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Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:36 PM

Joe Manchin concerned re Covid Bill $$ amounts, but

In the press conference today it was noted that the FIRST state to receive a FEMA VACCINATION CENTER IS GOING TO BE, you guessed it, West Virginia.

Hell, by the end of summer Joe will get six lane highways running all over the state to the FEMA Center.

But he is CONCERNED. about all that money being proposed.

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Reply Joe Manchin concerned re Covid Bill $$ amounts, but (Original post)
Captain Zero Jan 25 OP
BlueIdaho Jan 25 #1
Loki Liesmith Jan 25 #2
Proud liberal 80 Jan 25 #3
Post removed Jan 25 #4
OnDoutside Jan 25 #6
irisblue Jan 25 #8
Bluethroughu Jan 25 #5
OnDoutside Jan 25 #7
Bluethroughu Jan 25 #12
OnDoutside Jan 25 #27
moose65 Jan 25 #15
MyOwnPeace Jan 25 #28
OnDoutside Jan 25 #29
cilla4progress Jan 25 #9
BGBD Jan 25 #23
cilla4progress Jan 25 #30
Walleye Jan 25 #10
gldstwmn Jan 25 #11
BGBD Jan 25 #34
Mr.Bill Jan 25 #13
uponit7771 Jan 25 #16
W_HAMILTON Jan 25 #18
Mr.Bill Jan 25 #20
BGBD Jan 25 #24
LenaBaby61 Jan 25 #21
Mr.Bill Jan 25 #22
BGBD Jan 25 #33
BGBD Jan 25 #25
Mr.Bill Jan 25 #26
BGBD Jan 25 #31
GeorgeGist Jan 25 #14
MyOwnPeace Jan 25 #32
KayF Jan 25 #17
Wounded Bear Jan 25 #19
bigtree Jan 25 #35
cilla4progress Jan 25 #36

Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:40 PM

1. Maybe he could tell us all

Which groups donít deserve relief during this crisis.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:40 PM

2. Hey man I'm willing to relocate Silicon Valley to Wheeling

If we can get some good votes out of him.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:41 PM

3. Every time I think I don't like Manchin

I remind myself that we are lucky to have him and the alternative would be x1000 times worse

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Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:45 PM

6. That's unfair. I'd advise deleting that before someone (not me) alerts it.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:42 PM

5. Well he should be more concerned about the people in

This Country.

Snap out of it Manchin, don't get power hungry, you will be written into history on the wrong side. If your paying any attention, it very ugly over there.

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:47 PM

7. He holds a Democratic seat in a Red State, he needs to be concerned about his next election. Fund WV

and give him the credit. It's pennies in the overall scheme of things.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:02 PM

12. I could careless how much money is spent on the commons

Or people, I don't mean corporations my friend. I want him to prove to the red state voters, DEMOCRATIC POLICIES work for everyone, and the only way to do that is get the policies implemented when people need them. This will prove who is working for them.

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:00 PM

27. Completely agree, Manchin knows his state and those people have

been let down so often by Republicans, there's an opportunity to make a difference.


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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:09 PM

15. He's not up for re-election again until 2024

He doesn't have to pander right now.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:03 PM

28. I think he's using "pandering" to make his own "power play."

I think he'll continue to play the "poor me in the 'red state'" card as long as he can get away with it.

Yes, deliver the goods to those that need (as EVERY government worker should be doing) - but don't hold your vote back to gain more power. Instead of working to convince US why we need HIM (and threatening to withhold votes), HE should be busy convincing W.VA why THEY need him (by promising votes from US!).

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Response to moose65 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:04 PM

29. I remember hearing rumours last year that he might be interested

in WV Governor.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:48 PM

9. His constituents need to be

better informed, made to see what is truly in their best interests.

He should be doing it. He's got an edge right now as a Dem senator in a red state.

But if he won't, I guess we (with help from Stacy Abrams!) will have to!

I think it's just laziness on his part.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:39 PM

23. Lol

What is Stacy Abrams, or anyone else going to do?

One democrat can hold a senate seat in WV and its Joe Manchin. Nobody else has a snowballs chance in hell.

