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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo disillusioned with the country. Where we are.
Where the people who have 6 yachts and 2 planes talking about 600 dollars is enough to help people who lost a job 9 months ago.
The level of greed and the lack of humanity and compassion in this country just makes me physically ill. America IS the shithole country that can afford to support her people but cant be bothered to care. How many millions of people needed food banks to eat on Christmas. Those millions are out of their minds knowing in 4 days eviction paperwork will be filed in the courts. 320,000 dead people is just a hoax...
/rant
brush
(53,743 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)and those with lingering symptoms after exposure are surely in the hundreds of thousands also. Rich decadent people, unlike the Gates et al, do not give a damn about us struggling out here just to eat... That yo-yo who set off that bomb in Nashville probably support those 6 yacht Epstein aficionados and their idiot POTUS grifting them, some into poverty I'm sure. And they will say Democrats are responsible for their poverty... as some say here, "can't fix stupid'.
They are utterly corrupt and their minds numb to all suffering. After all, they aren't suffering
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)I dispise the right wing the crazy fundies,the right-wing ceos,the magats and every narcissist sociopath and authoritarian asshole on earth.
If it becomes a war and I seriously hope we can avert it, and the destruction happens ,kill all those evil hearted ,wealthy selfish,greedy amoral,dark triad personality pigfuckers,every last one.
We cannot be tolerating the intolerable forever.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)A big FU to the homeless and the hungry
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)Always for the higher up and never for the worker bee's
MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)Freedomofspeech
(4,223 posts)Not that this nation has ever been anywhere near perfect but I feel like we are becoming a third world country.
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)Gee, what could go wrong?
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NRaleighLiberal
(60,008 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,566 posts)The elite is terrified of losing their worker bees.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)These pigs spend 600 on one lunch. 🤬
Irish_Dem
(46,566 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)Make the money happen. They abuse worker bees terrorize them until they forget they are being robbed of thier lives,thier families,health,mental health and power.
Keep em poor and busy soon they'll accept slavery. Abuse Awful work conditions,hunger,death misery and work(produce) until the moment of death.
If there were no Dems or anyone else who cares we'd live like the cattle at factory farms.
This is what these racists want to abuse people for profit to murder,rape,pollute and destroy everyone else but thier own and get away with it all.
That's what happens when dark triad monsters get power.
The right wing platform is
inhumane,destructive,classist,sociopathicc and abusive. Because that's who these monsters are.
Irish_Dem
(46,566 posts)NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)This is cause for deep shame.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Exactly what you said! Just makes me so sad and angry.
richdj25
(162 posts)the wealthy. Many people like you and me vote in a manner (GOP) that takes away from the poor/middle class and give to the rich.
Some of you have family, friends and neighbors who worship the wealthy, and racism with their ballots.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)Yes, some of us are related to these people. You cant choose the family youre born into, I will not be associated with any of them or their actions. My feelings are not a mystery to anyone I am related to, friends-with, or work beside. I will not be blamed for how they vote. Theyre anti American scum to me. All of them. It doesnt stop me from taking actions that I can to help those who most need. Im sick of being blamed for the stupid in this country.
OMGWTF
(3,943 posts)But this Trumpism sh!t is beyond anything I've ever seen in my long, long life. These people are mean AND stupid.
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appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)jalan48
(13,842 posts)and the politicians blow the "Socialism" dog whistle.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)Mind boggling to me.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)argument dissolves into a pile of goo.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Because a lot of the people being hurt are "liberals".
Sad....
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)At least the liberals arent stupid enough to vote against their own interests.
OMGWTF
(3,943 posts)BarbD
(1,192 posts)But we cannot allow this darkness to extinguish our hope.
Initech
(100,042 posts)Hell we even have our own terrorist groups now. Fun times!
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Tax.
The.
Rich.
The party slogan should be EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD:
"We want to make the rich poorer and the poor more comfortable."
In practice, we need to talk about strengthening the social security promises and safety nets at the same time we RAISE THE FLOOR for what it means to be an "American".
Top marginal bracket should be 91% and any cuts should be to the bottom up, not the top down.
