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Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:42 PM

So disillusioned with the country. Where we are.

Where the people who have 6 yachts and 2 planes talking about 600 dollars is enough to help people who lost a job 9 months ago.
The level of greed and the lack of humanity and compassion in this country just makes me physically ill. America IS the shithole country that can afford to support her people but canít be bothered to care. How many millions of people needed food banks to eat on Christmas. Those millions are out of their minds knowing in 4 days eviction paperwork will be filed in the courts. 320,000 dead people is just a hoax...
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Reply So disillusioned with the country. Where we are. (Original post)
onecaliberal Dec 26 OP
brush Dec 26 #1
llashram Dec 26 #2
onecaliberal Dec 26 #6
I_UndergroundPanther Dec 26 #49
Va Lefty Dec 26 #3
RANDYWILDMAN Dec 26 #39
MustLoveBeagles Dec 26 #4
Freedomofspeech Dec 26 #5
IsItJustMe Dec 27 #54
Post removed Dec 26 #7
NRaleighLiberal Dec 26 #8
Irish_Dem Dec 26 #9
onecaliberal Dec 26 #22
Irish_Dem Dec 26 #29
I_UndergroundPanther Dec 26 #52
Irish_Dem Dec 26 #53
NoRoadUntravelled Dec 26 #10
appalachiablue Dec 26 #33
smirkymonkey Dec 26 #11
richdj25 Dec 26 #12
onecaliberal Dec 26 #14
OMGWTF Dec 26 #40
Tommymac Dec 26 #21
appalachiablue Dec 26 #34
jalan48 Dec 26 #13
onecaliberal Dec 26 #15
jalan48 Dec 26 #16
DanieRains Dec 26 #17
onecaliberal Dec 26 #19
OMGWTF Dec 26 #42
BarbD Dec 26 #18
Initech Dec 26 #20
58Sunliner Dec 26 #23
Moostache Dec 26 #24
onecaliberal Dec 26 #30
dutch777 Dec 26 #35
onecaliberal Dec 26 #38
dutch777 Dec 26 #46
OMGWTF Dec 26 #43
Hulk Dec 26 #25
Hulk Dec 26 #26
pazzyanne Dec 26 #27
onecaliberal Dec 26 #31
pazzyanne Dec 26 #47
Jon King Dec 26 #28
Duppers Dec 26 #32
RANDYWILDMAN Dec 26 #44
Duppers Dec 26 #45
Evolve Dammit Dec 26 #36
JI7 Dec 26 #37
RVN VET71 Dec 26 #41
pazzyanne Dec 26 #48
marmar Dec 26 #50
Yavin4 Dec 26 #51

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

1. K&R. So true.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:52 PM

2. 320,00 and counting, I believe there are many, many more

and those with lingering symptoms after exposure are surely in the hundreds of thousands also. Rich decadent people, unlike the Gates et al, do not give a damn about us struggling out here just to eat... That yo-yo who set off that bomb in Nashville probably support those 6 yacht Epstein aficionados and their idiot POTUS grifting them, some into poverty I'm sure. And they will say Democrats are responsible for their poverty... as some say here, "can't fix stupid'.

They are utterly corrupt and their minds numb to all suffering. After all, they aren't suffering

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Response to llashram (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

6. This is why I can't try to understand them. I despise them with a red hot passion.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 08:53 PM

49. I am the same

I dispise the right wing the crazy fundies,the right-wing ceos,the magats and every narcissist sociopath and authoritarian asshole on earth.

If it becomes a war and I seriously hope we can avert it, and the destruction happens ,kill all those evil hearted ,wealthy selfish,greedy amoral,dark triad personality pigfuckers,every last one.

We cannot be tolerating the intolerable forever.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:53 PM

3. Always plenty of $$ for military

A big FU to the homeless and the hungry

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:37 PM

39. For outside contractors and Gear not for soldiers !!

Always for the higher up and never for the worker bee's

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

4. K&R

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

5. I totally agree.

Not that this nation has ever been anywhere near perfect but I feel like we are becoming a third world country.
This is the DU member formerly known as Freedomofspeech.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:31 AM

54. Kind of scary. Isn't it. A third world banana republic with lots of nukes.

Gee, what could go wrong?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 12:59 PM

8. money and/or power corrupt.

