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MSNBC Brian Williams: Did I hear correctly that tRumpy will be leaving on AF1 Wed morning & will be (Original Post) ARPad95 Jan 2021 OP
Why would that be allowed? His term ends still_one Jan 2021 #1
At noon it is disarmed marlakay Jan 2021 #3
He might not know that turtleblossom Jan 2021 #9
Ok. One person can't do it alone from what I understand still_one Jan 2021 #11
The codes expire at 12:00 Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #17
He'll probably pack a few nukes for souvenirs C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #2
I think tRump is leaving in the morning before noon and Joe Biden will not have the new codes until ARPad95 Jan 2021 #4
Kinda stupid actually. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #5
Me too. dewsgirl Jan 2021 #13
As soon as Biden is sworn in the codes Trump has are deactivated. madaboutharry Jan 2021 #6
Give him a fake one to leave with coti Jan 2021 #7
He thinks it looks like this anyway Diraven Jan 2021 #14
I am sure there are multiple "footballs" WA-03 Democrat Jan 2021 #8
Oh, yeah! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #10
Too true WA-03 Democrat Jan 2021 #12
Correct, there are at least three Presidential Emergency Satchels ("footballs") Massacure Jan 2021 #18
Sayonara, sucker soothsayer Jan 2021 #15
I'm hoping the military has a tacit understanding... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #16

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
4. I think tRump is leaving in the morning before noon and Joe Biden will not have the new codes until
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jan 2021

he's sworn in.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
6. As soon as Biden is sworn in the codes Trump has are deactivated.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jan 2021

It’s timed to the second, or maybe less.

coti

(4,612 posts)
7. Give him a fake one to leave with
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jan 2021

because you know damned well he's going to sell it to the Russians.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,046 posts)
8. I am sure there are multiple "footballs"
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:24 AM
Jan 2021

Redundancy for equipment failure would or should require 10 of these in a pool. The unit’s will need maintenance and calibration. Just because you have the hardware doesn’t mean the software will work. I am sure there is only one primary at a time and they will be switched at noon on Wednesday.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
10. Oh, yeah!
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jan 2021

Went to SAC headquarters in Omaha once. Ain't NO games played - many layers deep on ALL aspects of what is happening regarding ANY of this.
If we can still have any faith at all in our government and those responsible, this is NOT a problem about which we should worry.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,046 posts)
12. Too true
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:47 AM
Jan 2021

As the only organization in the federal government to never have an audit, the military is not afraid to spend money to secure the objective. It’s a logic, disciplined, planed approach. They don’t half ass stuff.

Massacure

(7,521 posts)
18. Correct, there are at least three Presidential Emergency Satchels ("footballs")
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 02:57 AM
Jan 2021

The military has a rotation of aides-de-camp which follow the President and Vice President, who have the rank of at least Major (Army/Marine/Airforce) or Lieutenant Commander (Navy) and who are responsible for the Presidential Emergency Satchel. An aide-de-camp can also be dispatched to accompany a Designated Survivor; the most frequent example being when one of the cabinet secretaries purposely leaves Washington D.C. during the State of the Union address. The satchel contains communication equipment, a book containing preset nuclear strike options, a packet that containing instruction related to the use the Emergency Broadcast System, and a list of classified sites where the President can be taken.

Additionally, the President and Vice-President have a 3x5 inch plastic card containing Gold Codes that are issued to them each day. These Gold Codes would need to be transmitted to authenticate the order to use nuclear weapons. Trump, Pence, Biden, and Harris (and I imagine a Designated Survivor) will all be issued Gold Codes on January 20th. At noon, Trump and Pence's codes will expire while Biden and Harris' codes will take affect.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
16. I'm hoping the military has a tacit understanding...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 01:29 AM
Jan 2021

...to refuse to obey any launch orders coming from 45 once he’s in the air, unless the nation is under attack — especially if the order is to strike D.C. and other large liberal cities.

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