist takeover of the US.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)What if he manages to get his greasy fingers on the "red button"?
triron
(21,984 posts)dware
(12,250 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)How is this not a crime?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)and live in his own twisted reality show/fantasy world of horror.
The media has paid WAY too much attention to him for four years. We all have - he deserves NONE.
His followers are off their rockers as well....a cult.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)DFW
(54,281 posts)Gerald Gardner once portrayed Nixon discussing something with some US military high-up with the caption, "but we can't bomb Washington." It was meant as a joke at the time.
Only the fact that far right Republicans in 1974 made it clear that they would vote for removal from office, if an impeachment vote got as far as the Senate, finally convinced Nixon to resign. It helped, after Agnew's departure, that Nixon had selected the moderate, and well-respected Gerry Ford as VP, so that everyone was relieved to see Nixon go.
Everyone knows that Pence is almost as much of a nut case as Trump, so the mere action of abandoning the presidency wouldn't reassure anyone. Besides, these days, a Republican president could dump a planeload of anthrax on Boston, and a majority of Republican Senators would cheer and justify it as necessary collateral damage on the Senate floor.
It has been a latent malignancy in the Republican Party since McCarthy, and now the simmering infection has once again erupted in full force.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)I think he knows something huge is coming legally from NY state. If not, he would be content to just say the election was rigged, then go golf, grift, and back to his life before he was elected. He is utterly desperate to hold on to power so there must be more to it.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)and moving said company to another part of the world to make better profits.
The U.S. has never worried itself about over throwing other governments (never mind who was in charge in the US.). Why should it worry itself about overthrowing itself. Just part of the global scheme of things, whatever turns a larger profit for its share holders (Which is usually the executives).
NoMoreRepugs
(9,371 posts)military court martials Flynn for sedition?
Demovictory9
(32,421 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)This should have the same media attention as an attack on American soil
OldkySoul
(38 posts)this orange mindless thing in the WH moves the line farther away from what was acceptable from the day before. God only knows how far he may push it by Jan. 20th. I worry about his cult like followers after this is all over. A huge chunk of my family believes every single lie he spews. I always generally disliked him when I was growing up and now I'm 52 and despise him for the pain and sorrow he's inflicted on our country and its great people.