This is the DU member formerly known as NRaleighLiberal.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:03 PM

9. They're afraid if people get more than $600 they will never work again.

The elite is terrified of losing their worker bees.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:54 PM

22. Not enough for one month of rent or food let alone anything else.

These pigs spend 600 on one lunch. 🤬

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:17 PM

29. Exactly. They spend more than that for a hair cut. nt

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 09:00 PM

52. It is because the worker bees

Make the money happen. They abuse worker bees terrorize them until they forget they are being robbed of thier lives,thier families,health,mental health and power.

Keep em poor and busy soon they'll accept slavery. Abuse Awful work conditions,hunger,death misery and work(produce) until the moment of death.

If there were no Dems or anyone else who cares we'd live like the cattle at factory farms.


This is what these racists want to abuse people for profit to murder,rape,pollute and destroy everyone else but thier own and get away with it all.

That's what happens when dark triad monsters get power.

The right wing platform is
inhumane,destructive,classist,sociopathicc and abusive. Because that's who these monsters are.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #52)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 09:03 PM

53. Exactly. You said it perfectly. nt

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:11 PM

10. K&R

This is cause for deep shame.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:09 PM

33. Thread winner; it definitely is. For shame

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:13 PM

11. K&R

Exactly what you said! Just makes me so sad and angry.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:29 PM

12. Can't just lay this at the feet of

the wealthy. Many people like you and me vote in a manner (GOP) that takes away from the poor/middle class and give to the rich.

Some of you have family, friends and neighbors who worship the wealthy, and racism with their ballots.

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Response to richdj25 (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:35 PM

14. I have never supported a repig and I never will.

Yes, some of us are related to these people. You canít choose the family youíre born into, I will not be associated with any of them or their actions. My feelings are not a mystery to anyone I am related to, friends-with, or work beside. I will not be blamed for how they vote. Theyíre anti American scum to me. All of them. It doesnít stop me from taking actions that I can to help those who most need. Iím sick of being blamed for the stupid in this country.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:50 PM

40. I, too, am sick to death of being locked in a room with the slow learners.

But this Trumpism sh!t is beyond anything I've ever seen in my long, long life. These people are mean AND stupid.

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Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:10 PM

34. Third gen Democrat, voting Repub isn't happening close to moi

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:32 PM

13. Income inequality. Talking about class politics is difficult in the US because the media

and the politicians blow the "Socialism" dog whistle.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:36 PM

15. You would think after all of this time people who figure it out.

Mind boggling to me.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:39 PM

16. Me too. It makes sense though, if citizens understand what is really going on the "Too big to fail"

argument dissolves into a pile of goo.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:42 PM

17. The More Americans Trump Hurts The Happier His Cult Is

Because a lot of the people being hurt are "liberals".

Sad....

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Response to DanieRains (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:52 PM

19. Many of those hurt are the cultists themselves.

At least the liberals arenít stupid enough to vote against their own interests.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:53 PM

42. MAGAts are willing to die for their Lard (sic) and Savior.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:45 PM

18. It's easy to become overwhelmed with the pain, misery, and disfunction that surrounds us.

But we cannot allow this darkness to extinguish our hope.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:53 PM

20. Yup, we've turned into the shithole countries we used to mock and declare war against.

Hell we even have our own terrorist groups now. Fun times!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:58 PM

23. Malevolent and sadistic.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:02 PM

24. There is a very simple, proven solution to this...

Tax.
The.
Rich.

The party slogan should be EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD:
"We want to make the rich poorer and the poor more comfortable."


In practice, we need to talk about strengthening the social security promises and safety nets at the same time we RAISE THE FLOOR for what it means to be an "American".

Top marginal bracket should be 91% and any cuts should be to the bottom up, not the top down.

Billionaires should NOT exist, period. There is no justifiable situation to explain or justify Jeff Bezos while he operates a virtual monopoly and slavery operation to squeeze performance from people without commensurate compensation as a percentage of the gross in-take... Millionaires should be paying Eisenhower-level taxes, but billionaires should be taxed out of existence, period.

Corporations should be beholden to their communities in a symbiotic relationship where the corporation benefits and out-sized profits are repaid to the shareholders, the board and executives AND the staff and line-level employees WITH the local communities in a virtuous cycle instead of extracted from them in a vicious cycle and hoarded by the top 0.1% of the country.

