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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 06:51 PM Jan 2021

These 2A die-hards made the strongest argument against their needing guns

Don't they always say that they need their arsenals to defend against tyranny?

And didn't they manage to storm the Capitol without firearms, coming a hair's width from actually capturing and perhaps killing many government high-ranking officials??

Apart from their rank incompetence and utter buffoonishness, didn't they mount an insurrection, and nearly actually accomplish a coup d'etat???

And is there any doubt, that had they shown up armed to the teeth, they'd have been stopped a mile away from the Capitol, would have never even been able to step a foot on the grounds????

Doesn't that sort of TOTALLY INVALIDATE THEIR WHOLE FUCKING ARGUMENT?????

Because it seems that way to me.

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Mr.Bill

(24,281 posts)
16. The ironic thing they don't realize,
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 08:08 PM
Jan 2021

is if they got their wishes, Trump was made president for life, all the democrats were executed and he alone ruled, you know what would eventually happen?

He would have had to take their guns away. You can't rule an armed society as a dictator.

brush

(53,764 posts)
2. I'm not sure they wouldn't have gotten there if they were armed as...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:03 PM
Jan 2021

there seems to have been some complicity with the Capitol Police heads leaving the building vulnerable and the DOD delaying sending in the Nat'l Guard. Something was up with that as the security that's there now should've been there on the 6th. The barn door was closed after the horses were gone.

We got lucky that the seditionists just missed catching Pence, senators and representatives.

brush

(53,764 posts)
6. They got there because the building was left vulnerable.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

It's pretty apparent IMO that there was complicity as the Capitol Chief of police and both Sergeants-at-Arms had to resign and the DOD wouldn't send the Nat'l Guard immediately. The security that's there now should've been there on the 6th.

In other words, they wouldn't have gotten there if the appropriate security had been in place.

I'm sure we haven't heard the last of this.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
7. Even so, they got there without guns
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jan 2021

You can list a dozen reasons for why and how it happened, but my point stands, and stands strong: firearms are NOT necessary for a violent insurrection.

They have handed us, on a silver platter, our best weapon *ever* to enact strong gun laws.

brush

(53,764 posts)
9. Nah, there wouldn't have been an insurrection if the security that's there now had been in place...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:26 PM
Jan 2021

on the 6th, armed or unarmed.

brush

(53,764 posts)
13. I get it but I don't agree with it. As I said, there wouldn't have been...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jan 2021

an insurrection, armed or unarmed, at all if the appropriate security had been in place.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
10. Well, one major point against that is that they didn't fight against tyranny
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:31 PM
Jan 2021

They had the numbers on their side, overran them for a short time and were lucky that they weren't fighting a dictator that would have have let his troops mow them down. And then they were cleared out of the Capitol by armed forces because opposing that without guns would have been pretty foolish.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
15. Now is not the time to attempt to reason with these terrorists. When they bring their guns we need
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jan 2021

to bring rocket launchers. After the smoke clears and the dust settles then their survivors might listen.

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