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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums⭐️****TRUMP INSURRECTION thread Day 3****🇺🇸
PBS
https://www.pbs.org/articles/2021/02/how-to-watch-pbs-newshour-coverage-of-the-second-trump-impeachment/
CSPAN
https://www.c-span.org/impeachment/
nolabear
(41,915 posts)Thanks for keeping on it!
underpants
(182,279 posts)nolabear
(41,915 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)Mersky
(4,969 posts)Will be in here in a few...
mia
(8,356 posts)He also produced and directed the assault upon the United States government.
Lars39
(26,093 posts)House Managers Deliver Final Opening Arguments is chyron
gianforte's Montana GOVERNOR now.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)-45 did as soon as he got into office. Everyone needs to know this. Montana is quickly becoming Alabama.
crickets
(25,896 posts)of trump inciting violence over the years from those attending his rallies. Mute button's going to get another workout today.
eta - Raskin showing how trump's rhetoric whipped up the situation in MI, leading to 'militias' in the MI state house. One screams 'Heil Hitler' and the crowd eventually screams 'Lock her up!' Raskin calls it a dress rehearsal for what eventually happened at the US Capitol, noting trump praises the rioters and berates Whitmer. This happened twice.
eta 2 - Oct 08: 13 men charged in plot to kidnap MI Gov. Gretchen Whitner. They planned to kill her.
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Mersky
(4,969 posts)One of tRumps very fine people.
Lars39
(26,093 posts)bdamomma
(63,658 posts)the same thing for Hillary.
Mike Flynn routed on the mob back then too.
nolabear
(41,915 posts)crickets
(25,896 posts)It shows how responsible trump was in manipulating people to act on his wishes. It makes it obvious that the crowd screaming, "Hang Mike Pence" was deadly serious. It shows how his tweeting about Pence during the riot was not a mistake and likely was intended to get a certain result.
Irish_Dem
(45,640 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)cilla4progress
(24,589 posts)Relieved to see house managers bringing up drumpf's 2015 incitements to violence at his rallies.
This has been PROGRAMMING of long duration.
He didn't NEED to tell the Jan. 6 rioters what his expectations were; he'd been grooming them since at least 2015.
In fact, I believe this is the strategy: plausible deniability. That is, some reptilian, sociopathic, narcissistic awareness of the danger TO HIMSELF in using incendiary words of physical violence immediately precipitory to the 1/6 attack. He didn't need to. Like Michael Cohen said .... his supporters and sycophants know what he means. Why? He'd been grooming them, programming them, for years ...
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Wish the managers would use the words grooming, programming. Maybe we will hear it.
underpants
(182,279 posts)All he needed to do was get his cult near the Capitol. At least one would make the first move and others would follow.
LymphocyteLover
(5,601 posts)That crowd scene with Trump talking about Whitmer is so incredibly nauseating
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)cilla4progress
(24,589 posts)also talks about context - that this predates 2021, or even drumpf's presidency.
Great minds think alike.
Link to tweet
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Lars39
(26,093 posts)refuses to condemn the attack...another full day to condemn attack
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)shameful
Mersky
(4,969 posts)That while he said in that video that the mob defiled the Capitol, tRump would go on to lie saying that he immediately called up the National Guard.
Mersky
(4,969 posts)By lying about calling up the NG, tRump capitalized on the confusion of what occurred at the time. Shame on him for disrespecting the troops he clings to for a tough image.
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Did not pay respect to fallen officer
Trump did not make mistake. He was deliberate
irisblue
(32,829 posts)good
crickets
(25,896 posts)irisblue
(32,829 posts)source-https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/02/10/sen-mike-lee-says-media/
source-https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-sen-mike-lee-says-ahead-of-impeachment-everyone-is-entitled-to-a-mulligan
mulligan definition-Definition of mulligan
: a free shot sometimes given a golfer in informal play when the previous shot was poorly played- Merriam- Webster.
Mike Lee pulled a putz objection yesterday hearing end.
Lieu, using Lees word let Lee know it won't work.
