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Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:09 PM Jan 2021

The Nazification of the Republican Party



By Loretta J. Ross
Counterpunch, Jan. 20, 2021

After World War II, the Nazis who helped Hitler rise to power and murder millions of people, including at least 6 million Jews, were put on trial to send a warning to the world. Not all of them faced a judicial process, but enough were not protected by their high status, official offices, or claims of “innocence” and “patriotism.” Power through violence was the only language they spoke—not justice, not freedom—and they were held accountable. These criminals faced a tribunal at Nürnberg (Nuremberg) so momentous that the disgraced word “Nazi” is forever attached to those who participated in and enabled their horrific crimes.

After the war, Germany banned Nazi flags and neo-Nazis. In fact, the only way that Nazi paraphernalia got into Germany was through smuggling from other countries such as the United States, like from Nazi propagandist Gerhard Lauck in Nebraska, the man called the “Farm Belt Führer” who served four years in a German prison for distributing banned pro-Nazi materials throughout Europe.

I know this because I teach a course on White Supremacy at Smith College that focuses on anti-Semitism, anti-Black racism, and the many intersecting components of white supremacist ideology. After more than 30 years of organizing and teaching about fascism as a Black feminist activist and academic, I know the destructive influence of these noxious ideas, and I teach young people how to interpret and resist them.

Global contempt for the word “Nazi” is a lesson for us today in the United States after the attempted criminal coup at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Anyone identified as sympathetic, supportive, or financing these seditious acts that attempted to deny the peaceful transfer of power in our country should be treated with the same public condemnation that the Nazis received after World War II. This includes Nazified people in Congress, in the media, in universities, in regular jobs, and throughout society because fascism is not the fevered dream of one delusional man. Trump is a white supremacist; that he is also a deranged narcissist is really incidental.

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https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/20/the-nazification-of-the-republican-party/

PS: If the hobnailed boot fits, wear it, ‘Pukes.
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The Nazification of the Republican Party (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 OP
Power through violence Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #1
Agreed. "Kristallnacht" is what one good Republican called it. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #5
I laugh each time they do this because there's always at least one asshole who does it wrong. TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #44
That lady was a Trump administration official helping guide Kavanaugh into the SC Beakybird Jan 2021 #2
A real sweetheart. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #7
I've preferred to describe it as the "Sovietization" of the Republican Party... JHB Jan 2021 #3
Russiapublicans took over the Republican party. They admire Putin. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #10
Yes, but I started using the phrase during the Bush administration... JHB Jan 2021 #12
Sovietization is also most appropriate. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #14
Good point considering how Putin came to power... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #24
+1, phrase "racist terrorism" triggers them too uponit7771 Jan 2021 #46
Love this post. Thank you. Nt TexasLefty29 Jan 2021 #4
You are most welcome. More on the weaponized ideology... Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #17
Excellent article matt819 Jan 2021 #6
Think that we understand them perfectly UpInArms Jan 2021 #8
Truth. Memory. Justice. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #25
I'm okay with calling them Nazi. nt Hotler Jan 2021 #9
Me, too. I've said it before MurrayDelph Jan 2021 #15
Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party (Russ Bellant, 1989) Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #26
Thank you for sharing, I'll read it. nt Hotler Jan 2021 #27
My sentiments exactly. ananda Jan 2021 #11
Thanks! What FDR and Bertram Gross observed... Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #30
Fascism in some form has been with us since Reagan. ananda Jan 2021 #37
The Republican's have been suppressing voters and using gerrymandering for decades to stay in power. jalan48 Jan 2021 #13
FOX News' Roger Ailes was a Big Fan of Leni Riefenstahl, Hitler's favorite NAZI filmmaker. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #31
The reTHUGS do their ratfucking in plain sight. Why do we let them get away with it? abqtommy Jan 2021 #16
Because if anything is ever said about it... WyattKansas Jan 2021 #28
Maybe we can make some changes in the status quo... that'd sure be nice! abqtommy Jan 2021 #29
Ignorance, I hope. For instance, Fossil Fuels... Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #35
Thanks. So it really is a conspiracy we can attack through our laws... abqtommy Jan 2021 #36
Great article, especially when read in its entirety. mtnsnake Jan 2021 #18
Thank you, mtnsnake! Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #38
Trump "emboldened" the Nazis keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #19
There were American Nazis waiting for Hitler to take control in the 1930s... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #32
Madison Cawthorn's visit to Hitler's vacation home alarms his NC district's Jews Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #39
Excellent article. Thanks for posting. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #20
They want to destroy public education. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #40
Public education money is massive.. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #42
Ms. Ross, Tucker Carlson is begging to hear from you. soldierant Jan 2021 #21
"Our greatest ally." -- The Daily Nazi Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #41
1930s Germany had strict gun control laws. moondust Jan 2021 #22
The Reichwing and mind control, er, perception management... Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #43
They embraced it long ago and have been desperate to come out for decades. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #23
Chambers of Horror. I mean, Commerce. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #45
Thanks for posting the references and adding detail to this dialogue. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #47
Who is the woman in the picture? I read the OP twice. Didn't find it. nt LAS14 Jan 2021 #33
Zina Bash, esq. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #34

