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@AWeissmann_·17h
In the Manafort plea agreement, para 12, he relinquished all interest in the forfeited property criminally and civilly, precisely because we saw possibility of a pardon, which can have no effect on civil forfeiture. POTUS cannot change that through pardon power.
Josh Gerstein@joshgerstein · Dec 25
New doc from Justice Dept shows Trump pardon of Manafort covers $31+ million in restitution and $11 million in forfeiture. https://justice.gov/file/1349071/download Experts say he could try to recover property feds haven't already sold. Earlier: https://google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/12/23/trump-pardons-manafort-stone-kushner-
Link to tweet
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Excellent news
Nothing but a gang of fkn crooks
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)He thought ahead, when working for Mueller.
lame54
(35,284 posts)magicarpet
(14,144 posts).... too late. Besides the ostrich was kinda cold without them.
malaise
(268,930 posts)Mr. Evil
(2,839 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Not poor as I know it anyways.
machoneman
(4,006 posts)Any takers? Source?
RainCaster
(10,866 posts)pecosbob
(7,536 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)Joelteply
(38 posts)Wait, that was a swan
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)jmowreader
(50,553 posts)The big attraction of the stuff is that an ostrich has these cool-looking places on its skin where the feathers come out of. The problem is it ain't easy to process an ostrich hide into leather without flattening them out, and the special tanning processes cost serious money.
Also, an ostrich is fairly small as far as leather-bearing animals go...it takes about four ostrich hides to equal one cowhide.
Ostrich leather is going to run you around $30 per square foot, if you buy a hundred hides at once. (One at a time, they're even worse.) If you're any good at all at buying leather you can get the very nicest grade of cowhide leather for about $7 per square foot.
Strange thing is, the vast majority of ostrich leather winds up as footwear, mostly cowboy boots. Some of it becomes purses...very little winds up as Manafort jackets, because it's expensive.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)bringthePaine
(1,728 posts)KS Toronado
(17,199 posts)He wasn't charged with everything they could have thrown at him, and the prosecutor did so foreseeing
a trumpig pardon coming his way. He's going back to jail.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)If so, the pardon is irrelevant to those, I'd think.
KS Toronado
(17,199 posts)that he was not charged with everything they could have charged him with because the
prosecutor wanted to keep something in his bag of tricks in case trumpig issued a pardon.
Which came to fruition as expected. Believe roger stone might be in the same boat.
A_Woman_from_MI
(165 posts)Which, I know, is overused, and misunderstood by many (mostly people who don't know how to play chess:chuckle . I hope this is true, and everyone gets their just desserts. I despair for our country if we continue to refuse to hold the crooked responsible for their crimes.
KS Toronado
(17,199 posts)BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)... but I'm not holding my breath.
So many Repukes, so little time!
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)To make it seem a little less awful, those pardons are horrific.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)I don't see anything in Weissmann's tweet that would prelude Manafort from recovering the $31 million he paid in restitution.
I'm not saying he'll get it back: just that it looks to me like Weissmann's talking only about the forfeiture in that tweet.
Kid Berwyn
(14,876 posts)former9thward
(31,981 posts)One says property can't be gotten back and the other says just the opposite.
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)to say that can't occur because plea agreement that Manafort signed said he relinquinshes the property.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)That is the whole purpose of the pardon.