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MTG "I was allowed to believe things that weren't true"

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MTG "I was allowed to believe things that weren't true" (Original post)	underpants	Feb 2021	OP
"Why didn't society take care of me?"	Grokenstein	Feb 2021	#1
So NOW she wants socialism?	TexasTowelie	Feb 2021	#2
Well, somebody has to take care of her!	Grokenstein	Feb 2021	#5
Pretty convenient argument, just blame society for her lies and lack of contemptible thinking skills	PirateRo	Feb 2021	#21
Wolf in sheep's clothing	poli-junkie	Feb 2021	#3
Or is it a sheep	volstork	Feb 2021	#13
That's kinda deep! It's true, too.	pnwest	Feb 2021	#16
She really is just a grifter -- like Trump.	poli-junkie	Feb 2021	#36
A shit in Turd's clothing	lagomorph777	Feb 2021	#44
Oh dear.	MontanaMama	Feb 2021	#4
it's the internet's fault. it's google's fault.	IcyPeas	Feb 2021	#6
"allowed to believe"??? "allowed" Please. You chose to believe. You wanted to believe.	Solly Mack	Feb 2021	#7
Yes, who "allowed" her? Another Republican taking personal responsibility.	Marie Marie	Feb 2021	#14
Yes. It's how they take responsibility. It's the fault of everyone else.	Solly Mack	Feb 2021	#15
"I do not believe that it's fake," Greene says of 9/11" Nor did anyone say you did...	Ohio Joe	Feb 2021	#8
Oh, go blow. n/t	Guilded Lilly	Feb 2021	#9
That sounds like she's still under the thumb of her parents.	KY_EnviroGuy	Feb 2021	#10
Gosh, now I feel bad.	Midnight Writer	Feb 2021	#11
You could sell this woman on a DNC cookbook titled "1,001 Ways to Cook Toddlers."	Vinca	Feb 2021	#12
The Republican Party allowed her to believe the lies. Just like every time a GOP poll was asked	TeamPooka	Feb 2021	#17
We need to start to just ignore this ignorant woman.	redstatebluegirl	Feb 2021	#18
She is fundraising off it.	tblue37	Feb 2021	#24
So much material for Lincoln Project to groove on	FakeNoose	Feb 2021	#19
And to think that I have thought such unprintable things about her.....	Chainfire	Feb 2021	#20
Patton Oswalt's take	Nevilledog	Feb 2021	#22
"Allowed?" It's like she is separated from thoughts that control her, and from reality	bucolic_frolic	Feb 2021	#23
Well i think it was the third element that drew her in instead of raising flags	underpants	Feb 2021	#25
OT: I heard a rumor that Putin the Poisoner poisoned you.	Hermit-The-Prog	Feb 2021	#27
I have strong support and snapped back	underpants	Feb 2021	#31
Logic and critical thinking.	Caliman73	Feb 2021	#29
Then who led you to believe those things, Marjorie?	Initech	Feb 2021	#26
Well....	underpants	Feb 2021	#33
I think many of us are assuming responsibility	Oldem	Feb 2021	#28
"Allowed to believe"? ARE YOU A FUCKING TODDLER??	bullwinkle428	Feb 2021	#30
This reminds me of "for those who are offended" apologies	underpants	Feb 2021	#32
But we're supposed to feel comfortable with her owning firearms. nt	coti	Feb 2021	#47
Yes, this is America... you're allowed to believe shit.	Goodheart	Feb 2021	#34
"Why didn't anyone realize I was talking like a kook?"	struggle4progress	Feb 2021	#35
+1, No one likes her enough to tell her she's stupid	uponit7771	Feb 2021	#37
Blame the Cartoons, now, sheesh!	Baked Potato	Feb 2021	#38
Every interview on msnbc and cnn with GOP should mock with this statement	lostnfound	Feb 2021	#39
She was saying she has the RIGHT to believe things that aren't true.	maxsolomon	Feb 2021	#43
Ah, I see. The right to be allowed to be stupid and deluded.	lostnfound	Feb 2021	#45
Well, that's my take.	maxsolomon	Feb 2021	#48
She takes no personal responsibility for anything.	Happy Hoosier	Feb 2021	#40
She's not saying someone permitted her to believe lies, or that she was led astray.	maxsolomon	Feb 2021	#41
she's a victim...just like her mentor djt	spanone	Feb 2021	#42
Typical Republican. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.	GoCubsGo	Feb 2021	#46
This is petty, but have y'all noticed her inability to pronounce certain words correctly?	ecstatic	Feb 2021	#49

Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:51 PM

Grokenstein (5,151 posts)

1. "Why didn't society take care of me?"