TheBlackAdder

(28,154 posts)
44. I laugh each time they do this because there's always at least one asshole who does it wrong.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jan 2021

.

Whether it's one person or a group, they always fuck it up--sort of like this:



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JHB

(37,149 posts)
3. I've preferred to describe it as the "Sovietization" of the Republican Party...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

...as I watched the Republicans increasingly embrace the sorts of things that I, growing up in the Cold War, had been taught were things the Soviets did and we didn't, and that's why we were better than them.

Covers much the same ground, for many of the same reasons, but it's a deeper dig because it's more recent and comparing them to the Soviets drives them nuts.

Torture? Rewriting history? Politburo-level political lockstep? They have it all.
And Movement Conservatism never lacked for people with a sneaking admiration of the Bolsheviks' effectiveness in seizing power. They'll deny it, though. Just ask Grover Norquist. Or Steve Brannon.

JHB

(37,149 posts)
12. Yes, but I started using the phrase during the Bush administration...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jan 2021

...which was still before "getting their marching orders from Moscow" was a Republican gig.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
14. Sovietization is also most appropriate.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:10 PM
Jan 2021

Only members of the Inner Party got the good stuff. After his exile to the West, Alexander Solzhenitsyn was surprised at the parallels.



From The Gulag Archipelago, Part 1, Chapter 4, “The Bluecaps”

Macbeth’s self-justifications were feeble—and his conscience devoured him. Yes, even Iago was a little lamb too. The imagination and the spiritual strength of Shakespeare’s evildoers stopped short at a dozen corpses. Because they had no ideology.

Ideology—that is what gives evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination….

Thanks to ideology, the twentieth century was fated to experience evildoing on a scale calculated in the millions. This cannot be denied, nor passed over, not suppressed. How, then, do we dare insist that evildoers to not exist? And who was it that destroyed these millions? Without evildoers there would have been no Archipelago."

Source: https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/notable-quotations

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
24. Good point considering how Putin came to power...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:34 PM
Jan 2021

in a sense, he's dangling the noose that Republicans are rabidly trying to use for the US to hang itself. We can't let this happen.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
17. You are most welcome. More on the weaponized ideology...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jan 2021
QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded

by Gregory Stanton
JustSecurity.org, September 9, 2020

Excerpt...

QAnon true believers think Donald Trump will rescue America from this Satanic cabal. At the time of “The Storm,” supporters of the cabal will be rounded up and executed.

The QAnon conspiracy theory has now spread to neo-Nazis in Germany, where over 200,000 German QAnon accounts infest the internet. A faction known as “Reichsbürger,” or citizens of the Reich, orchestrated a brief storming of Parliament on Aug. 29.

Many people are perplexed at how any rational person could fall for such an irrational conspiracy theory. But modern social science shows that people in groups don’t always think rationally. They respond to fear and terror. They blame their misfortunes on scapegoats. They support narcissistic demagogues they hope will rescue them.

In the 1930’s, millions of Europeans were unemployed. Violent battles between Nazis and Communists raged in city streets. Democratic governments were powerless. Fascist dictators ruled Spain and Italy. Hitler took power in Germany and conquered Western Europe. Stalin’s Communists conquered the East. The Hitler-Stalin Pact sealed totalitarian rule over most of Europe. It took World War II and the deaths of millions to defeat the Nazis’ genocidal tyranny, and another fifty years to free the gulags of the Soviet Union.

