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Messages Gathered by FBI re Legislators--"Seal Them In...." (Original Post) leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 OP
The full extent of what was planned and the events that day are going to be shocking Pachamama Jan 2021 #1
Article's behind a paywall, but I assume the title should be... regnaD kciN Jan 2021 #2
Are you sure? exboyfil Jan 2021 #4
True leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #6
Wondering the same. Amaryllis Jan 2021 #7
We need to know if any legislators sent these messages! n/t servermsh Jan 2021 #3
This leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #8
Round these traitors up, lock them up and we will get to the trial soon. Bluethroughu Jan 2021 #5
Seal them in, turn on gas? peggysue2 Jan 2021 #9
Unfortunately, justice has only been served on one seditionist, so far. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #10
The Text is Clear. These Were NOT Messages to the FBI but Rather Messages Collected by the FBI. Indykatie Jan 2021 #11
Thanks for that tip leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #12
Self-styled militia members planned on storming the U.S. Capitol days in advance of Jan. 6 attack CatWoman Jan 2021 #13
.... CatWoman Jan 2021 #14
.... CatWoman Jan 2021 #15
.... CatWoman Jan 2021 #16
Thanks leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #18
Who are these messages coming from? blueinredohio Jan 2021 #17
Not shown leighbythesea2 Jan 2021 #19
Pretty sure the FBI already knows. GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #20

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. Article's behind a paywall, but I assume the title should be...
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jan 2021

..."Messages gathered by FBI," not "Messages to FBI."

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. Are you sure?
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:25 PM
Jan 2021

Lots of weird stuff happening that day, but I have been assured that the other General Flynn had nothing to do with it.

Bluethroughu

(5,154 posts)
5. Round these traitors up, lock them up and we will get to the trial soon.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:26 PM
Jan 2021

After we capture the other few thousands involved.

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
11. The Text is Clear. These Were NOT Messages to the FBI but Rather Messages Collected by the FBI.
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:41 PM
Jan 2021

I have a WP subscription but I think they allow 5 or so free articles a month. Once you use those you can open a new incognito window and read 5 more. I used that trick with the NY Times but I rarely bother reading their articles any more.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
12. Thanks for that tip
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:45 PM
Jan 2021

I go thru my free so quickly. I then rely on excerpts where i can find them.

I just saw page 22 of the document for context.
Its to Caldwell, yes collected by FBI.

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
13. Self-styled militia members planned on storming the U.S. Capitol days in advance of Jan. 6 attack
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:49 PM
Jan 2021

Self-styled militia members planned on storming the U.S. Capitol days in advance of Jan. 6 attack, court documents say

By
Spencer S. Hsu,
Tom Jackman and
Devlin Barrett
Jan. 19, 2021 at 8:28 p.m. EST


Self-styled militia members from Virginia, Ohio and other states made plans to storm the U.S. Capitol days in advance of the Jan. 6 attack, and then communicated in real time as they breached the building on opposite sides and talked about hunting for lawmakers, according to court documents filed Tuesday.

While authorities have charged more than 100 individuals in the riot, details in the new allegations against three U.S. military veterans offer a disturbing look at what they allegedly said to one another before, during and after the attack — statements that indicate a degree of preparation and determination to rush deep into the halls and tunnels of Congress to make “citizens’ arrests” of elected officials.

U.S. authorities charged an apparent leader of the Oath Keepers extremist group, Thomas Edward Caldwell, 66, of Berryville, Va., in the attack, alleging that the Navy veteran helped organize a ring of dozens who coordinated their movements as they “stormed the castle” to disrupt the confirmation of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral college victory.

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
14. ....
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:50 PM
Jan 2021

We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan,” co-defendant Jessica Watkins, 38, an Army veteran, said while the breach was underway, according to court documents.

“You are executing citizen’s arrest. Arrest this assembly, we have probable cause for acts of treason, election fraud,” a man replied, according to audio recordings of communications between Watkins and others during the incursion.

“We are in the main dome right now. We are rocking it. They are throwing grenades, they are fricking shooting people with paint balls. But we are in here,” a woman believed to be Watkins said, according to court documents.

A man then responds, “Get it, Jess,” adding, “This is .?.?. everything we f---ing trained for!”

The FBI said it recovered the exchange from Zello, a push-to-talk, two-way radio phone app.

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
15. ....
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:51 PM
Jan 2021

FBI charging papers against Caldwell, Watkins and a third person, former U.S. Marine Donovan Crowl, 50, allege that Caldwell and others coordinated in advance to disrupt Congress, scouted for lodging and recruited Oath Keepers members from North Carolina and like-minded groups from the Shenandoah Valley. The group claims thousands of members who assert the right to defy government orders they deem improper. The plotters both anticipated violence and continued to act in concert after the break-in, investigators alleged in court documents. FBI papers also say that Caldwell suggested a similar event at the local level after the attack, saying in a message: “Lets storm the capitol in Ohio. Tell me when!”

The three are charged with five federal counts of conspiracy against the United States; obstructing an official government proceeding; impeding or injuring government officers; and destroying U.S. property, entering restricted grounds and disorderly conduct at the Capitol.

Attempts to reach attorneys for Caldwell, Watkins and Crowl have been unsuccessful. No one immediately responded to messages left at numbers connected to Caldwell.

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
16. ....
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:51 PM
Jan 2021

Watkins, of Woodstock, Ohio, told the Ohio Capital Journal last week that she formed a group known as the Ohio State Regular Militia in 2019 and that it had patrolled 12 protests to “protect people” on both sides. She said she had served a tour in Afghanistan while in the Army. She also said she was a member of the Oath Keepers.

“I didn’t commit a crime. I didn’t destroy anything. I didn’t wreck anything,” Watkins said to the Journal, adding that the riot was a peaceful protest that turned violent.

Crowl’s mother, Teresa Rowe, said she was appalled to see pictures of him in the Capitol. She said he had become radicalized after leaving the Marine Corps.

“I wish I could tell people what happened to him, but I don’t know,” Rowe said.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
18. Thanks
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:58 PM
Jan 2021

For adding this.
Also update OP.
I see there's a lot on this every few minutes on twitter now, and more threads here. Who was giving out locations, seemingly from inside.? We can probably guess. This is, quite frankly, the most distressing thing i have read, since jan 6. What else will come out?

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
19. Not shown
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jan 2021

In document. Just that Caldwell received detailed info on whereabouts in messages. I hope they already know.

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