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No, these are just racist shitty people . There are lots of them in this country JI7 Jan 2021 #1
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They are invested in voter suppression because there were 81 million that don't support it JI7 Jan 2021 #8
Without voter suppression Biden would moonscape Jan 2021 #10
there are more, many registered did not vote Celerity Jan 2021 #12
A lot are non-racist shitty people fine w racist shitty people representing them Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #13
That was convoluted canetoad Jan 2021 #15
No. It was not convoluted. It was easy to read. I will not dumb it down. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #17
I wish you would read the OP carefully canetoad Jan 2021 #14
I wish you would read the posts carefully. You responded this to Curbside, not your "you". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #16
Yeah, I noticed that canetoad Jan 2021 #18
Your personal attack has no place here on DU. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #19
But I was canetoad Jan 2021 #20
Don't be disingenuous. People see through your post. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #21
I hope they do. nt canetoad Jan 2021 #23
Well, I love you canetoad! panader0 Jan 2021 #31
Please send this to President Biden and VP Harris judesedit Jan 2021 #2
Wow! samplegirl Jan 2021 #3
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"but I am certain it would have been returned nicely filled out" BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #7
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"The First Amendment guarantees you the right to speak" BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #30
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Read my post again carefully. BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #36
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Methinks thou doth protest too much. BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #45
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You lost me a long time ago when BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #53
Zip code ending in three comment is wrong. we can do it Jan 2021 #38
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Glad to help. we can do it Jan 2021 #55
Bookmarked. This needs to be circulated. secondwind Jan 2021 #4
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Do not push this. It is so offensive arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #11
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Which explains Florida Aviation Pro Jan 2021 #24
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Nursing homes and guardianship in Florida are so corrupt John Oliver... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2021 #39
Many red states still voted on ES&S machines rainy Jan 2021 #27
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When my grandparents were in a nursing home... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2021 #29
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In this particular case I can absolutely tell you my aunt voted for Republicans. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2021 #33
So what happened when you reported Hav Jan 2021 #35
Probably nothing because BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #37
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When you post an OP in General Discussion, your OPs are available for anyone to read BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #43
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Being "challenged" has nothing to do with BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #47
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So your answer is BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #52
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JI7

(89,246 posts)
1. No, these are just racist shitty people . There are lots of them in this country
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:13 AM
Jan 2021

they aren't victims.

Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

JI7

(89,246 posts)
8. They are invested in voter suppression because there were 81 million that don't support it
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 06:43 AM
Jan 2021

but there ARE 74 million that are just fine with it .

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
10. Without voter suppression Biden would
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 06:52 AM
Jan 2021

have gotten even more votes.

Not all 74 million are racist shitty people, but there are a lot of brainwashed emotion voters who get their propaganda spoon fed and believe liberals are going to turn us into a communist country, etc etc. Those are folks who despise us because of what they’ve been told as much as we despise Trump.

Celerity

(43,299 posts)
12. there are more, many registered did not vote
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:02 AM
Jan 2021

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
13. A lot are non-racist shitty people fine w racist shitty people representing them
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:03 AM
Jan 2021

... because it advances their other non-racist shitty agendas.

But many are of course so stupid they don't know they are racist. They think that systemic racism is not possible today in the USA. They say things like "you had a black man for President -- see, no racism".

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
15. That was convoluted
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:06 AM
Jan 2021

And cryptic Bernardo. Care to rephrase in three words?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
17. No. It was not convoluted. It was easy to read. I will not dumb it down.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:11 AM
Jan 2021

Kind of a disrespectful request to ask someone to boil a DU post down to three words.

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
14. I wish you would read the OP carefully
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:04 AM
Jan 2021

You are arguing at cross purposes.

Curbside has a bloody good point.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
16. I wish you would read the posts carefully. You responded this to Curbside, not your "you". . . nt
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:09 AM
Jan 2021

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
18. Yeah, I noticed that
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:11 AM
Jan 2021

Straight after I posted and decided it wasn't worth correcting. You kinda make a profession of being unpleasant, but no problems, I luv you anyway.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
19. Your personal attack has no place here on DU. . . . . nt
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:13 AM
Jan 2021

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
20. But I was
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:17 AM
Jan 2021

Explaining how much I love you. How is that a personal attack?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
21. Don't be disingenuous. People see through your post. . . nt
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jan 2021

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
23. I hope they do. nt
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:30 AM
Jan 2021

panader0

(25,816 posts)
31. Well, I love you canetoad!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:21 AM
Jan 2021

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
2. Please send this to President Biden and VP Harris
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:17 AM
Jan 2021

samplegirl

(11,476 posts)
3. Wow!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:28 AM
Jan 2021

Great post! All makes sense.