Today the American people suffer from a Plague. Millions of Americans have lost their jobs. Angry mobs roam American cities and battle militarized police and heavily armed militias. The American government seems to be paralyzed. Dictators rule Russia and China. Islamic fascists rule Saudi Arabia and the old Ottoman and Persian empires. The American President appeases Russia, scapegoats China for the pandemic, and looks the other way as Vladimir Putin and Mohammed bin Salman murder their opponents.

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https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

matt819

(10,749 posts)
6. Excellent article
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jan 2021

But the questions still remain about how to hold these American Nazis accountable. Sure, those arrested will be tried and, I hope, convicted. Others will make deals to identify others higher up the food chain. But what do Nuremberg-style trials/hearings look like as we move forward. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa can be a model, but that first word, truth, is a trigger with American Nazis. If they don't acknowledge their fascism and their crimes, there's no way we can get to reconciliation.

Those of us on the left don't really care to "understand" them any more. We understand all we care to, and we are not impressed.

This is not a new question, and I know it sounds kind of stupid asking it. But, what now?

UpInArms

(51,278 posts)
8. Think that we understand them perfectly
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jan 2021

They just don’t understand what they are doing is completely unacceptable.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
25. Truth. Memory. Justice.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:18 PM
Jan 2021

The Jewish Democratic Council of America held a conference...



We the People must hold these bastards to account. They did not start with Dump. They go back to the time leading up to the Schickelgrueber.

MurrayDelph

(5,291 posts)
15. Me, too. I've said it before
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jan 2021

If it was like a duck, and talks like a duck, but steps like a goose
It's a Nazi.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
26. Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party (Russ Bellant, 1989)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:10 PM
Jan 2021
Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party: Domestic Fascist Networks and Their Effect on U.S. Cold War Politics. by Russ Bellant (PDF)

https://www.russbellant.us/Bellant-Old_Nazis_the_New_Right_and_the_Republican_Party.pdf

It’s important to label them for what they are, NAZIs. If more had the guts back in Reagan’s day, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in today.

ananda

(28,828 posts)
11. My sentiments exactly.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

Fascism must be rooted out entirely.

It cannot be healed or forced into a decent
form of "unity."

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
30. Thanks! What FDR and Bertram Gross observed...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:16 PM
Jan 2021

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerated the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.” — President Franklin D. Roosevelt

Professor Bertram Gross said fascism was transformed, almost imperceptibly, but is the mechanism of making the rich richer and the rest under their thumb...

Friendly Fascism

The New Face of Power in America


by Bertram Gross

South End Press, 1980, paper

"As long as an economic system provides an acceptable degree of security, growing material wealth and opportunity for further increase for the next generation, the average American does not ask who is running things or what goals are being pursued." — Daniel R. Fusfeld

Introduction, Rise and Fall of Classic Fascism
The Takeoff Toward a New Corporate Society
The Mysterious Establishment
The Specter of Friendly Fascism
Subverting Democratic Machinery
Impossibility: It Couldn't Happen
Quotations

Source w/ links: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Friendly_Fascism_BGross.html

The Unfolding Logic

p161
... as I survey the entire panorama of contending forces, I can readily detect something more important: the outline of a powerful logic of events. This logic points toward tighter integration of every First World Establishment. In the United States it points toward more concentrated, unscrupulous, repressive, and militaristic control by a Big Business-Big Government partnership that-to preserve the privileges of the ultra-rich, the corporate overseers, and the brass in the military and civilian order-squelches the rights and liberties of other people both at home and abroad. That is friendly fascism.

p162
At any particular moment First World leaders may respond to crisis like people in a crowded night club when smoke and flames suddenly billow forth. They do not set up a committee to plan their response. Neither do they act in a random or haphazard fashion. Rather, the logic of the situation prevails. Everyone runs to where they think the exits are. In the ensuing melee some may be trampled to death. Those who know where the exits really are, who are most favorably situated, and have the most strength will save themselves.

Thus it was in Italy, Japan, and Germany when the classic fascists came to power. The crisis of depression, inflation, and class conflict provided an ideal opportunity for the cartels, warmongers, right-wing extremists, and rowdy street fighters to rush toward power. The fascist response was not worked out by some central cabal of secret conspirators. Nor was it a random or accidental development. The dominant logic of the situation prevailed.