Billionaires should NOT exist, period. There is no justifiable situation to explain or justify Jeff Bezos while he operates a virtual monopoly and slavery operation to squeeze performance from people without commensurate compensation as a percentage of the gross in-take... Millionaires should be paying Eisenhower-level taxes, but billionaires should be taxed out of existence, period.
Corporations should be beholden to their communities in a symbiotic relationship where the corporation benefits and out-sized profits are repaid to the shareholders, the board and executives AND the staff and line-level employees WITH the local communities in a virtuous cycle instead of extracted from them in a vicious cycle and hoarded by the top 0.1% of the country.
Politicians should be chosen BY the voters, not the other way around through gerrymandering and nonsense. Additionally, the right to vote is primary in this system of governance - it should be universally available to all registered voters online, by mail, in person or via any means that makes the ability to cast a ballot easier and more universally available.
Congress should be reconfigured to reflect the economic reality of the country and NOT the currently out-sized representation of the millionaires only. There should be an economic salary cap applied to the parties and they should have to find and run candidates across the entire economic and political spectrum.
Money is NOT speech and corporations are NOT people - at not until an entire corporate board is imprisoned and stripped of all wealth in retribution for the practices of said corporations...campaigns also must be shrunk in size, scope and length to no more than 30 days prior to a primary and 45 days prior to a general. Violations are to be handled harshly and promptly.
Candidates for public office do not retain privacy rights to their financial dealings and crimes. No tax returns? No ballot access. EVER.
Healthcare is a RIGHT, not a profit-center. And if that means nationalized research and development alongside single payer system, then so be it. Make. It. Happen.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)dutch777
(2,969 posts)...when we get power, we don't wield it well. Until we push through substantive changes as proposed by Moostache, and the people can see the good it does, the great DC stall by Repubs can continue with all too much public support. LBJ was certainly not our best President, but he knew how to play power politics and I just don't see that coming from Schumer or Pelosi. I think Nancy has done a great job and maintained a cool head through a very long dark storm but someone harder edged is needed and we certainly need the Senate and probably a greater majority in the House. And all this is even harder when even with record voter turnout and such a stark contrast between candidates, there were still some 60+ million eligible Americans so disengaged from the process that they didn't vote.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)dutch777
(2,969 posts)I know some folks have a lot going on in their lives that they can't deal even with one more thing. And there are those that just assume all politicians, no matter their stripe, are crooks or worthless. And I suppose if I was deep in the drug trade I might not see voting as a priority. So maybe all the above accounts for 10 mil people. Yeah, what about the other 50 mil that aren't interested in the process?
OMGWTF
(3,943 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)It's time to stop kidding ourselves. We are responsible for some terrible things that have happened in history since our Declaration of Independence.
The numerous Wars we've waged on nations sovereignty. Look at Iraq for a recent example. Latin America, the Middle East, Grenada, Panama..... our genocide of the Native Americans and our indifference to their suffering even to this day... the internment of the Japanese Americans or Americans of Japanese ancestry... just to name a few that stick in my craw.
The financial manipulation of the masses. The union busting, not to mention slavery and the Jim Crow slavery part 2. Our continued oppression of minorities. We are far from some glorious nation of Honor.
We have done some honorable things as well. You can put World War on that list, but then again it was a matter of time before Japan and Germany turn their attention to the United States. So that wasn't totally and honorable unselfish Act.
I have no Illusions about my country any longer. We suppress and ignore history that we don't want to think about. I used to accuse the Soviet Union of that, and now I see we are not too much different... except for our quasi Free Press.
This is our nation. Our actions are a reflection of the people who have lived in it. We have elected our representative to government, and you need only look at McConnell, Graham, cornyn and all the other Congress men and women who we repeatedly send to Washington to represent us. Our nation is at best imperfect.... but we strive to be better.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)It's time to stop kidding ourselves. We are responsible for some terrible things that have happened in history since our Declaration of Independence.
