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tulipsandroses

(5,094 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:33 AM Jan 2021

Being black, I am confused about what rights these insurrectionists claimed they were fighting for

Watching CNN profiling some of these insurrectionists. Ex cops, Ex military, business owners, ex local politicians

One guy - who claims to have made millions in ECommerce, after storming the capitol, posted that 2 people were dead and they needed all patriots to come and fight for their rights or it would be taken away.

Uhm, I am truly confused. A bunch of privileged white men declaring they have to fight for their rights? All the while with the audacity of not only storming the Capitol, recording it and posting it to social media. No fear about what could happen to them. Hey its not like they had fear of being choked to death, or shot. Even after their failed coup, many are released on home release. imagine that. Black and Brown folks are still getting jammed up for minor shit. Kaleif Browder was in jail for 3 years for allegedly stealing a backpack. So much for right to speedy trial. These folks are getting to go home to their moms.

Yeah, I'm so confused. Exactly what rights are being taken away from them again? Has anyone asked them? I'd sure love to hear their answers.


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Being black, I am confused about what rights these insurrectionists claimed they were fighting for (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jan 2021 OP
They were "fighting for their rights" the way a petulant child acts out after being denied ice cream sandensea Jan 2021 #1
The right to treat black people and other minorities as less JI7 Jan 2021 #2
Pretty much! ShazzieB Jan 2021 #4
they have always regretted the abolition of slavery DBoon Jan 2021 #31
Well said. TreasonousBastard Jan 2021 #3
the right to feel superior to others Skittles Jan 2021 #5
That is the ONLY thing they wish to conserve it seems SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #30
For Sure.. LovingA2andMI Jan 2021 #6
They are fighting because they hate democrats LeftInTX Jan 2021 #7
Great post! hamsterjill Jan 2021 #19
They're entitled racist shitheads MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #8
ENTITLED...in all caps LeftInTX Jan 2021 #9
Look, they cray. PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #10
Just more verbiage that they hear and it sounds good to them, but they can't be bothered to Karadeniz Jan 2021 #11
The right to rule the world, enslave, kill, and destroy at will.. ananda Jan 2021 #12
The right to keep their knees on black and brown necks. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #13
THIS malaise Jan 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #16
I think... Mike Nelson Jan 2021 #15
Also want to know where the parts of the country are they claim they've lost. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #17
Too much testosterone LeftInTX Jan 2021 #28
Well. One reason is Wawannabe Jan 2021 #18
They've been told to be angry and resentful for 40 years or more. yardwork Jan 2021 #23
Being white doesn't help Maeve Jan 2021 #20
The right to not have to listen to any language other than English spoken without an accent... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #21
Well, the culturally-appropriating shaman lost access to organic food - but then they relented. yardwork Jan 2021 #22
Great post. brer cat Jan 2021 #24
None. Corgigal Jan 2021 #25
Guess they're fighting for the right to have their own math and sinkingfeeling Jan 2021 #26
Generally, it's their "right" to treat you like shit with no consequence... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #27
The quintessential example of White Privilege and Self Absorbed Entitlement msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #29
I hear you, and I'm hoping our Dems use the trial as an opportunity to find out who the anti-BLM JudyM Jan 2021 #32

sandensea

(21,530 posts)
1. They were "fighting for their rights" the way a petulant child acts out after being denied ice cream
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:41 AM
Jan 2021

Or an ill-bred teenager, after being denied some ultra-violent video game - while his homework gathers dust.

Except the consequences here are, of course, far more serious.

DBoon

(22,288 posts)
31. they have always regretted the abolition of slavery
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

and wish they had the "freedom" to own slaves

Skittles

(152,967 posts)
5. the right to feel superior to others
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 03:01 AM
Jan 2021

that's at the heart of being a "conservative" and that's what they mean when they say they want to take back OUR country

RACIST ASSHOLES

LeftInTX

(24,560 posts)
7. They are fighting because they hate democrats
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 03:44 AM
Jan 2021

And it's privilege because they feel entitled to do it.

These people are "entitled". They are "My way or highway and screw everyone in my path". It's pure selfishness.
They claim the "Capitol belongs to them", so they have the right to destroy it. They are all about, "me, me, me".

They also feel entitled with testosterone.
Don't try too hard to figure them out. They aren't good people. They're evil people. This really isn't a question of "their rights". It's about their "lawlessness".

Yes the PTB allows this. These people fought cops and there was a cop shortage. They bullied the cops and got away with. Our society has turned a blind eyes to white nationalists. There have been warning signs for years.

They are not losing rights...They are sickos who want to dominate every man, woman and child in America. If they can't, they attack.

They're like a bad movie!

PurgedVoter

(2,192 posts)
10. Look, they cray.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:38 AM
Jan 2021

Hate brought them to the game, but being cray cray is what keeps them there. Listen to Fox for five minutes and you are either a masochist, taking a hit for the team or cray cray. I say cray, cause crazy just doesn't fit anymore. Crazy is almost normal now. These folk are crunk on evil dreams. Listen to them. The ones that can manage to sound rational have a sort of switch in their brain. They can swing into cray faster than Breitbart can spin lies.

