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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid we bring up Trump ordering National Guard to stand down Jan. 4?
Remember, Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller officially took authority to deploy in emergency from DC commander two days before Trump riot.
Source: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/02/02/could-be-smoking-gun-trumps-january-6-treason
Asking for a democracy.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Now the inexplicable delays in sending help is another matter. But Im sure that hasnt had time to be fully investigated.
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)FWIU, it took a phone call from Pence sheltering in place to get the National Guard in action.
The document is solid evidence for Trumps treason.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Still looking for 17 good people whose consciences will follow "good trouble."
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)From Jan. 7...
Pentagon placed limits on D.C. Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests due to narrow mission
By Paul Sonne, Peter Hermann and Missy Ryan
Washington Post, Jan. 7, 2021 at 9:43 p.m. EST
The Pentagon placed tight limits on the D.C. National Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests this week, trying to ensure the use of military force remained constrained, as the Guard carried out a narrow, unarmed mission requested by the citys mayor to help handle traffic ahead of planned protests.
In memos issued Monday and Tuesday in response to a request from the D.C. mayor, the Pentagon prohibited the Districts guardsmen from receiving ammunition or riot gear, interacting with protesters unless necessary for self-defense, sharing equipment with local law enforcement, or using Guard surveillance and air assets without the defense secretarys explicit sign-off, according to officials familiar with the orders. The limits were established because the Guard hadnt been asked to assist with crowd or riot control.
The D.C. Guard was also told it would be allowed to deploy a quick-reaction force only as a measure of last resort, the officials said.
Then the mission abruptly changed and the Pentagon is now facing criticism from governors and local officials who say it moved too slowly to send National Guard troops to respond, a charge that its leaders denied Thursday.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-protests-washington-guard-military/2021/01/07/c5299b56-510e-11eb-b2e8-3339e73d9da2_story.html
The evidence seems to get in the way of exonerating a political party run by a fascist gangster.
MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)Billy Barr wasn't around - he could have sent in all of the "Mystery Goons" with helicopters and tear gas and then BunkerBoy could have stood on the Capitol Steps holding up Mein Kompf with all of his flags waving.....
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)IMPOTUS: "I actually took one when I -- very recently, when I -- when I was -- the radical left were saying, is he all there? Is he all there? And I proved I was all there, because I got -- I aced it. I aced the test. I took it at Walter Reed Medical Center in front of doctors. And they were very surprised. They said, that's an unbelievable thing. Rarely does anybody do what you just did."
Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/politics/trump-hannity-coronavirus/index.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-state-tv-calls-trump-their-agent
All Billy ever really wanted was to head CIA.
Barr told a guidance counselor he wanted to head the CIA. From The New Yorker:
...When Barr was an undergraduate, at Columbia, his classmates marched against the war in Vietnam. Barr wanted instead to buttress American power. He had told a guidance counsellor that he hoped one day to lead the C.I.A., and, during breaks from school, he spent two summers as an intern there. In 1973, he finished a masters degree in Government and Chinese Studies and returned to the C.I.A. as an intelligence analyst. At the time, a Senate investigationknown as the Church Committeewas uncovering decades of abuses at the C.I.A., and laws were being passed to curtail them. Barr later recalled the effort as a kind of assault, delivering body blows to the agency....
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/01/20/william-barr-trumps-sword-and-shield?verso=true
2naSalit
(86,308 posts)But after some reflection, I was rather disappointed, I have come to think that there might be a grand jury assembled for this and there will soon be indictments coming forth.
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)...and help prevent future treasons, for this Spirit of Moving On for unity and so on is a Groundhogs Day rerun thats gotten stale.
I dont understand why Impeachment Management hasnt, but I would use all at my disposal to show all Trump did to overthrow government of the people and by the people.
BSdetect
(8,994 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC
By LOLITA C. BALDOR
January 8, 2021
WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump is distorting how he responded to the chaos at the Capitol this week, falsely stating that he acted immediately to bring in the National Guard.
How his statement compares with the facts:
TRUMP: I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. video released Thursday night.
THE FACTS: Thats not at all what happened. While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to the Wednesday rioting about the National Guard response, he was not part of the decision-making that day. Defense officials have said they didnt speak to Trump on Wednesday.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-national-guard-in-dc-c4c8f14643b6254e261aa0be0841e9e2
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I do understand; there may be some room for dispute about the memo, but I, too, wish it had been shown.
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)Maybe Gen. Flynn the Brother could shed light on things. He said he wasnt there before he said he was.
Army falsely denied Flynn brother was in meeting on riot response: report
BY ELLEN MITCHELL
The Hill, 01/21/21 12:07 PM EST
The Army falsely denied for days that the brother of former national security adviser Michael Flynn was listening in on a key phone call during the Pentagons response to the Jan. 6 insurrection on the U.S. Capitol, The Washington Post reported.
It was not untoward for Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn to be on the call, given his role as the Armys deputy chief of staff for operations, plans and training. The Armys initial denial of his participation, however, raises questions as to the transparency of the Pentagon in revealing the facts surrounding that day.
Charles Flynn told the Post that he was in the room for a portion of a phone call during which the Capitol Police and D.C. officials urged the Pentagon to send more National Guard troops to respond to the violence after a mob of Trump supporters descended on the Capitol Building.
The rioters overwhelmed police, broke into the structure and disrupted lawmakers meeting to certify President Biden's Electoral College win. Five people are dead as a result of the chaos, including a Capitol police officer.
Top Army officials, however, were reportedly concerned about the optics of sending the guard to the Capitol.
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/535226-army-falsely-denied-flynn-brother-was-in-meeting-on-riot-response-report
Optics means pre-meditation turns manslaughter into murder.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,570 posts)busses, permits, insurance, all the fees incurred for the "protest." Also, skipped communication between frump and the mob. Also missed any inside police communications or actions. Capital police reports, congressional tours allowing seditionists to prepare their attack. On and on.
This was done at a kindergarten level: Simply: Did he ask them to attack using only public knowledge.
The real, legal indictments will have the real inside evidence. This is just forcing the gqp to take sides.
Kid Berwyn
(14,789 posts)Here are a few eyewitnesses whose testimony would be of interest for Justice:
Lawmakers Not Told of Police Request for Backup
Excerpt...
Political Wire, January 16, 2021 at 10:38 am EST
By Taegan Goddard 44 Comments
New York Times: The Capitol Police asked the sergeants-at-arms to request that the National Guard be placed on standby. But the sergeants-at-arms, Michael C. Stenger of the Senate and Paul Irving of the House, rejected the request without raising the issue with either the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, or Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Source: https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/16/lawmakers-not-told-of-police-request-for-backup/
NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/us/politics/capitol-riot-national-guard-request.html