Thus too it was after World War II. Neither First World unity nor the Golden International was the product of any central planners in the banking, industrial, political, or military community. Indeed, there was then-as there still is-considerable conflict among competing groups at the pinnacle of the major capitalist establishments. But there was a broad unfolding logic about the way these conflicts were adjusted and the "Free World" empire came into being. This logic involved hundreds of separate plans and planning committees-some highly visible, some less so, some secret. It encompassed the values and pressures of reactionaries, conservatives, and liberals. In some cases, it was a logic of response to anticapitalist movements and offensives that forced them into certain measures-like the expanded welfare state-which helped themselves despite themselves.

Although the friendly fascists are subversive elements, they rarely see themselves as such. Some are merely out to make money under conditions of stagflation. Some are merely concerned with keeping or expanding their power and privileges. Many use the rhetoric of freedom, liberty, democracy, human values, or even human rights. In pursuing their mutual interests through a new coalition of concentrated oligarchic power, people may be hurt-whether through pollution, shortages, unemployment, inflation, or war. But that is not part of their central purpose. It is the product of invisible hands that are not theirs.

Source: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Specter_FriendlyFascism_FF.html

ananda

(28,828 posts)
37. Fascism in some form has been with us since Reagan.
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 10:33 AM
Jan 2021

I believe that the USA transformed to corporate fascism after Reagan was elected, and became fully formed during the Bush years. We have been struggling with it ever since and still are.

The entire Republican party is owned by the rich and the corporate fascists, no question. The Democratic party is partly owned and partly free; and the people of the country have been very tolerant of all this, enough to even tolerate fullblown naziesque fascism for four years.

Now that we are able to undo some of the nazi horrors, at least, we can breathe a little easier. But we won't be free of fascism altogether without eliminating voter suppression and gerrymandering, nor without putting severe restrictions and limiations on big business and the rich. For example, campaign finance reform, the repeal of Citizens United, the breakup of monopolistic businesses, and tax reform would be required to do this.

Whether any of these reforms can happen is pretty iffy, but at least we have a little room to breathe for awhile.

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
13. The Republican's have been suppressing voters and using gerrymandering for decades to stay in power.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021

When it appeared that was no longer going to work they moved on to rigged election claims and fake news with Trump. Nazism is the logical continuation for their movement as they are running out of strategies.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
31. FOX News' Roger Ailes was a Big Fan of Leni Riefenstahl, Hitler's favorite NAZI filmmaker.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jan 2021

Absolutely. Republicans can’t win fair and square. They need to lie, cheat, steal, and subvert the Constitution.

As film and radio for the Third Reich, television became the Fourth’s tool for controlling minds.



According to the new biography (and a history going back a ways in GOP circles), The Loudest Voice In The Room: How The Brilliant, Bombastic Roger Ailes Built Fox News — And Divided A Country:



Ailes was “a big fan” of Leni Riefenstahl, Hitler’s notorious favorite filmmaker—not for her Nazi ideology but for her cinematic talent as a propagandist. “Ailes was especially taken by Riefenstahl’s use of camera angles.”

SOURCE: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/01/extraordinary-revelations-about-roger.html



Terry Gross of Fresh Air interviewed Gabriel Sherman, the guy who wrote, the book today.

This is the kind of information that Fox viewers might appreciate knowing before watching their television screens.

Something everyone should know: Roger Ailes and the Big Money has been in bed with Big NAZI for a long time.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
28. Because if anything is ever said about it...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jan 2021

The Democratic Party is brow beat by the media and general public about being so unfair to Republicans about their cheating.

The warped reality today is just a result of several decades of the Republican Party having their extremists protected and never having a reckoning about all their continued corruption and failures to the United States of America.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
35. Ignorance, I hope. For instance, Fossil Fuels...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:12 PM
Jan 2021
How the Fossil Fuel Industry Funds Fascism

The oil, gas, and coal industries support and fund white supremacy and far-right politics.


by Basal Sen
Other Words, Jan. 21, 2021

Excerpt...

