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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the people crying about the amount of stimulus. You know what Biden wont do? LET PEOPLE DIE
I am so exhausted with people who can do nothing but complain after what we're going through and have gone through.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)stimulus that Congress is talking about sending out now.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)I have no intention of watching people complaining elsewhere.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)especially the 15/hr and reduce it to a fail for a false argument.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)Maybe that's the problem. The complaints should be addressed to the people doing the complaining.
Cirque du So-What
(25,927 posts)Ive seen complaints about $2,000 instead of $2,600.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)Biden said about the $2,000 in GA and the $1,400 Congress is talking about now.
Cirque du So-What
(25,927 posts)Thats counting the $600 thats already been approved + $2,000 not yet approved. Ive seen complaints here to that effect. Yes indeed.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I am more than tired of it.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Nothing is good enough for them. If their hero came up with less money, say $1000 instead of $2000 total, they would shower him with so much praise.
Response to onecaliberal (Original post)
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asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Biden, and Dems have been discussing, surrounding this $2000.
Dear lord, there isn't enough space for all of the links explaining we will get to $2000 by way of $1400, and the $600 already in our bank..
$600+$1400=$2000 last I looked..I do hope those crying about this are not DUers..
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Autumn
(45,056 posts)You won't find it. That was what the Progressive Caucus and some here here are talking about. It's what Joe said versus what Congress is saying.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)Thank you. That should be a stand alone post.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)checks..I saw the tweet where Joe said $2000 - I also watched Joe in GA..when he said vote for Ossoff and Warnock and the $2000 will go out the door..
But, IMHO the conversation has always been $2000..not $2600..we got $600, and $1400 more =$2000..I seriously don't think Joe and Nancy would be on such a different page..what am I missing here..?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13555045/trump-demands-2000-covid-checks-calls-600-stimulus-pelosi/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-600-2000-dollars-eligibility-2021-1-1/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-still-hopeful-mcconnell-gop-see-the-light-and-pass-2-000-stimulus-checks/ar-BB1clYNW
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/let-s-do-it-pelosi-calls-trump-s-bluff-on-2-000-stimulus-checks/ar-BB1c9QYW
Autumn
(45,056 posts)hurting. We will have a slim majority in the Senate, leadership needs to lean hard on anyone going against it. For example Joe Manchin, who has already stated he will not support what our president wants to do. Donkey and a carrot or a big stick, leaders choice.
Link to tweet
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)chosing Bidens agenda, far be it for me..why would you even say something like that..just pointing out the checks were never about $2600..slim majority in Senate..yes, what's your point?
Autumn
(45,056 posts)Joe knows and said $600 was not enough and he want's another $2,000 stimulus check. No one logical is magically combining the checks that have been sent. It's an excuse to shut down the discussion.
Akoto
(4,266 posts)The $600 was not the $2000 I had hoped for, but it was nevertheless gratefully received. Did it last long? Nope, gone quick, because it did what it was supposed to do: it helped me take care of some things which had been on delay.
Am I going to complain if I get $1400 instead of $2000 in whatever deposit may next arrive? NOPE. I'll be jumping for joy to have an amount of money I usually never do to handle things with.
I never thought it was promising another check which would be $2000 above and beyond the $600. I heard what Biden said and this computed in my brain as, "$600+$1400 = $2000. He is finishing giving us the amount we first aimed to receive."
I never thought anything else, as someone who can genuinely use the money, and I think it's twisting his words to call it any kind of failing on his part.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)tough. I think that we will see more stimulus...
sweetloukillbot
(11,008 posts)Not sure when all these house members moved the goalposts...
Response to onecaliberal (Original post)
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sanatanadharma
(3,699 posts)The USA has the wealth necessary to get things done. We can have nice things.
IIRC, I heard President Biden say (early in his speech) that those on the top of the piss-on-you pyramid (aka trickle down) increased their wealth in this pandemic year, by 1.4 trillion dollars. That $1.4T could be paying for vaccinations.
The USA is wealthy and the wealth needs to be taxed.
The secondary argument that the debt can never be paid off is a ruse to convince the next generations that they will be screwed; therefore let us, the wealthy, take it all now.
The argument also reveals a lack of faith in the future growth of the country's wealth.
Tax all money made by money, not labor.
Return the fruits of labor to the working class by reducing the owner-manager class rip-off of value-added created by society not capitalists.
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Initech
(100,063 posts)Because unlike President Shit For Brains, Joe actually cares about the virus and will help get this thing under control so we can go live lives again.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Allowing a lot of plausible deniability to better pretend those obvious complaints simply do not exist
When reading DU last night, the harbingers and foreshadowing of the FUD that will slowly build were apparent.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...I'm exhausted with the people who think we don't have a right to speak out about our needs and expectations of government.
What the hell is this site for, if it's not a place where people can disagree? Candidates have their own fan sites.
Did it occur to you that people complaining have more to worry about than whether someone on DU is offended? In this case we're talking about many people who are in actual distress, not just internet angst over someone dissenting.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)It's ok for people to disagree on policy. Really it is. And if they do you don't need to go nuclear, with the totally unrelated "yeah but at least he's not killing people so stop disagreeing with everything Biden does" crap. Sheesh.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)comments from the other side?