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Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:59 PM

One Question:

Who will citizen Trump hire to represent him in the impeachment trial"

I am hoping it's Sidney Powell.

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H2O Man Jan 13 OP
lisa58 Jan 13 #1
sheshe2 Jan 13 #4
H2O Man Jan 13 #17
sheshe2 Jan 13 #19
Vivienne235729 Jan 13 #11
H2O Man Jan 13 #23
BainsBane Jan 13 #24
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 13 #2
H2O Man Jan 13 #15
alwaysinasnit Jan 13 #3
H2O Man Jan 13 #16
alwaysinasnit Jan 13 #20
Chin music Jan 13 #5
GopherGal Jan 13 #9
Chin music Jan 13 #10
H2O Man Jan 13 #18
voteearlyvoteoften Jan 13 #6
ms liberty Jan 13 #7
H2O Man Jan 13 #21
Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #8
Chin music Jan 13 #12
Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #13
Chin music Jan 13 #14
H2O Man Jan 13 #22
Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #26
Totally Tunsie Jan 13 #25
Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #27

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:00 PM

1. Guiliani and Dershowitz so far

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Response to lisa58 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:02 PM

4. That's what I read as well.

If they add Powell they will be the Three Stooges.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:32 PM

17. They'll need Sidney

in order to be taken seriously. (grin)

I'm not really familiar with her past, but a friend told me that in years past, she seemed intelligent and capable. I am curious what happened? Was she merely feigning sanity in the past, or did she have a horrible break from reality?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:33 PM

19. Q juice perhaps?

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Response to lisa58 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:40 PM

11. it's like the blind and blinder leading the blind.

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Response to lisa58 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:28 PM

23. On PBS

a reporter noted that Dershowitz told her he won't be.

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Response to lisa58 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:30 PM

24. after announcing he's stiffing Giuliani

Giuliani might not take the case.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:01 PM

2. Lin Wood?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:27 PM

15. Yikes!

I plum forgot Lin. Hopefully, I can forget him twice.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:01 PM

3. I doubt that. She is going to be busy protecting her own ass.

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Response to alwaysinasnit (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:29 PM

16. Sidney Powell is

fully capable of screwing up two cases at once. While I recognize you are right, I still have hope.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:34 PM

20. Too true. lol

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Response to Chin music (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:37 PM

9. Can he fund it from campaign donations?

Or his PAC? The one they diverted the "help us win the Georgia run-offs!" money to?

If the Tangerine Tyrant has a skill, it's spending other people's money.

Speculation on how he can spend his PAC money didn't really clarify anything for me:

[link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-save-america-pac-is-raking-in-donations-what-can-that-money-be-spent-on/|]

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/01/what-trump-familys-new-political-committees-can-cant-do/|]

[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-slush-fund_n_5fc6a4cac5b66bb88c6b0b2e|]

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Response to Chin music (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:32 PM

18. I'll bet that

Michael Cohen is happy tonight.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:11 PM

6. Only the best lawyers amirite?

Hoping for the incompetent lawyer appeal perhaps?

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:24 PM

7. Who will pay him for the privilege? Or will do it pro bono?

To whom does he owe the least amount of money? Who wants to ingratiate themselves with him or his family?

It will be someone in one of those groups. There seem to be any number of the repulsive things crawling around in the primordial ooze of the grifter's cesspool, so it's anybody's guess as to which one will win the contest.

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Response to ms liberty (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:35 PM

21. Well said!

Surely no one who anticipates being paid.

I have spoken with many people of my generation in the past few days. Everyone is in full agreement that this is the lowest point for our nation in our lifetimes. A waking nightmare.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:32 PM

8. Bryan Wilson, Texas Law Hawk



Better representation than Dump deserves, but the TLH might accept trade.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:20 PM

13. He likely is out of Dump's price range.

Maybe a GoFundMe can help retain Dan Muessig of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania:



“Thanks, Dan!”

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:40 PM

22. Wow!

That "commercial" defines the new reality of much of America today!

Could you have imagined it could possibly get this much worse after Nixon?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:46 PM

26. Reagan declaring his candidacy in Philadelphia, Mississippi gave me a clue.





Bell Book Says Officials Told Racist Jokes : Reagan Aide Says He Doubts Claim by Ex-Education Secretary

October 21, 1987|Associated Press

WASHINGTON — President Reagan's first secretary of education says mid-level Administration officials made racist jokes and other scurrilous remarks during civil rights discussions, but Reagan's chief spokesman said Tuesday he does not believe it.