This fascist putsch was implicitly supported by some elected leaders, including GOP members of Congress who continued to promote the thoroughly debunked falsehood that the 2020 elections were “stolen.” Worse still, there are early indications that some elected officials may have aided the violent mob more directly as well.

But this attempted coup wouldn’t have progressed to this point without large amounts of funding, too. And playing a disproportionately large role among business backers of fascism are fossil fuel companies and their owners and top executives.

My Institute for Policy Studies colleagues Chuck Collins and Omar Ocampo recently documented the top billionaire donors to the Trump campaign. In first place is Kelcy Warren, co-founder and board chair (and until last October, CEO) of Energy Transfer — the company behind the controversial Dakota Access Pipeline.

Trump’s wealthy backers over the years have also included the notorious (and now deceased) coal billionaire Robert Murray, who effectively bribed Trump and his former Energy Secretary Rick Perry to implement a policy agenda that would benefit Murray.

This isn’t a case of a few isolated billionaires backing one extremist politician. It’s a case of an entire industry filling the campaign coffers of politicians who’ve waged war on our democracy. In the 2020 election cycle alone, the oil and gas industries gave some $9.3 million to lawmakers who refused to certify the 2020 election results.

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/21/how-fossil-fuel-industry-funds-fascism

Explains a lot, who gets the money.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
38. Thank you, mtnsnake!
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:00 AM
Jan 2021

From Dr. Ross:



We must defend an open, democratic society against these forces of fascism disguised as a respectable Republican Party that encouraged a white supremacist insurrection that seeks to rule like kings above the law. They see calls for unity and civility as weakness, as all fascists do. They take advantage of an open society to undermine the incremental progress of the 20th century in race, gender, citizenship, national, and international relations. For over a century they’ve proven they can’t be trusted with military power, disrupting other democracies by fomenting wars and low-intensity conflicts around the world that have killed millions of people. They are unable to accept the complexity of a multi-cultural and multi-racial globalized world, so they stew in their resentments, and fight every effort to democratize the privileges and benefits of our world. They are at the natural demise of a political party that sought to hold onto power through a web of lies to their followers to enrich a small cabal of people.



We must do all we can to stop these bastards.

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
19. Trump "emboldened" the Nazis
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jan 2021

Trump "emboldened" the Nazis

America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

Yet here they are marching to "take back America".

When did the Nazis have America?

" Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.b54a0162fe07

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
32. There were American Nazis waiting for Hitler to take control in the 1930s...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:48 PM
Jan 2021

some of them even built a colony near Los Angeles, the ruins of which you can still see today:

https://www.hikespeak.com/trails/rustic-canyon-murphy-ranch-nazi-ruins

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
39. Madison Cawthorn's visit to Hitler's vacation home alarms his NC district's Jews
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:09 AM
Jan 2021


In a 2017 social media post from the Eagle’s Nest in Bavaria, the now 25-year-old Republican congressional candidate said the former haunt of the ‘Fuhrer’ was on his ‘bucket list’

By BEN SALES
14 August 2020, Times of Israel

JTA — The Jewish mayor of Asheville, North Carolina, said it is “very concerning” that the Republican congressional candidate in her district visited Adolf Hitler’s vacation home and referred to him as “the Fuhrer.”

The candidate, Madison Cawthorn, is running to represent western North Carolina in Congress. In a 2017 Instagram post from the Eagle’s Nest, Hitler’s vacation home that was one of the last battlegrounds of World War II, Cawthorn referred to Hitler as “the Fuhrer” and said the spot was on his “bucket list,” in addition to calling Hitler a “supreme evil.”

“ It’s very concerning,” Manheimer told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency Wednesday. “Throughout the last several years, since Trump has been elected president, I think all of us have seen that white supremacists are emboldened and are publicly making their positions known, and to elect someone to office who openly throws out dog whistles like this, it just makes me really sad, actually, first and foremost. It makes me sad, disappointed, worried.”

Cawthorn briefly took down the photos after the website Jezebel called attention to them. But they were publicly visible again Wednesday, and Cawthorn tweeted that the criticism is “another fake news controversy.” In defense of the post, he tweeted a photo of grinning Allied soldiers who conquered the Eagle’s Nest in 1945. “They weren’t celebrating evil; they were celebrating their victory over evil,” he wrote.