The numerous Wars we've waged on nations sovereignty. Look at Iraq for a recent example. Latin America, the Middle East, Grenada, Panama..... our genocide of the Native Americans and our indifference to their suffering even to this day... the internment of the Japanese Americans or Americans of Japanese ancestry... just to name a few that stick in my craw.
The financial manipulation of the masses. The union busting, not to mention slavery and the Jim Crow slavery part 2. Our continued oppression of minorities. We are far from some glorious nation of Honor.
We have done some honorable things as well. You can put World War II on that list, but then again it was a matter of time before Japan and Germany turned their attention to the United States. So that wasn't totally and honorable unselfish Act.
I have no Illusions about my country any longer. We suppress and ignore history that we don't want to think about. I used to accuse the Soviet Union of that, and now I see we are not too much different... except for our quasi Free Press.
This is our nation. Our actions are a reflection of the people who have lived in it. We have elected our representative to government, and you need only look at McConnell, Graham, Cornyn and all the other Congress men and women who we repeatedly send to Washington to represent us. Our nation is at best imperfect.... but we strive to be better.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)There is something wrong with the way they are wired.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)They cannot think critically. They do not understand cause and effect.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)Jon King
(1,910 posts)The wealthy have zero power unless given it by the idiot voters. From Reagan crushing unions, to Exxon telling them Al Gore was bad, to trickle down nonsense, the Repub voters have consistently voted against their own and their kids and grand kids best interests.
They are more worried that two gay people might get married than they are about if their grand kids will even have a future. The wealthy just know the buttons to push.
Trump is the natural result. A guy whose father, himself, his kids all have hated the working person, religion, military their entire lives. And the more they destroy them, the more money these rubes send them.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Bingo!
It's a cultural war with them, which, at its root involves their religion and the propaganda they consume with gusto. LBJ nailed much of it: "Convince the lowest white man he's better than the best ..."
There's the big segment of the population with serious personality disorders created by their conditioning and they need scapegoats. Faux, Limbaugh, & tRump have given them just that.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)and sadly the deplorables love it.
Education bad
Science bad
Caring for ALL people very Bad
Being open minded Bad
Brown and black people who need socialism very BAD
Low ball crime BAD, bad boys, cops and america's most wanted...UG, Poor on Poor crime is the best!! BAD
Reality Tv (bad for the brain)
Oligarchy of TV, Media, Banking and Communication and Fuel and Food companies.
Being wealthy GOOD as long as you do bad things with your money, do gooders are BAD
Corporations who need Socialism GOOD GOOD
High Brow white collar stealing money by moving tons on paper GOOD SO GOOD
Insincere Politicians GOOD
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,702 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)RVN VET71
(2,689 posts)It left me laughing in despair. Trumpers at the top dont give a rats ass about the rest; Trumpers at the bottom dont know anything, dont care to know anything, revel in their ignorance -- actually get in your face about it, smiling like fools when Klepper points out the errors of their facts. They accept the correction but just dont care. If Trump actually shot someone in the middle of 5th avenue, these boogers would still vote for him, still support him.
Jefferson, I think, spoke of the need for a well educated public to maintain a strong Republic. America is very close to 50% plug ignorant, and sassy about it!
The problems Biden/Harris face will be impossible to solve until the root cause is ameliorated -- and that will take generations, not one or two 4 year terms, even with a majority Democratic Senate.
I hope my grandson lives to see an enlightened America. But I fear hell be fighting the assholes the same as we are, and his children after him, if the world lasts long enough for there to be generations beyond the 21st century.
I hope also that January 6th doesnt find a mob of leftwing fools out on the streets go D.C. to counter protest the Proud Boogaloo Boys or whatever those murderous s.o.b.s call themselves. If the Left is to win the confrontation between the Fascist rights and the government of D.C., it can only do it if it stays home and lets the evil of the Right own the stage and any violence that occurs.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)... and the government of D.C., it can only do it if it stays home and lets the evil of the Right own the stage and any violence that occurs."
That is wisdom in a nut shell. However if the pretests are an indicator, there is not much wisdom out there.
marmar
(77,056 posts)Yavin4
(35,422 posts)If you don't have capital, you might as well not exist.