Karadeniz

(22,283 posts)
11. Just more verbiage that they hear and it sounds good to them, but they can't be bothered to
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:44 AM
Jan 2021

Think about.

Have you noticed, during all the Covid-related interviews with medical experts, how many of them are Oriental or Middle Eastern? They've taken advantage of every opportunity available and made successes of themselves and they make positive contributions. When you see the rioters, most of them look like people who haven't had a dream they were willing to work for. I'm not putting down our solid middle class workers, but chances are the militiamen feel more comfortable blaming others or the system for an emptiness inside them. They whine with guns. They want respect and recognition, but they won't work for them.

Response to malaise (Reply #14)

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
15. I think...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:58 AM
Jan 2021

... their "Right" to carry a gun is something they might answer. Or, their right to have a hundred guns - military style. They need them to defend themselves against a "Democrat Gov'ment." They don't read the US Constitution when it says "A WELL-REGULATED militia." They don't believe in regulations. They believe Kamala is going to start collecting their guns. They said Obama would do that... but they seem to have forgotten... he never did send someone to their house and collect their guns.

... also, they want the "Right" not to marry someone of the same gender. Why they need this to be a law is not logical, I know... but they are not logical. Gay marriage bothers them. Abortion and women having more "Rights" than a man is also bothersome. They find these "Rights" in the Bible. My New Testament doesn't include all this stuff about Gays and Abortion, but I guess it's an early edition. Their religious "Rights" are very important and they believe America should follow their faith.

... and, yes, as noted in posts above, they feel White people - European, Caucasian - should be running everything. They don't want to extinguish others - they just want them to go "home" (Africa, Mexico...).

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
17. Also want to know where the parts of the country are they claim they've lost.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:58 AM
Jan 2021

They claim to want "their country" back but never define what was there before that's been taken away or when it was taken.

Confederate statues? Bars and restaurants that have closed? The right to dump hazardous chemicals in the creek?


What have I missed?....... .......

Wawannabe

(5,580 posts)
18. Well. One reason is
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:18 AM
Jan 2021

These assholes were told by the sitting RESIDENT and (I think) some sitting lawmakers to come to the Capitol and take the house back. The insurrectionists truly thought they had a right.

Not that it is true, but they were/are just stupid and emboldened enough to try.

Thankfully they were too stupid and it backfired. Thankfully djt is even more stupid and he failed at his coup.

White men, in general have whined since political correctness became a thing, then whined even more about laws to help minorities (including their women) gain a foothold in various places in society. But, when a black man was voted President, these same whites were outraged and diminished too...so now they have been foaming at the mouth for about a decade trying to make themselves viable again. Welp, tRump was their “wet dream come true”. Their “Right White”.

I think Joe Biden’s team will make sure their rights are mirandized and they will see jail time. There will be those that plea down their charges but hopefully for a damn good reason...such as turning in evidence a lawmaker was involved. I also think Joe is gonna make some big gains in civil right for blacks and immigrants.

And Kamala Harris is gonna be the next President of the United States!

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
21. The right to not have to listen to any language other than English spoken without an accent...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:25 AM
Jan 2021

The right to be able to define who is undesirable and to keep them out of their neighborhoods. The right to tell other people what they can do inside their bedrooms, the right to not be supervised by a woman, you know, basis rights

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
22. Well, the culturally-appropriating shaman lost access to organic food - but then they relented.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:26 AM
Jan 2021

Poor kid. When his mom pointed out that he needed his organic food the jail relented.

sinkingfeeling

(51,279 posts)
26. Guess they're fighting for the right to have their own math and
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:46 AM
Jan 2021

reality. In their math, 74 million is greater than 81 million.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
27. Generally, it's their "right" to treat you like shit with no consequence...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:46 AM
Jan 2021


As a white man approaching 70, I'm still working to suppress racial tendencies I learned growing up.

msfiddlestix

(7,265 posts)
29. The quintessential example of White Privilege and Self Absorbed Entitlement
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jan 2021

From Supreme Court Justice Alito's ridiculous OpEd a few months ago whining about mandated face masks wearing insisting that it was the biggest threat to our LIBERTY. The world he lives in, that having to wear a face mask in public for the sake of our public health is threatening his freedoms. This from a Supreme Court Justice, no less.

To MTG stalking David Hogg and harrassing him with regard to his anti-gun activism. Whining that he was threatening her "right to bear arms" Harrassing him. Stalking him.

It's about White Privilege and Self Absorbed Entitlement, and IGNORANCE. imo.

JudyM

(29,122 posts)
32. I hear you, and I'm hoping our Dems use the trial as an opportunity to find out who the anti-BLM
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 11:55 PM
Jan 2021

troops were, and who ordered them to DC. Then hammer home the stark difference between what was done to protect DC then and why it was so different this last time.

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