Continues...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/madison-cawthorns-visit-to-hitlers-vacation-home-alarms-his-nc-districts-jews/

PS: Thank you for the heads-up, keithbvadu2. Knowledge is power. And it’s sad how little such people know.

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
20. Excellent article. Thanks for posting.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

I've bookmarked it for future reference. Like this exerpt

Republicans are no longer entitled to exist as a legitimate political party because this authoritarian backlash has been building since new Civil Rights laws were passed in 1964 and 1965 in response to white racist violence captured on TV that required the National Guard to quell. Then-President Lyndon Johnson predicted that most white people would flee the Democratic Party to join the pro-segregationist, anti-feminist, and anti-gay revanchist political movement of George Wallace, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan. Every undemocratically selected Republican president since the 1960s (by an electoral college designed to be disenfranchising) has failed to repudiate this neo-fascist wing of their party.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
40. They want to destroy public education.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jan 2021

What Johann von Goethe said: “The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”



Bell Book Says Officials Told Racist Jokes : Reagan Aide Says He Doubts Claim by Ex-Education Secretary

October 21, 1987|Associated Press

WASHINGTON — President Reagan's first secretary of education says mid-level Administration officials made racist jokes and other scurrilous remarks during civil rights discussions, but Reagan's chief spokesman said Tuesday he does not believe it.

Terrel H. Bell, in a memoir of Reagan's first term, said the slurs included references to the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as "Martin Lucifer Coon" and calling Title IX, a federal law guaranteeing women equal educational opportunity, "the lesbian's bill of rights."

SNIP...

Bell did not identify those who made the racist or scurrilous comments. He could not be reached for further comment.

In his book, he says the jokes about King were made as Reagan was deciding whether to sign or veto a bill establishing King's birthday as a national holiday. He eventually signed it.

Bell said: "I do not mean to imply that these scurrilous remarks were common utterances in the rooms and corridors of the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, but I heard them when issues related to civil rights enforcement weighed heavily on my mind."

Bell added: "It seemed obvious they were said for my benefit, since they often accompanied sardonic references to 'Comrade Bell.' "

CONTINUED...

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-21/news/mn-9912_1_racist-jokes

PS: Thank you for caring — and understanding, mountain grammy.

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
42. Public education money is massive..
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:49 AM
Jan 2021

it's the lion's share of our property tax bill and most everyone else's. Republicans have wanted private control of this money forever. Charter schools are mostly a money grubbing scheme and religious schools should be receive no public funds due to the First Amendment, but they do.

Between fight public schools and embracing religious fanatics, the republican party has gone full out Nazi. That's who they are.

soldierant

(6,776 posts)
21. Ms. Ross, Tucker Carlson is begging to hear from you.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:14 PM
Jan 2021

(If only he had enough of an attention span to actually learn from you.)

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
41. "Our greatest ally." -- The Daily Nazi
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jan 2021
Guess who said it: Tucker Carlson or a far-right shooter

The Fox New host’s nightly diatribes are making the US an ever more terrifying place for immigrants and people of color


Nathan Robinson
The Guardian, Aug. 10, 2019

It’s not surprising Tucker Carlson doesn’t think white supremacy is a threat to the United States. It’s easy not to notice a problem when the problem is you. Speaking on his show, Carlson called widespread racism a “hoax” and said: “Just like the Russia hoax, it’s a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power.” Carlson encouraged viewers not to think about racism, saying that “every minute you’re angry about race is a minute you’re not thinking about class, which is of course the real divide in this country”.

If I were Tucker Carlson, I wouldn’t want people to think about racism either. If they did, they might start to notice that Carlson’s rhetoric about non-white people has long been virtually identical to that of white supremacist terrorists in New Zealand and El Paso. Here, for example, is a passage from Carlson’s most recent book, on the topic of why “diversity” makes us weaker:

When confronted or pressed for details, [proponents of diversity] retreat into a familiar platitude, which they repeat like a zen koan: diversity is our strength. But is diversity our strength? The less we have in common, the stronger we are? Is that true of families? Is it true in neighborhoods or businesses? Of course not. Then why is it true of America? Nobody knows. Nobody’s even allowed to ask the question.


