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Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:37 PM

Pence & McCarthy need to be called as witnesses. Unless this can be accomplished, no accountability

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:38 PM

1. I bet they would both lie under oat. Can't imagine the kind of threats pence is getting

on his family. he is a sack of shit nonetheless.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:51 PM

5. The series of events that threatened them both needs to be acknowledged in testimony and questioning

of the events, their interpretations, their phone calls with the Mob Boss, and their total failure in divulging the truth. They were targeted and they know it. Would they lie? Probably. But America deserves to hear from them or this will happen again. And the next time will be way worse. Secret Service could shed some light as well.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:42 PM

2. Not sure how that equates to accountability.

The 44 are still going to vote to acquit. Many of them have already said as much. Any acquittal is, by definition, a lack of accountability. Pence and McCarthy testifying doesn't suddenly transform that into accountability.

Commensurate accountability would be Trump being prosecuted and convicted by any of numerous jurisdictions.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:44 PM

3. I want to hear from Pence how he was tageted based on a tweet and damn near hung.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:56 PM

7. He's unlikely to testify that he was targeted by Trump.

He would testify that he knew the mob had targeted him and others, but he's not going to assert that Trump specifically sent them to kill him. He's also not going to testify that he was "damn near hung". He would more likely credit his security staff for evacuating him and taking him to shelter, etc.

If you're really expecting what you've asserted from his testimony, you would likely be disappointed. Even if he believes it to be true, he's highly unlikely to testify to anything beyond the basic facts. He's not about to say "Trump sent a mob to kill me and I was damn near hung" or equivalent.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 02:12 PM

8. But he was. It was another coded message from the Mob Boss that led to near assassination. Not

suggesting he would use my words, but convey the reality of the threat, and his family scrambling for their lives. Hell, interview some of the Secret Service and see how close he and his family may have been to death or dismemberment. That was a rabid lynch mob, and he was damn lucky, as 45 had no intention of stopping it. He enjoyed it and didn't speak to Pence for 5 days. 5 days, cause he was still outraged that Pence didn't do as he instructed.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:47 PM

4. Meadows too.

Anyone who knew Trump was acting callously and knowingly during the riot. The attitude after the incitement proves the incitement. If Trump had acted horrified and shocked, it would show he was at least pretending he didn't mean to incite. If there's no evidence he even tried to pretend he was horrified and shocked but was actually acting vindictive, satisfied, or even excited, that means he "got what he wanted."

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Response to gulliver (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 01:53 PM

6. "Gleeful" according to reports of people in the room. Those would be other worthy witness(es).

This was a coup. The world is as aghast as most of us.

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