Politicians should be chosen BY the voters, not the other way around through gerrymandering and nonsense. Additionally, the right to vote is primary in this system of governance - it should be universally available to all registered voters online, by mail, in person or via any means that makes the ability to cast a ballot easier and more universally available.

Congress should be reconfigured to reflect the economic reality of the country and NOT the currently out-sized representation of the millionaires only. There should be an economic salary cap applied to the parties and they should have to find and run candidates across the entire economic and political spectrum.

Money is NOT speech and corporations are NOT people - at not until an entire corporate board is imprisoned and stripped of all wealth in retribution for the practices of said corporations...campaigns also must be shrunk in size, scope and length to no more than 30 days prior to a primary and 45 days prior to a general. Violations are to be handled harshly and promptly.

Candidates for public office do not retain privacy rights to their financial dealings and crimes. No tax returns? No ballot access. EVER.

Healthcare is a RIGHT, not a profit-center. And if that means nationalized research and development alongside single payer system, then so be it. Make. It. Happen.



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Response to Moostache (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:20 PM

30. This, all of this!

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Response to Moostache (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:20 PM

35. At the risk of being critical of Dems...

...when we get power, we don't wield it well. Until we push through substantive changes as proposed by Moostache, and the people can see the good it does, the great DC stall by Repubs can continue with all too much public support. LBJ was certainly not our best President, but he knew how to play power politics and I just don't see that coming from Schumer or Pelosi. I think Nancy has done a great job and maintained a cool head through a very long dark storm but someone harder edged is needed and we certainly need the Senate and probably a greater majority in the House. And all this is even harder when even with record voter turnout and such a stark contrast between candidates, there were still some 60+ million eligible Americans so disengaged from the process that they didn't vote.

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Response to dutch777 (Reply #35)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:36 PM

38. Those are the folks we need to try to find and figure out why they can't/dont/won't engage.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 06:20 PM

46. I totally agree

I know some folks have a lot going on in their lives that they can't deal even with one more thing. And there are those that just assume all politicians, no matter their stripe, are crooks or worthless. And I suppose if I was deep in the drug trade I might not see voting as a priority. So maybe all the above accounts for 10 mil people. Yeah, what about the other 50 mil that aren't interested in the process?

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Response to Moostache (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:55 PM

43. THE RICH WILL STILL BE RICH even if they pay their fair share of taxes

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:06 PM

25. It has always been...

It's time to stop kidding ourselves. We are responsible for some terrible things that have happened in history since our Declaration of Independence.

The numerous Wars we've waged on nations sovereignty. Look at Iraq for a recent example. Latin America, the Middle East, Grenada, Panama..... our genocide of the Native Americans and our indifference to their suffering even to this day... the internment of the Japanese Americans or Americans of Japanese ancestry... just to name a few that stick in my craw.

The financial manipulation of the masses. The union busting, not to mention slavery and the Jim Crow slavery part 2. Our continued oppression of minorities. We are far from some glorious nation of Honor.

We have done some honorable things as well. You can put World War on that list, but then again it was a matter of time before Japan and Germany turn their attention to the United States. So that wasn't totally and honorable unselfish Act.

I have no Illusions about my country any longer. We suppress and ignore history that we don't want to think about. I used to accuse the Soviet Union of that, and now I see we are not too much different... except for our quasi Free Press.

This is our nation. Our actions are a reflection of the people who have lived in it. We have elected our representative to government, and you need only look at McConnell, Graham, cornyn and all the other Congress men and women who we repeatedly send to Washington to represent us. Our nation is at best imperfect.... but we strive to be better.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:10 PM

26. It has always been...

It's time to stop kidding ourselves. We are responsible for some terrible things that have happened in history since our Declaration of Independence.

The numerous Wars we've waged on nations sovereignty. Look at Iraq for a recent example. Latin America, the Middle East, Grenada, Panama..... our genocide of the Native Americans and our indifference to their suffering even to this day... the internment of the Japanese Americans or Americans of Japanese ancestry... just to name a few that stick in my craw.

The financial manipulation of the masses. The union busting, not to mention slavery and the Jim Crow slavery part 2. Our continued oppression of minorities. We are far from some glorious nation of Honor.

We have done some honorable things as well. You can put World War II on that list, but then again it was a matter of time before Japan and Germany turned their attention to the United States. So that wasn't totally and honorable unselfish Act.

