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Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:30 PM

Why are Maga's so angry in regards to the outcome of the Presidential

election ... the polls all said that Biden was ahead - Biden, 52 ... Trump, 44 ... so why do they believe otherwise? The media keeps saying that "Trumpers" don't believe that Biden won because it was rigged; so why doesn't the media show, again and again, the polls prior to the election, it might help quell some of their irrational thinking.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53657174

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Reply Why are Maga's so angry in regards to the outcome of the Presidential (Original post)
42bambi Jan 2021 OP
NCjack Jan 2021 #1
Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #2
sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #19
NCjack Jan 2021 #3
unblock Jan 2021 #4
JHB Jan 2021 #5
MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #15
BamaRefugee Jan 2021 #6
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #7
MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #16
BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #8
Lithos Jan 2021 #9
haele Jan 2021 #10
SCantiGOP Jan 2021 #11
MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #17
aikoaiko Jan 2021 #12
NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #13
Caliman73 Jan 2021 #14
42bambi Jan 2021 #21
moondust Jan 2021 #18
ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #20
Donkees Jan 2021 #22
JI7 Jan 2021 #23

Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:32 PM

1. Before the election, Trump was screaming that the polls were fake.

His supporters swallowed that lie.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:33 PM

2. Oh who knows!! Their entire demeanor is always an angry one

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:51 PM

19. Yes. Petulant inner-children

Unresolved kindergarten issues

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:35 PM

4. Because he has over 90% support within the Republican Party and the rest of us don't count

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:35 PM

5. They're angry because all the "people they trust" told them Trump would win in a landslide...

...and if he didn't it was because the Democrats cheated and stole the election.

In other words, all the "people they trust" lied to them, but the MAGAts have been hearing those lies and preferring htem to reality for some four decades now, even longer for some.

Or, shorter version, an overweening sense of entitlement.

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Response to JHB (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:59 PM

15. Or, even shorter:

STUPID!!!!

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:36 PM

6. Because Joe Biden will say "words". They HATE words. Almost like being forced to read.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:36 PM

7. Cult tells them ignore polls, ignore mainstream media, ignore facts, ignore your lying eyes, ...


... ignore reality.

If you sincerely believed a major election was stolen by switching 5 million votes, you'd be very angry too.

But MAGAts are not entitled to their own set of facts. They've been lied to and propagandized.

Their emotions have been played by skilled propagandists. You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into.



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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:04 PM

16. "But MAGAts are not entitled to their own set of facts"

But they ARE!!!! Kelly Anne told them so - they are ALTERNATIVE FACTS - and they've had 3 years of training to know and understand how to find them and believe in them. Hell, they're still pissed because there is not a national holiday to commemorate the famous "Bowling Green Massacre!"

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:37 PM

8. They don't believe polls, they don't believe in democracy, they don't believe in the United States,

they don't believe in the Constitution. They only believe in Daddy Trump, that Daddy Trump must have won, and that Daddy Trump must be President for the foreseeable future, or all will be lost and their lives won't be worth living. Fact and truth and critical thinking have no bearing on the thought processes of people who base everything on faith and emotion.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:38 PM

9. They live in a social bubble

They have self-isolated themselves and no longer see or acknowledge anything which is not part of that bubble. In that bubble, they never see anything which describes why Biden received so much support nor do they see just how out of touch they are with reality. It's truly fiction to them.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:38 PM

10. Because their savior didn't win as promised. Blasphemy! Heresy!

And there's a black woman in the VP slot, even worse.

It's a cult. Especially since they'll claim "we didn't even give him a chance" - even though before the election - during the primaries - it was pretty obvious he was a mobster beholden to the Russians.

Haele

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:40 PM

11. The point in the OP

can lead to a conclusion that the election was rigged, and it might have been. How was it that Biden led the polls by 7-9% yet only won by a bit more than 4?
If a true accounting could be done, you would likely find that Biden won Arizona and Georgia by more than the thin margins that the huge turnout produced.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:10 PM

17. You are probably right there....

but after all of the other messes going on it has been easily overlooked.

I believe Donnie was "comfortable" because he knew the "fix was in - NO WAY could he lose." When he did lose I believe that HE BELIEVES that somebody cheated more than he did! And THAT is what really pushed him over the edge!

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:41 PM

12. They refusal to accept the results is not really a rationale response.



Having said that, national polling of the type you reference is a better measure of the popular vote and not the same as electoral college results.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:48 PM

13. because they were told to be angry. cult members don't think.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:55 PM

14. What media?

The Fake News Media? The media that they do not trust? The media that for the last 5 years, Donald Trump has been saying, "is the enemy of the 'people'"?

The media that even when the progenitor of right wing media, Fox News admitted that Biden won, they turned on Fox? How is the media supposed to convince people that think the media was one of the conspirators in rigging the election, that the election was not rigged?

You don't quell irrational thinking with facts. You have to deprogram people, like they do with cult members. It is a long and systematic process and cannot be done when the right wing media continues to perpetuate the cult mentality. If facts were all that were needed, then Donald Trump would not have been elected OR, he would have been Impeached and removed from office.

What we need to look at is the whole of right wing media. These people are literally in a cult and the cult is being fed by right wing outlets on radio, television, and the internet. While those things continue to function, it will be difficult if not impossible to change people's points of view.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:09 PM

21. I agree on on right wing media ... and I fear things will remain the same or

become even more hard core now with Biden/Harris in the white house.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:13 PM

18. THEY WANT THEIR GODDAM DICTATOR

AND THEY WANT HIM RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

EOM

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:03 PM

20. Because They Thought The Fix Was In

Despite the polls, all through the ranks, they thought they'd pull off another popular loss/electoral win.
That was their plan and were sure it would work.
Then, a much larger than expected turnout, with massive mail-in voting due to the pandemic, blew that plan away.
Since they thought their cheat was foolproof, their only excuse is someone cheated better.
But, unlike Robert Shaw in "The Sting", they didn't say " What was I supposed to do? Call him for cheating better than me in front of the others?". They said it out loud with a million watt megaphone. And, suckers bought it.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:09 PM

22. Vindictive rage

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:23 PM

23. It's not that they don't believe it but rather they don't WANT to believe it

Also if you only count white voters than Biden loses. They don't think black and other non white votes should count.

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