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Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:28 PM

About dead people voting.

So we have heard from Rand Paul and others about dead voters. Let's look a little closer at the situation in Wisconsin.

Here is an article that addresses several complaints that could be looked into.

[link:https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/in-thousands-of-complaints-about-wisconsin-election-none-we-could-substantiate/article_e7f37ef6-4072-536c-aea6-4427de4fcc99.html|



From that article:

Dead voters

Nicole Granato of Menasha said that just by going through publicly available obituaries and the state’s voter information website, she said she was able to find 42 people who voted early but who died before Election Day, meaning that under state law, their votes shouldn’t have been counted.

Another man, who did not respond to a request for comment, emailed Tusler and Assembly Speaker Robin Vos on Nov. 17 alleging that someone he did not name in the village of Brandon in Fond du Lac County “voted and has been dead for many years.”

Fond du Lac County Clerk Lisa Freiberg said that after speaking with officials in Brandon, she thought she knew who the deceased person in Brandon was but that his ballot was never returned and there was nothing in the village’s post-election numbers to suggest anything amiss.

Granato provided records from the state’s MyVote website, which allows people to track a person’s voting history if they have the voter’s name and date of birth. She found 42 people from around Wisconsin who are listed as having voted in the Nov. 3 election but who also appear, according to obituaries that bear the same name and birth date, to have died before that date.

“The fact that I was able to easily find 42 people who voted who died before 11/03 is concerning,” she wrote Assembly Speaker Robin Vos in a Nov. 18 email. “It warrants investigation.”

Granato acknowledged to the State Journal that there’s no way to know how those 42 people voted and that the small number of votes weren’t enough to swing the presidential election.

Wisconsin law instructs Wisconsin clerks not to count absentee votes from people who have died before the election if they have proof they are in fact deceased, but in the absence of such proof, “The casting of the ballot of a deceased elector does not invalidate the election.”

Magney said that the WEC gets lists of people who have died from the Department of Health Services and those names are checked against the state voter list. When it appears there’s a match, an alert is sent to the local clerk so the clerk can update the poll book, he said. “I can’t say that every single registration list alert was addressed before the election, but I know we did a lot of work to bring that number down.”


Here's some statistics for those who need to some facts with real numbers.

[link:https://www.indexmundi.com/clocks/indicator/deaths/united-states|

In Wisconsin, 138 people die every day...6 an hour. That figures to .00236% of the entire population dying per day. 1,957,514 voted absentee and each day about 46 of that number died (on average). If the voting occurred over a period of 30 days, it is probable 1380 total died....about two thirds before election day. That's about 920 that shouldn't have been counted, but these would, according to the article, not invalidate the election. Further, that anyone would call such voting, "Voter fraud" is ludicrous.

Granato, only able to find 42, should be investigated to see what she is hiding.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

1. States differ

Some states, like South Carolina, allow votes of dead people to count as long as the person was still alive when it was cast. My late husband cast an absentee vote for Obama before he passed on November 1, 2008. I was pleased [and I'm sure he would have been] that it counted.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:40 PM

2. Odds are, votes of those who died were closely split.

This is a huge nothingburger.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:03 AM

6. Excellent point

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:58 PM

3. Repubs like to take insignificant anecdotal occurances and blow them all out of proportion to

validate their wild claims. It sounds real bad that all those dead people are voting and of course they'd all be voting for Dems.

And of course the cult eats it up.

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:10 PM

4. Stupid law. If you voted legally, should not matter that you later died. Easy enough fix.

I mean, if you go to the polls on Election Day, and later that day suffer a heart attack, or get hit by a car, is your vote not counted?

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Response to rgbecker (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:11 PM

5. I know of a dying man who made a point of voting for Trump before he died.

He had terminal cancer and had his wife drop his completed absentee ballot at the county BOE the same day he received it. He died 2 weeks later. He cast a legal vote. As far as I know it was counted.

If I follow the MAGA mindset - since 1 dead person voted for Trump, we need to throw out ALL Trump votes nation wide.

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