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Response to Grokenstein (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:52 PM

TexasTowelie (94,706 posts)

2. So NOW she wants socialism?

Last edited Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:46 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:56 PM

Grokenstein (5,151 posts)

5. Well, somebody has to take care of her!

She obviously can't handle that herself. (cf. Ayn Rand)

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:45 PM

PirateRo (933 posts)

21. Pretty convenient argument, just blame society for her lies and lack of contemptible thinking skills

It’s never her fault.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:54 PM

poli-junkie (853 posts)

3. Wolf in sheep's clothing

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Response to poli-junkie (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:22 PM

volstork (5,174 posts)

13. Or is it a sheep

in wolf's clothing?

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Response to volstork (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:29 PM

pnwest (3,128 posts)

16. That's kinda deep! It's true, too.

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Response to volstork (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:46 PM

poli-junkie (853 posts)

36. She really is just a grifter -- like Trump.

They're two peas in a pod.

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Response to volstork (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:25 PM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

44. A shit in Turd's clothing

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:55 PM

MontanaMama (20,000 posts)

4. Oh dear.

The party of personal responsibility...FAIL.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:57 PM

IcyPeas (17,907 posts)

6. it's the internet's fault. it's google's fault.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:00 PM

Solly Mack (87,315 posts)

7. "allowed to believe"??? "allowed" Please. You chose to believe. You wanted to believe.

You didn't bother trying to find out otherwise.

Seriously? She's going to get away with that bullshit?

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:24 PM

Marie Marie (9,999 posts)

14. Yes, who "allowed" her? Another Republican taking personal responsibility.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:27 PM

Solly Mack (87,315 posts)

15. Yes. It's how they take responsibility. It's the fault of everyone else.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:02 PM

Ohio Joe (19,790 posts)

8. "I do not believe that it's fake," Greene says of 9/11" Nor did anyone say you did...

I love how she ignores what she did say and we all know she is still a truther nutjob.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:02 PM

Guilded Lilly (5,538 posts)

9. Oh, go blow. n/t

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:02 PM

KY_EnviroGuy (13,897 posts)

10. That sounds like she's still under the thumb of her parents.

Mom and dad allowed her to believe bad stuff......

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:15 PM

Midnight Writer (16,718 posts)

11. Gosh, now I feel bad.

Like when my wife started smoking meth, and ran off with the biker gang that was dealing to her. She told me it was my fault.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:19 PM

Vinca (48,603 posts)

12. You could sell this woman on a DNC cookbook titled "1,001 Ways to Cook Toddlers."

If she's this dumb and gullible she should find another occupation. Toilet cleaner at Mar-a-Grifto perhaps?

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:31 PM

TeamPooka (21,039 posts)

17. The Republican Party allowed her to believe the lies. Just like every time a GOP poll was asked

about Obama's citizenship and told how many didn't believe he was a citizen and replied "Who am I to tell them what to believe?"
They did this time and again on this issue and many others.
About Hillary, Benghazi and so many more.
They enabled the bullshit and now they can all drown in it, hopefully.
They made it, they own it, let it kill them off.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:32 PM

redstatebluegirl (11,976 posts)

18. We need to start to just ignore this ignorant woman.

She is like Trump, she LOVES the attention, even negative attention when she can play the victim. She learned well at the feet of 45. They need to make her irrelevant.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:52 PM

tblue37 (54,555 posts)

24. She is fundraising off it.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:33 PM

FakeNoose (25,095 posts)

19. So much material for Lincoln Project to groove on

Looking forward to their next effort.

After this I'm hoping somebody throws water on MTG and melts her.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:38 PM

Chainfire (10,120 posts)

20. And to think that I have thought such unprintable things about her.....

Am I one of the ones who "allowed her to believe" things that were untrue? I feel so ashamed......

