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cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:36 PM Jan 2021

Taking Their Guns

I once asked my husband's wacky cousin, who never met a conspiracy theory she didn't want to marry, what the point of "false flag" operations were. Who benefited from pretending that children murdered at school weren't really dead, and why would anyone go to the trouble of pretending some liberal group was behind the non-massacre? She told me that it was to stir up public opinion against gun ownership, to grease the wheels of gun regulation down the slope of taking guns away altogether.

I said it didn't seem to be working, especially after Sandy Hook. Who could imagine a more horrible shooting crime? If that didn't make people want to ban guns altogether and lead to the repeal of the Second Amendment, what would?

Storming the Capitol would, I guess. Watching some of the whack-job videos of broken-hearted idiots, I heard "false flag" invoked more than once. Here we go again.

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sanatanadharma

(3,687 posts)
2. "False flag" claims mask the self-knowledge of being wrong
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jan 2021

Supporting the right to unfettered gun worship in the face of morally unacceptable deaths requires denying the dead.

Some 'batching crazy' people have nagging doubts about their own ephemeral ethics. It is easier to accept conspiracy theories than to engage in serious self-reflection.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
3. It appears that
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:57 PM
Jan 2021

most of the "false flag" and other whacko conspiracy theories begin on right-wing hate radio - think Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and others of their ilk. Oh, and don't forget Faux News as they "report" right-wing conspiracies over and over endlessly.

Liberal In Texas

(13,528 posts)
4. To Alex Jones everytime there is RW violence it's a "false flag."
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jan 2021

He's been doing this since he revved up his 9/11 conspiracy theories.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
5. Infowars host Alex Jones admits Sandy Hook killings were real, blames 'psychosis' for his conspiracy
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 08:10 PM
Jan 2021

From the March 2019 article:

- Snip -

Among other claims, Jones has suggested that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile ring out of a Washington D.C., pizza restaurant and has argued that a yogurt company, in hiring refugees, has brought "migrant rapists" and tuberculosis to areas near the factories.

In 2015, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump appeared on the InfoWars show to praise Jones, saying, "Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down."

In December, former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone, who has hosted a show on InfoWars, settled a $100 million lawsuit accusing him of publishing lies on the program.

The Wall Street Journal has reported exiled Chinese businessman Guo Wengui sued Stone in March, saying Stone accused him of being a ‘‘turncoat criminal’’ who violated U.S. election law. Stone now says his conduct was ‘‘irresponsible.’’

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/30/infowars-host-alex-jones-blames-psychosis-sandy-hook-claims/3318972002/


It seems like he associates with others who have a similar "psychosis."
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