Terrel H. Bell, in a memoir of Reagan's first term, said the slurs included references to the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as "Martin Lucifer Coon" and calling Title IX, a federal law guaranteeing women equal educational opportunity, "the lesbian's bill of rights."

SNIP...

Bell did not identify those who made the racist or scurrilous comments. He could not be reached for further comment.

In his book, he says the jokes about King were made as Reagan was deciding whether to sign or veto a bill establishing King's birthday as a national holiday. He eventually signed it.

Bell said: "I do not mean to imply that these scurrilous remarks were common utterances in the rooms and corridors of the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, but I heard them when issues related to civil rights enforcement weighed heavily on my mind."

Bell added: "It seemed obvious they were said for my benefit, since they often accompanied sardonic references to 'Comrade Bell.' "

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http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-21/news/mn-9912_1_racist-jokes

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:38 PM

25. You mean there are places in our nation where

a commercial such as this will work to sell?

No wonder we're f*ed.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:01 PM

27. NAZI Lawyers came to learn in Amerika.

What America Taught the Nazis

In the 1930s, the Germans were fascinated by the global leader in codified racism—the United States.


IRA KATZNELSON
The Atlantic, NOVEMBER 2017

(Book review): Hitler's American Model: the United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law
BY JAMES Q. WHITMAN PRINCETON

There was no more extravagant site for Third Reich political theater than the spectacular parade grounds, two large stadiums, and congress hall in Nuremberg, a project masterminded by Albert Speer. From 1933 to 1938, he choreographed massive rallies associated with the annual conference of the Nazi Party, assemblies made famous by Leni Riefenstahl’s stunning documentaries of 1933 and 1935, The Victory of Faith and Triumph of the Will. Nuremberg was the setting for the September 1935 “Party Rally of Freedom,” at which a special session of the Reichstag passed, by acclamation, legislation that disqualified Jews as Reich citizens with political rights, forbade them to marry or have sex with persons identified as racial Germans, and prohibited any display by Jews of national colors or the new national flag, a banner with a swastika.

Just eight days after the Reich Citizenship Law, the Law on the Protection of German Blood and German Honor, and the Reich Flag Law were formally proclaimed by Adolf Hitler, 45 Nazi lawyers sailed for New York under the auspices of the Association of National Socialist German Jurists. The trip was a reward for the lawyers, who had codified the Reich’s race-based legal philosophy. The announced purpose of the visit was to gain “special insight into the workings of American legal and economic life through study and lectures,” and the leader of the group was Ludwig Fischer. As the governor of the Warsaw District half a decade later, he would preside over the brutal order of the ghetto.

Every day brings fresh reminders that liberal and illiberal democracy can entwine uncomfortably, a timely context for James Q. Whitman’s Hitler’s American Model, which examines how the Third Reich found sustenance for its race-based initiatives in American law. Upon docking, the Germans attended a reception organized by the New York City Bar Association. Everyone in the room would have known about the recent events in Nuremberg, yet the quest by leading Nazi jurists to learn from America’s legal and economic systems was warmly welcomed.

Whitman, a professor at Yale Law School, wanted to know how the United States, a country grounded in such liberal principles as individual rights and the rule of law, could have produced legal ideas and practices “that seemed intriguing and attractive to Nazis.” In exploring this apparent incongruity, his short book raises important questions about law, about political decisions that affect the scope of civic membership, and about the malleability of Enlightenment values.

Pushing back against scholarship that downplays the impact in Nazi Germany of the U.S. model of legal racism, Whitman marshals an array of evidence to support the likelihood “that the Nuremberg Laws themselves reflect direct American influence.” As race law’s global leader, Whitman stresses, America provided the most obvious point of reference for the September 1933 Preußische Denkschrift, the Prussian Memorandum, written by a legal team that included Roland Freisler, soon to emerge as the remarkably cruel president of the Nazi People’s Court. American precedents also informed other crucial Nazi texts, including the National Socialist Handbook for Law and Legislation of 1934–35, edited by the future governor-general of Poland, Hans Frank, who was later hung at Nuremberg. A pivotal essay in that volume, Herbert Kier’s recommendations for race legislation, devoted a quarter of its pages to U.S. legislation—which went beyond segregation to include rules governing American Indians, citizenship criteria for Filipinos and Puerto Ricans as well as African Americans, immigration regulations, and prohibitions against miscegenation in some 30 states. No other country, not even South Africa, possessed a comparably developed set of relevant laws.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/

Defenders with creativity aren’t always a good thing.

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