Now, she has seen the light....Hallelujah! Praise Trump!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:49 PM

Nevilledog (40,793 posts)

22. Patton Oswalt's take

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Tweet text:
Patton Oswalt
@pattonoswalt
"I'm just a girl, standing in front of a Congress, of which only a *few* members I want murdered, asking to serve as a representative."

southpaw
@nycsouthpaw
Replying to @nycsouthpaw
Greene’s “I was allowed to believe things that weren’t true” quote comes at approx 1:08 here
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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:49 PM

bucolic_frolic (33,321 posts)

23. "Allowed?" It's like she is separated from thoughts that control her, and from reality

Lunatic RWNJ

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:53 PM

underpants (170,847 posts)

25. Well i think it was the third element that drew her in instead of raising flags

Now I don’t want to dismiss sicko pdeophiles but when that’s coupled with Satanists and cannibals you know something just clicks in my brain that maybe I mean just maybe that it’s COMPLETE F’ING BULLSHIT.....

... but that’s just me

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Response to underpants (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:00 PM

Hermit-The-Prog (21,680 posts)

27. OT: I heard a rumor that Putin the Poisoner poisoned you.

Or maybe it was your uppercase clone. My space laser deflector has holes in it so I'm confused more easily here lately.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:36 PM

underpants (170,847 posts)

31. I have strong support and snapped back

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Response to underpants (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:09 PM

Caliman73 (10,167 posts)

29. Logic and critical thinking.

We know that pedophilia exists. We know that human trafficking exists. We were made aware that there are powerful people like Jeffery Epstein that were implicated in the procurement of young, likely underage girls for sexual acts. We can know ALL of that is true and STILL have complete incredulity that there is a global cabal of pedophiles lead by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party. There is simply NO evidence to support those allegations.

No one who accepts the Q-anon conspiracies as true has the mental capacity to serve in Congress.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:58 PM

Initech (93,038 posts)

26. Then who led you to believe those things, Marjorie?

I mean those death threats and racist memes you liked and moderated on Facebook didn't write themselves.

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Response to Initech (Reply #26)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:39 PM

underpants (170,847 posts)

33. Well....

There was the internet and the google. As you know, those things just DO THINGS.

So clearly she had no control over the situation

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:07 PM

Oldem (833 posts)

28. I think many of us are assuming responsibility

out of kindness and a deep sympathy for Greene's having been misled. Actually, it was space aliens that fooled her.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:10 PM

bullwinkle428 (20,402 posts)

30. "Allowed to believe"? ARE YOU A FUCKING TODDLER??

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #30)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:37 PM

underpants (170,847 posts)

32. This reminds me of "for those who are offended" apologies

Not exactly the same but the same amount of deflection

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 02:59 PM

coti (4,612 posts)

47. But we're supposed to feel comfortable with her owning firearms. nt

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:43 PM

Goodheart (4,291 posts)

34. Yes, this is America... you're allowed to believe shit.

We have no thought police. Whatever you believe is on YOU.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:45 PM

struggle4progress (114,536 posts)

35. "Why didn't anyone realize I was talking like a kook?"

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:54 PM

uponit7771 (87,037 posts)

37. +1, No one likes her enough to tell her she's stupid

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 08:10 PM

Baked Potato (6,647 posts)

38. Blame the Cartoons, now, sheesh!

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:04 PM

lostnfound (15,220 posts)

39. Every interview on msnbc and cnn with GOP should mock with this statement

“I was allowed to believe...”

Does a person who says they were “allowed to believe” nonsense have the necessary judgment to be in congress?

Is she suggesting there should the thought police, who could stop her from believing something?

That statement in its absurd glory, over and over.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:14 PM

maxsolomon (28,327 posts)

43. She was saying she has the RIGHT to believe things that aren't true.

It was oddly phrased because she was referencing things she said in the past that she now knows (or believes) were untrue.

She could have said "I have the right to believe things that aren't true and discuss them with others."