And here is an excerpt from the manifesto issued by the man who killed 51 people in a New Zealand mosque:

Why is diversity said to be our greatest strength? Does anyone even ask why? It is spoken like a mantra and repeated ad infinitum … But no one ever seems to give a reason why. What gives a nation strength? And how does diversity increase that strength? What part of diversity causes this increase in strength? No one can give an answer.


Continues...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/10/tucker-carlson-fox-news-united-states-race

I wonder why no one brings this up on Fox Noise or the New York Times?

moondust

(19,954 posts)
22. 1930s Germany had strict gun control laws.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jan 2021
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Few German citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the early 1930s, the Weimar Republic having strict gun control laws. When the Nazi party gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened, such as allowing firearm ownership for Nazi party members and the military. The laws were tightened in other ways. Nazi laws systematically disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for so-called "ordinary" German citizens. The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_argument

I think the 2nd Amendment argument about "protection from tyrannical government" has been exaggerated/distorted to feed the "evil government" narrative of RW wackos.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
43. The Reichwing and mind control, er, perception management...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jan 2021


Angus Mackenzie: "Secrets: The CIA's War at Home"

EXCERPT...

A month later someone at the CIA leaked the news of MHCHAOS to Sy Hersh at the New York Times. The story, while sparse, made public the fact that the agency was spying on its citizens. Gerald Ford, in office for less than five months, directed William Colby to issue a report on MHCHAOS to Henry Kissinger. As Mackenzie writes, evidently Ford was not informed that Kissinger was well aware of the operation. He adds:

Because of MHCHAOS and Watergate, Congress began to investigate the CIA. On September 16, 1975 Senators Frank Church and John Tower called Colby to testify at a hearing about CIA assassinations. Colby showed up carrying a CIA poison dart gun, and Church waved the gun before the televison cameras. It looked like an automatic pistol with a telescopic sight mounted on the barrel. Producers of the evening news recognized this as sensational footage, and just as surely Colby recognized his days as director were numbered. He had not guarded the CIA secrets well enough.


Colby was fired on November 2, 1975. His successor was George Herbert Walker Bush.....

Mackenzie's account of Bush's rise and and his fall when Carter assumed office is brief, but intriguing. There is much, much more in Secrets about CIA efforts throughout the years in guarding their work from the public in this under-recognized work. The epilogue is entitled "The Cold War Ends and Secrecy Spreads." Mackenzie closes by writing:

Only recently in the history of the world's oldest republic has secrecy functioned principally to keep the American people in the dark about the nefarious activities of their government. The United States is no longer the nation its citizens once thought: a place, unlike most others in the world, free from censorship and thought police, where people can say what they want, when they want to, about their government. Almost a decade after the end of the cold war, espionage is not the issue, if it ever really was. The issue is freedom... Until the citizens of this land aggressively defend their First Amendment rights of free speech, there is little hope that this march to censorship will be reversed. The survival of the cornerstone of the Bill of Rights is at stake.


Succumbing to brain cancer before he turned fifty, Mackenzie sadly did not live to see the meteoric rise of the internet, nor did he live to see 9/11 and the current Bush Administration and their obsessive devotion to secrecy.

This work has relevance to the current situation regarding the agency's efforts to keep George Joannides' records secret.

SOURCE: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10617

Ford_Prefect

(7,865 posts)
23. They embraced it long ago and have been desperate to come out for decades.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:34 PM
Jan 2021

It became formalized under Grover Norquist and others who developed and implemented a plan to formalize absolute party loyalty and gain control of state party governments in order to enable single party rule in America by controlling and distorting redistricting to favor permanent republican majorities.

They have been marching down this road for more than 40 years and the major corporate financiers of the party were onboard with it as long as they got their perks and did not get exposed for knowing collaboration. They shared the same goals after all: dominion over the earth's resources and wealth by any means, and the subjugation of laborers and governments to suit.

They have encouraged and funded Racist, Nativist and Religious extremists as useful idiots to distract and oppose political progressives and oppose democratic government.

Kid Berwyn

(14,764 posts)
45. Chambers of Horror. I mean, Commerce.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy


The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

Source: TUC Radio

Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/

Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/

Ford_Prefect

(7,865 posts)
47. Thanks for posting the references and adding detail to this dialogue.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jan 2021

Corporate crocodiles hiding under the water...

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