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Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:00 AM

This is how the Trump era ends...



It was always going to end in a car crash of fascist cray cray. How Senate republicans think that clinging to the fetid carcus of the bloviating wannabee totalitarian blowhard of dubious lineage and limited shelf life, is a long term strategy to retain power is beyond me. They let the far right in to sit at their table and now they are reduced to begging for crumbs from them by letting Trump off his treasonous hook. Do they not realise that those they answer too in their states are not terribly representative of the population as a whole? That the state party level machine got taken over by the baggers a decade ago and that batshit crazy has been brewing a potent mix of delusion and hatred for the last ten years, which is now at boiling point.

By pandering to this swamp of nationalist, white supremacy, insurrectionist base of awfulness they risk locking themselves out of power for the next decade.

Good.

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Reply This is how the Trump era ends... (Original post)
Soph0571 Feb 2021 OP
kentuck Feb 2021 #1
Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #8
gab13by13 Feb 2021 #2
Oldem Feb 2021 #10
Paladin Feb 2021 #12
Cosmo Blues Feb 2021 #3
Duppers Feb 2021 #7
Cosmo Blues Feb 2021 #16
tiredtoo Feb 2021 #4
RKP5637 Feb 2021 #5
Jon King Feb 2021 #6
Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #9
Solomon Feb 2021 #11
PatSeg Feb 2021 #15
birdographer Feb 2021 #13
lastlib Feb 2021 #14

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:06 AM

1. Started with a Small Lie and ended with a Big LIe.

Remember? The largest crowd to ever see an Inauguration. Period! ?

That was the first lie they told.

The election was rigged. It was a fraud. We won by the largest landslide in history.

That was the last lie they told.

Lies obviously have consequences.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:21 AM

8. It's always been Big Lies. And it started with Birtherism...nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:13 AM

2. I see nothing ending,

The fascists are still out there and they still control the Republican party.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:24 AM

10. Former Senator Claire McCaskill just made this point.

Repug victories don't depend on bright red districts and states. They depend on purple swing districts, and this spectacle will turn those people off for a long time. So the question is not just what fringe groups control the repugs; it's also what can the repug party control, going forward.

I think that, following this debacle, repugs will have to find a way to divorce themselves from radical elements and from dump. Otherwise, they'll circle the drain with dross like Don Jr., Hawley, Haley, or some other far-right winger and insurrectionist. To find their way back to a position centrist enough to appeal to swing voters, they have to find candidates who are free of all this stink.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:30 AM

12. Neither do I. Unfortunately.

I hope the next trump hate mob encounters well-armed law enforcement, and that those arms are forcefully used against the mob. Until trump's goons are properly terrified and subdued, we stand to lose our country.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:53 AM

3. There are murmurings

That the far right wing are going to try to wrest control from the extreme right-wing but they are only 30% the extreme seems to be 40% and the other 30 will go along with whatever

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Response to Cosmo Blues (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:19 AM

7. About right!

But aren't they're losing members?

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Response to Duppers (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:41 PM

16. Yes they are, I can't find hard numbers

But now Independents outnumber Republicans for the first time

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:55 AM

4. This ain't over yet

Suggest reading "The rise and fall of the third reich" The crazies who invaded the capitol are still out there. They are far from giving up. We all must continue in our efforts to expose them and keep them out of power!

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:03 AM

5. Sadly, I don't think the SH** is going away either. These wackos did not go away. Trump focused

them and he will rise, or they will find another. There are always a lot of Hitler types milling around.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:08 AM

6. We need to stop with the Germany comparisons...

The military didn't go along with Trump. Much of the ranks are minorities. Hitler had military background and was able to use that system to gain control of the military.

Totally different system here. The civilian lackeys Trump installed had zero chance of corrupting career military guys. Also German military was all white and of like mind, our military is very diverse and there is no way to get a military that is 40% minorities to do what they did in Germany.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:23 AM

9. The military didn't go along with Hitler at first, either...

they only came on board later, with the corporate types.

Our military will be harder to convert, though, so we have that going for us.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:24 AM

11. Those are reasons why it didn't work here - not reasons that comparisons shouldn't be made.


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Response to Solomon (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:04 AM

15. I agree

There are definitely comparisons to the rise of fascism in Europe and acknowledging that helps protect us from tyrants. Even Jon Meacham acknowledged the similarities and he is not inclined to be an alarmist.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:53 AM

13. It's baffling to me

how they think acquitting an obviously guilty scumbag is going to keep them in power? trump is a corrupt and soulless excuse for a human, and when he ran in an election, even previously red states turned blue to keep him out. Not that any republicans changed their minds about him, they voted for him, but those who saw the depravity got to the polls and made sure he would be out of our government. So what is their thinking that this won't happen to them? Do they think we will forget when they come up for re-election? They are worried about alienating and losing trump's base, but that base is a minority at the polls, as shown by the election. Maybe they should be FAR more worried about alienating anyone on the fence when it's election day. They are tipping everyone against them.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:54 AM

14. May I correct the characterization of the "blowhard of dubious lineage"?

I am absolutely certain that it is begat of Satan.

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