Which she does. You have the right to believe bullshit; it is not a crime.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #43)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 02:51 PM

lostnfound (15,220 posts)

45. Ah, I see. The right to be allowed to be stupid and deluded.

And brags about it.
The GOP has devolved so much as to be unrecognizable.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:29 PM

maxsolomon (28,327 posts)

48. Well, that's my take.

Flat earthers believe lies, the difference is that they don't foment insurrection over it.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:05 PM

Happy Hoosier (4,300 posts)

40. She takes no personal responsibility for anything.

It's all stuff that happens to her, as if she had no agency.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

maxsolomon (28,327 posts)

41. She's not saying someone permitted her to believe lies, or that she was led astray.

She's saying it's her RIGHT to believe lies; she's referencing her past acts before she was elected.

In fact, she IS allowed to believe lies AND discuss them with others. Pretty much everyone does to some degree.

That's what organized religion essentially is, isn't it? Lies the faithful believe and discuss with others?

Well, except for the one you believe in. That one is literally 100% true and anyone who says otherwise is oppressing you.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 01:12 PM

spanone (131,494 posts)

42. she's a victim...just like her mentor djt

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 02:55 PM

GoCubsGo (29,480 posts)

46. Typical Republican. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.

They take no responsibility for their own actions ever.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:40 PM

ecstatic (30,170 posts)

49. This is petty, but have y'all noticed her inability to pronounce certain words correctly?

Like cabal, for example. I guess someone else is writing her speeches or something.

And in earlier footage from 2017 or 2018, she couldn't even pronounce "anon" correctly. She called it Q-aynen.

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General Discussion (Forum)

MTG "I was allowed to believe things that weren't true"

1. "Why didn't society take care of me?"

2. So NOW she wants socialism?

5. Well, *somebody* has to take care of her!

21. Pretty convenient argument, just blame society for her lies and lack of contemptible thinking skills

3. Wolf in sheep's clothing

13. Or is it a sheep

16. That's kinda deep! It's true, too.

36. She really is just a grifter -- like Trump.

44. A shit in Turd's clothing

4. Oh dear.

6. it's the internet's fault. it's google's fault.

7. "allowed to believe"??? "allowed" Please. You chose to believe. You wanted to believe.

14. Yes, who "allowed" her? Another Republican taking personal responsibility.

15. Yes. It's how they take responsibility. It's the fault of everyone else.

8. "I do not believe that it's fake," Greene says of 9/11" Nor did anyone say you did...

9. Oh, go blow. n/t

10. That sounds like she's still under the thumb of her parents.

11. Gosh, now I feel bad.

12. You could sell this woman on a DNC cookbook titled "1,001 Ways to Cook Toddlers."

17. The Republican Party allowed her to believe the lies. Just like every time a GOP poll was asked

18. We need to start to just ignore this ignorant woman.

24. She is fundraising off it.

19. So much material for Lincoln Project to groove on

20. And to think that I have thought such unprintable things about her.....

22. Patton Oswalt's take

23. "Allowed?" It's like she is separated from thoughts that control her, and from reality

25. Well i think it was the third element that drew her in instead of raising flags

27. OT: I heard a rumor that Putin the Poisoner poisoned you.

31. I have strong support and snapped back

29. Logic and critical thinking.

26. Then who led you to believe those things, Marjorie?

33. Well....

28. I think many of us are assuming responsibility

30. "Allowed to believe"? ARE YOU A FUCKING TODDLER??

32. This reminds me of "for those who are offended" apologies

47. But we're supposed to feel comfortable with her owning firearms. nt

34. Yes, this is America... you're allowed to believe shit.

35. "Why didn't anyone realize I was talking like a kook?"

37. +1, No one likes her enough to tell her she's stupid

38. Blame the Cartoons, now, sheesh!

39. Every interview on msnbc and cnn with GOP should mock with this statement

43. She was saying she has the RIGHT to believe things that aren't true.

45. Ah, I see. The right to be allowed to be stupid and deluded.

48. Well, that's my take.

40. She takes no personal responsibility for anything.

41. She's not saying someone permitted her to believe lies, or that she was led astray.

42. she's a victim...just like her mentor djt

46. Typical Republican. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.

49. This is petty, but have y'all noticed her inability to pronounce certain words correctly?

5. Well, somebody has to take care of her!