But I'm sure your plan to come tell all the poor ignorant country bumpkins about whats best for them will go over really well.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:09 PM

30. slight misinterpretation

maybe intentional

bye now. it's been fun

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:58 PM

10. The direct payments not only help individual people. They are to boost the economy

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:01 PM

11. We need more seats.

Who is flippable in '22?

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:35 PM

34. A bunch

Open seats in NC, PA, and OH...all republican retirements.

Ron Johnson is also up for reelection in WI and we will be going after that seat with a fury.

Warnock will have to defend his seat, but I like his chances.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:06 PM

13. To those who think Manchin is better than the alternative,

I'll bet, like me, you thought we would never be able to elect a black man and a Jewish man, both Democratic, to the Senate in Georgia, also.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:09 PM

16. +1,

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:29 PM

18. Except we just had a Senate election in 2020 in WV and an unapologetic progressive Democrat ran.

Spoiler alert: she lost by more than 43 points.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:34 PM

20. It's always hard to take out an incumbent

in a primary.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:40 PM

24. It was a general election.

Capito took a walk in the park and won by a mile.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:36 PM

21. Amen & Agree ....

Manchin is a first class ASSHOLE.

Look at Georgia: BLUE and as you said a Jewish & African-American senators who helped Dems win the Senate. But then again, I have several friends from WV, and they tell me that that state is so far in the stone age due to opioid usage and the fact that people are so demoralized that voting isn't on their radar. That's friends from there telling me this. I haven't a clue.

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:38 PM

22. Hmmm... If only we had someone in our camp

that was a proven expert in turning out the vote. Someone with the initials S.A.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:30 PM

33. There isn't voter suppression

Its people choosing not to vote. WV doesn't have photo ID laws, lines are short and there are lots of polling locations. Early voting runs for a couple weeks beforehand and this year there was easy absentee voting, and thats likely to stay.

Republicans don't try to suppress voting here because they arent worried about those votes going against them.

Abrams doesn't have a magic wand. She had a plan to address specific problems im a state she was very familiar with. WV doesn't have those same circumstances.

Increase turnout and you'll increase republican votes. Really, this is like suggesting Republicans are going to win Hawaii.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:42 PM

25. GA and WV are not the same

I could have told you a year ago we had opportunities in GA, based on demographics and trends over cycles. WV is moving in the exact opposite direction in every way.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #25)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:00 PM

26. I'll admit I don't know much about WV or Georgia, for that matter.

But it seems people keep saying there's no way a Democrat can get elected there, yet one did.

I doubt Joe Manchin is the only Democrat on the planet who can get elected there. We should at least be grooming a younger version of him. He won't live forever.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:14 PM

31. The younger versions

Of him are all seeing an easier path on the republican side.

WV is very white and very old. There are no real urban areas. The biggest cities are ~50k people. Younger people who get educated usually move away.

Jim Justice won as a Democrat, but then immediately becamse a republican.

He and Manchin could win because their names are well known. They transcended party. Nobody else has that, so those races just default to whoever has the R.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:07 PM

14. You think his daughter learned to be greedy ...

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:16 PM

32. It's not like

we don't have "other things" to be thinking about, but read (or scan) through the article from almost 5 years ago and see if you can find some "commonalities" - who's 'complaining' - who's 'defending' - and the topic at hand.

Yeah, Joe's got a TON of 'stuff' to do - and we NEED to be there for him and make sure it happens!

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:14 PM

17. at least it's for something good

the ones I hate are the ones that are for the benefit of some wealthy donor.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:30 PM

19. Has he been taking lessons from Susan Collins?

"Concerned?"

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 07:42 PM

35. Manchin clearly mischaracterized STIMULUS as some sort of handout for the poors

...and he's eager to get to 'infrastructure' because he's one of the first states to have their hand out at highway and construction appropriation time.

And think about that. All of the federal facilities Byrd based in WVa. didn't make his constituents any less poor. Neither will the Covid relief money he's anticipating steering to corporations and developers in his state.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 09:46 PM

36. My earlier point


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It's about the voters. The constituents. Their reps will do what is necessary to get elected or reelected.

And if voters are making bad choices, they may need help in the form of info. Also, get out the recalcitrant progressives.

Ref. Stacy Abrams.

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