Response to samplegirl (Reply #3)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
7. "but I am certain it would have been returned nicely filled out"
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 06:41 AM
Jan 2021

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
30. "The First Amendment guarantees you the right to speak"
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jan 2021

But the First Amendment only applies to the right to petition the government to address grievances and that government makes no laws to prohibit doing that.

But DU is not "the government".

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
36. Read my post again carefully.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:38 AM
Jan 2021

Very carefully.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
45. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jan 2021

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #45)

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
53. You lost me a long time ago when
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:47 AM
Jan 2021

you started talking about the purported goings-on in Hampshire County, MA and their colleges.

we can do it

(12,180 posts)
38. Zip code ending in three comment is wrong.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:44 AM
Jan 2021

Lived in one for years, have friends and family who live in different ones.

Response to we can do it (Reply #38)

we can do it

(12,180 posts)
55. Glad to help.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 AM
Jan 2021

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
4. Bookmarked. This needs to be circulated.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:52 AM
Jan 2021

Response to secondwind (Reply #4)

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
11. Do not push this. It is so offensive
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:01 AM
Jan 2021

My oldest son is autistic and now lives in a group home. He voted all his life, for Bill Clinton and Obama. In order for him to move into the home, my husband and I had to go to court for guardianship. At the court, the judge TOOK AWAY HIS RIGHT TO VOTE. My husband, who was a lawyer has passed away, so I must pay thousands to try to restore his voting rights. I did not try because I was afraid of just this, that someone would start something about mentally challenged people voting. Stop this now. This is Democratic Underground. If you know of a corrupt and abusive care facility, do what my husband and I did, get them shut down. Support community homes. Support self advocacy. DO NOT PUSH RESTRICTIONS OF VOTING RIGHTS.

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Aviation Pro

(12,149 posts)
24. Which explains Florida
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:35 AM
Jan 2021

N/t

Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #24)

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
39. Nursing homes and guardianship in Florida are so corrupt John Oliver...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jan 2021

did one of his exposes on the situation. It's horrific, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if voter fraud is made extremely easy because of it.

I honestly have no idea if it is done on a scale necessary to impact the outcome of an election, but do believe it should be scrutinized to find out how prevalent it is.

rainy

(6,090 posts)
27. Many red states still voted on ES&S machines
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:48 AM
Jan 2021

Remember how off the polls suddenly were the year we started using them? Remember Carl Rove? Trump reportedly called him in to help with the election. Those machines were rigged for McConnall.

https://www.dcreport.org/2020/12/31/ess-voting-systems-a-friend-to-republicans/

Response to rainy (Reply #27)

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
29. When my grandparents were in a nursing home...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:09 AM
Jan 2021

one of my aunts coordinated with a member of the staff to fill out their ballots despite neither being aware of it. We only found out years later when my aunt bragged about being able to cast three votes for her preferred candidates. I have thought about this a lot over the years and wondered how widespread it was.

I have only one quibble with your post. You said, "Were those Dubya ballots real and valid?

What you described sounds like voter fraud meaning the ballots are real, but invalid. Though I completely get your point that the election officials in charge of counting, tabulating, and certifying would have no way of knowing this and cannot be held accountable for recognizing the ballots as fraudulent.

More definitely needs to be done to increase awareness and instill oversight and accountability. Thank you for raising the issue.

Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #29)

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
33. In this particular case I can absolutely tell you my aunt voted for Republicans.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:28 AM
Jan 2021

Absolutely no doubt in my mind. She is a god, guns, and gays Republican straight down the line.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
35. So what happened when you reported
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:31 AM
Jan 2021

that this manager filled out ballots for the patients? That was clearly illegal, it was probably easy to verify and it would have sent that person to prison for many years.

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
37. Probably nothing because
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:43 AM
Jan 2021

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #37)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
43. When you post an OP in General Discussion, your OPs are available for anyone to read
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:58 AM
Jan 2021

and people who post OPs are hoping/expecting people to read them. Do you have a problem with being challenged?

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #43)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
47. Being "challenged" has nothing to do with
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:11 AM
Jan 2021

making someone "feel unwelcome" if someone does not buy what you write. It means that your content is being scrutinized without the emotionalism of the fiery pronouncements and grandiose claims that you have been making here.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #47)

BumRushDaShow

(128,831 posts)
52. So your answer is
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:38 AM
Jan 2021

ad hominems?

M'kay.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #52)

Response to Hav (Reply #35)

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