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Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:48 PM Jan 2021

Does Portman's "retirement" signal a guilty vote for impeachment?

It avoids getting primaryed or otherwise attacked by Trump cult. What other incumbent GOP Sen. might take this route. Not having to run against incumbent Sen. is great news for Dem. hopefuls.

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Does Portman's "retirement" signal a guilty vote for impeachment? (Original Post) Pantagruel Jan 2021 OP
I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone know what impeachment comments he has made? servermsh Jan 2021 #1
I tend to doubt it. Republicanism to the bone Walleye Jan 2021 #2
She's not walking it back Loki Liesmith Jan 2021 #17
Good. She has more ethics and morality and probably intelligence than most of the GOP Walleye Jan 2021 #18
I wouldn't count on it. madaboutharry Jan 2021 #3
Trump is such an obvious scoundrel Pantagruel Jan 2021 #6
Rob will vote in the way that most benefits him personally. Always has, always will. CincyDem Jan 2021 #12
1,000 times this. Well said! n/t ok_cpu Jan 2021 #15
Oh, and add actual death threats to that. I'm betting he votes no Walleye Jan 2021 #19
Hope that he's swimming toward the light! Mopar151 Jan 2021 #13
A no vote would undermine his career as a lobbyist and speaker StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #22
Fingers crossed secondwind Jan 2021 #4
The first impeachment had retirees who didn't flip lame54 Jan 2021 #5
Impeachment facts Pantagruel Jan 2021 #11
Same republicans - same result lame54 Jan 2021 #16
I hope it signals an impending switch to the Democratic Party. Laelth Jan 2021 #7
Maybe independent, but never a Dem RainCaster Jan 2021 #8
I thought the same about Arlen Specter. Laelth Jan 2021 #10
Yep- all it takes is one RainCaster Jan 2021 #20
That's what I'm thinking lisa58 Jan 2021 #9
I'm guessing the 2022 GOP nominee for his seat will a RW extremist Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #14
"the 2022 GOP nominee for his seat will a RW extremist" Pantagruel Jan 2021 #21

Walleye

(31,016 posts)
2. I tend to doubt it. Republicanism to the bone
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jan 2021

I was surprised by Lynn Cheney. Still waiting for her to walk it back. She laid out the clearest case against him in a few short sentences. Maybe she’s hard-headed enough to stick by it.

Walleye

(31,016 posts)
18. Good. She has more ethics and morality and probably intelligence than most of the GOP
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jan 2021

I can think of her as a worthy opponent. Most of the others are just trash

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
3. I wouldn't count on it.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

Portman doesn't want to put is post Senate career as a lobbyist and speaker in the republican biosphere in jeopardy. My money is on a no vote. Maybe he will surprise us, but I doubt it.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
6. Trump is such an obvious scoundrel
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jan 2021

opposing him is not necessarily bad for your GOP credentials and it's getting more acceptable.
The best news is it's all good for Dems to have this turmoil in the GOP.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
12. Rob will vote in the way that most benefits him personally. Always has, always will.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021


That's just who he is. Thinking he's gonna vote to convict is hoping a leopard will change its spots.

He has only done one thing that's bucked the party line in his whole career and that's come out for marriage equality - only then after his son came out and his wife explained the facts of life to him if he didn't announce his support. So even the only good thing he's ever done was personally motivated.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
13. Hope that he's swimming toward the light!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

Centrists will be in demand in the lobbying world. Especially those who are actually speaking to Democrats as colleagues.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
22. A no vote would undermine his career as a lobbyist and speaker
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

The people who do the hiring and pay the big bucks in that space aren't looking for MAGA cult members.

If he's trying to salvage his post-Senate career, the only way to do that is to vote to convict. Otherwise, why announce his retirement now?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
7. I hope it signals an impending switch to the Democratic Party.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:59 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe he wants to be remembered for “doing the right thing” in his last two years in office.



-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. I thought the same about Arlen Specter.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jan 2021

You never know. Besides, Independent would be fine so long as he caucused with us.



-Laelth

Fiendish Thingy

(15,596 posts)
14. I'm guessing the 2022 GOP nominee for his seat will a RW extremist
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe the requirement for all 2022 GOP non-incumbent candidates will be “proud patriot who stormed the Capitol on 1/6/21”...

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
21. "the 2022 GOP nominee for his seat will a RW extremist"
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jan 2021

Given the evidence that's going to come out this year, I think that's helpful to Dems.

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