Lieu used Lees' word against him. it was an elegant verbal slap.
crickets
(25,896 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)That he won the election
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Every single one of them seems to recognize the reality of what occurred.
crickets
(25,896 posts)of people condemning the insurrection and directly calling out trump for having incited it. Includes former trump officials including Mattis, Bolton, Barr, and Mulvaney.
eta - 16 WH staff resigned after Jan 6.
malaise
(267,823 posts)that he promised to pay legal fees if they beat up people at rallies/
They'll be heading for prison with no help from their monster deity
Mersky
(4,969 posts)In a video clip of a series of hardline republicans acknowledging tRumps guilt in the attack
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Great strategy imo
BlueSpot
(851 posts)How to call witnesses without calling witnesses!
crickets
(25,896 posts)pointing out the strain placed on state budgets to cover costs for law enforcement.
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Was frequently referred to as examples of violence and extremism of tRumps supporters were being presented
Mersky
(4,969 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)just does not have the same impact.
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Rep. Dusty Johnson
Rep Jason Crow
Rep Pat Fallon
Rep Dan Kildee
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)crickets
(25,896 posts)not just Congressional reps and their staff. This is the one point in the proceedings where the lack of witnesses is a problem. They couldn't call everyone, still it would be much more powerful to hear a few of them tell their stories in person rather than hear Cicilline recount their words or stand listening to their disembodied voices. It won't make or break the case, but it's the one time the lack of witness testimony has stood out for me.
Lars39
(26,093 posts)I feel so sorry for them.
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Slide:
DC Guard Chief 'Deeply Troubled' After Nearly 200 Troops Test Positive for COVID-19
25 Jan 2021
Military.com | By Gina Harkins
Coronavirus cases have jumped nearly fivefold over the last 10 days among troops deployed from across the country to the nation's capital, military officials said on Monday.
Almost 200 National Guard members have tested positive for COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, said Maj. Gen. William Walker, commander of the District of Columbia National Guard.
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/25/dc-guard-chief-deeply-troubled-after-nearly-200-troops-test-positive-covid-19.html
Mersky
(4,969 posts)By
Tom Jackman
Jan. 27, 2021 at 6:47 p.m. CST
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The physical toll on officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack by a pro-Trump mob is becoming clearer, with reports by police officials and federal prosecutors indicating that about 140 officers were injured, the head of the Capitol Police officers union said.
I have officers who were not issued helmets prior to the attack who have sustained head injuries, Gus Papathanasiou, union chairman, said in a statement Wednesday. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake, to name some of the injuries.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-union-says-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-riot/2021/01/27/60743642-60e2-11eb-9430-e7c77b5b0297_story.html
crickets
(25,896 posts)The amount of verbal abuse Capitol police received before the real violence started is just nauseating.
Mersky
(4,969 posts)Two Black officers told BuzzFeed News that their chief and other upper management left them totally unprepared and were nowhere to be found on the day.
Emmanuel Felton
BuzzFeed News Reporter
Posted on January 9, 2021, at 4:32 p.m. ET
The first glimpse of the deadly tragedy that was about to unfold came at 9 a.m. on the morning of the insurrection for one Black veteran of the US Capitol Police. But it didnt come from his superiors instead the officer had to rely on a screenshot from Instagram sent to him by a friend.
I found out what they were planning when a friend of mine screenshot me an Instagram story from the Proud Boys saying, Were breaching the Capitol today, guys. I hope yall ready. The officer, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation from his superiors, told BuzzFeed News that it was just a sign of the chaos that was to come, which saw officers regularly finding themselves unprepared and then outmanned and overpowered by the mob.
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I sat down with one of my buddies, another Black guy, and tears just started streaming down my face, he said. I said, What the fuck, man? Is this America? What the fuck just happened? Im so sick and tired of this shit.
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/black-capitol-police-racism-mob
Lars39
(26,093 posts)underpants
(182,279 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)crickets
(25,896 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)He appealed to Senators who served in the military.
KentuckyWoman
(6,666 posts)Listening to Raskin lead America by the hand on why the First Amend defense is a red herring.
Even an idiot Maga can follow this if they step outside the crazy.