I have no Illusions about my country any longer. We suppress and ignore history that we don't want to think about. I used to accuse the Soviet Union of that, and now I see we are not too much different... except for our quasi Free Press.

This is our nation. Our actions are a reflection of the people who have lived in it. We have elected our representative to government, and you need only look at McConnell, Graham, Cornyn and all the other Congress men and women who we repeatedly send to Washington to represent us. Our nation is at best imperfect.... but we strive to be better.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:10 PM

27. What I don't understand is the trumpers who don't have that kind of money all in on this.

There is something wrong with the way they are wired.

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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:23 PM

31. It would appear they do not have the ability to discern reality.

They cannot think critically. They do not understand cause and effect.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 07:19 PM

47. Sad!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:16 PM

28. Its not the wealthy, its the Repub voters...

The wealthy have zero power unless given it by the idiot voters. From Reagan crushing unions, to Exxon telling them Al Gore was bad, to trickle down nonsense, the Repub voters have consistently voted against their own and their kids and grand kids best interests.

They are more worried that two gay people might get married than they are about if their grand kids will even have a future. The wealthy just know the buttons to push.

Trump is the natural result. A guy whose father, himself, his kids all have hated the working person, religion, military their entire lives. And the more they destroy them, the more money these rubes send them.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:58 PM

32. "more worried that two gay people might get married"

Bingo!

It's a cultural war with them, which, at its root involves their religion and the propaganda they consume with gusto. LBJ nailed much of it: "Convince the lowest white man he's better than the best ..."

There's the big segment of the population with serious personality disorders created by their conditioning and they need scapegoats. Faux, Limbaugh, & tRump have given them just that.


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Response to Jon King (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:04 PM

44. The wealthy donors have bought their own reality though

and sadly the deplorables love it.

Education bad
Science bad
Caring for ALL people very Bad
Being open minded Bad
Brown and black people who need socialism very BAD
Low ball crime BAD, bad boys, cops and america's most wanted...UG, Poor on Poor crime is the best!! BAD
Reality Tv (bad for the brain)
Oligarchy of TV, Media, Banking and Communication and Fuel and Food companies.


Being wealthy GOOD as long as you do bad things with your money, do gooders are BAD
Corporations who need Socialism GOOD GOOD
High Brow white collar stealing money by moving tons on paper GOOD SO GOOD
Insincere Politicians GOOD

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Response to Jon King (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 04:54 PM

45. Great video posted here....

"I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017546430

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:23 PM

36. I am sickened on a daily basis at the depths of depravity of the deplorables. They just plain suck.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:26 PM

37. There are very few wealthy people compared to everyone else

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:51 PM

41. Just watched the hour long Jordan Klepper video

It left me laughing in despair. Trumpers at the top donít give a ratís ass about the rest; Trumpers at the bottom donít know anything, donít care to know anything, revel in their ignorance -- actually get in your face about it, smiling like fools when Klepper points out the errors of their ďfactsĒ. They accept the correction but just donít care. If Trump actually shot someone in the middle of 5th avenue, these boogers would still vote for him, still support him.

Jefferson, I think, spoke of the need for a well educated public to maintain a strong Republic. America is very close to 50% plug ignorant, and sassy about it!

The problems Biden/Harris face will be impossible to solve until the root cause is ameliorated -- and that will take generations, not one or two 4 year terms, even with a majority Democratic Senate.

I hope my grandson lives to see an enlightened America. But I fear heíll be fighting the assholes the same as we are, and his children after him, if the world lasts long enough for there to be generations beyond the 21st century.

I hope also that January 6th doesnít find a mob of leftwing fools out on the streets go D.C. to counter protest the Proud Boogaloo Boys or whatever those murderous s.o.b.s call themselves. If the Left is to win the confrontation between the Fascist rights and the government of D.C., it can only do it if it stays home and lets the evil of the Right own the stage and any violence that occurs.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #41)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 07:26 PM

48. " If the Left is to win the confrontation between the Fascist rights...

... and the government of D.C., it can only do it if it stays home and lets the evil of the Right own the stage and any violence that occurs."

That is wisdom in a nut shell. However if the pretests are an indicator, there is not much wisdom out there.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 08:54 PM

50. End-stage capitalism. Even Adam Smith saw it coming.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 08:56 PM

51. America values capital over human life.

If you don't have capital, you might as well not exist.

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