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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 08:34 AM Feb 2021

Greetings from South Carolina.

I have returned from the swamps. 2020 was a lost year. I completely lost track of time. It was not relevant.
I also lost most of my family and friends to Trumpitis. They were well on their way and I had already broken off with many but then Q appeared and the rest set up camp on the edge of their flat earth. It was as if I was suddenly surrounded by Klingons or Deatheaters or Orcs(choose your saga.) They shape-shifted into strangers. I still love them but I love who they were and I have fond memories. That is all that is left.
AND contrary to popular belief, I did try to talk to them. I spent time at the beginning working with methods recommended by those who work with cults. Nothing worked. I have come to believe that any change will have to come from inside out. They are impervious to anything from the outside. Without an epiphany, they are gone. I realize that changes do come from the inside but it is impossible to even get them to hold an iota of a different idea. Normally, people will take in some different ideas and mull them over. Not now.
It is tiring being part of major historic events.
Take care!
Grits

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Greetings from South Carolina. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2021 OP
((Grits)) blm Feb 2021 #1
For this born and bred northern Yankee who spent 4 years in the south compliments USAF. GRITS..... usaf-vet Feb 2021 #20
Have you ever had fried grits? nt Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #33
Not to my knowledge. Let's just say there were late night ..early morning trips to the all night ... usaf-vet Feb 2021 #37
You need an clean, empty food can like green beans come in. Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #38
Huggggs. Good to see you. niyad Feb 2021 #2
People in cults usually wake up at some point. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2021 #3
I live among them, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #6
If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers. lastlib Feb 2021 #14
Oh I walked away a while back. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2021 #25
It usually takes a catastrophic event AwakeAtLast Feb 2021 #39
It's so good to see you posting again malaise Feb 2021 #4
Welcome back! Tanuki Feb 2021 #5
Isn't it amazing OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #7
They deny they have covid as they are being put on a ventilator????? judesedit Feb 2021 #19
Hmm, that book's foreword... Duppers Feb 2021 #40
It's called brainwashing. Or teaching to the test. Take your pick. judesedit Feb 2021 #41
In a world where an expanding population fights for finite resources, ..... jaxexpat Feb 2021 #36
good to hear from you again! rurallib Feb 2021 #8
Welcome back Maeve Feb 2021 #9
It's so hard arlyellowdog Feb 2021 #10
Ran as fast as I could from the bizzaro world some of my former friends lived in... N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2021 #11
Greetings from elsewhere in South Carolina! GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #12
Sounds like the Borg to me. AirmensMom Feb 2021 #13
Hey, Grits gademocrat7 Feb 2021 #15
Hey grits voteearlyvoteoften Feb 2021 #16
So sorry. QANON needs to be identified. Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #17
Missed ya'. Really glad you're back. flamin lib Feb 2021 #18
Welcome back. I missed you. yardwork Feb 2021 #21
Yep, my sister and her family in SC are lost too... Sancho Feb 2021 #22
good to see you Grits! barbtries Feb 2021 #23
2020 was a lost year SallyHemmings Feb 2021 #24
There is hope---your next door neighbor---GEORGIA Always Randy Feb 2021 #26
Hi, Grits. Dr. T Feb 2021 #27
They all stepped into deep deep doo randr Feb 2021 #28
Speaking of grits . . . AverageOldGuy Feb 2021 #29
Shrimp and grits with local St. Johns Island shrimp. twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #30
Welcome back. AmBlue Feb 2021 #31
Good to hear from you! Best of luck! Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #32
Good to see you again. And you're right about "the lost year". panader0 Feb 2021 #34
Wow. It's been forever since you last posted BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #35

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
20. For this born and bred northern Yankee who spent 4 years in the south compliments USAF. GRITS.....
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:34 AM
Feb 2021

....are still a daily staple for me. Besides some southern friends, GRITS are the best thing I got from those days.

Sorry for your loss of family and friends.

In my mind, there are two pandemics that erupted from the tRump years. MAGA and Covid. Covid has hopefully found a solution, vaccine! MAGA is a cancer with no viable treatment.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
37. Not to my knowledge. Let's just say there were late night ..early morning trips to the all night ...
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:16 AM
Feb 2021

..... cafes. I travel with some "good old southern boys" so no telling what they ordered for sobering up breakfasts.

But tell me how to make them and I will give it a twirl.

Thanks.

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
38. You need an clean, empty food can like green beans come in.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:21 AM
Feb 2021

When you make grits put the leftovers in the can a chill overnight in the frig. The next morning, take the bottom off the can and push out the grits, slicing into 1/2 inch patties. Fry till golden brown in butter. Some use bacon grease but I like butter best.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
6. I live among them,
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 08:54 AM
Feb 2021

I don't see them changing. I saw the best advice here I believe; it is impossible for there to be a debate between a rational person and an irrational person.

lastlib

(23,213 posts)
14. If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:12 AM
Feb 2021

For the sake of your own sanity, it is better to walk away from them. I also live among them, but can't flee, unfortunately. So I walk away.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
25. Oh I walked away a while back.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:45 AM
Feb 2021

Two of my cousins thought they would be cute. They began to send me Q shit.
I threatened them if they did not stop. It was a vague threat but they know I do not play. They stopped.

AwakeAtLast

(14,124 posts)
39. It usually takes a catastrophic event
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 02:47 PM
Feb 2021

That effects them personally. And they will expect others to have empathy for them!

OldBaldy1701E

(5,117 posts)
7. Isn't it amazing
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 08:55 AM
Feb 2021

that there is so much evidence of mental illness and yet our society seems to want to act like it is rare. You are right about the changes coming from within. These people remind me of the stubborn child who is told not to touch the stovetop and yet walks right over and sticks their finger on it. Sometimes they do it more than once. Then they wail and scream while acting like they had nothing to do with it. You can put some blame on the American condition. We have been brainwashed to believe that we are always right, that we are infallible, that we are god's gift to humanity. And to admit otherwise is to admit weakness and failure. Is it any wonder that so many of us are at each others throats and denying reality left and right?

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
19. They deny they have covid as they are being put on a ventilator?????
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:26 AM
Feb 2021

What's that say right there? They even tell the doctor, "Don't put I died of covid on my death certificate. It's not covid. It's something else". They're basically brain dead. I'm still wondering if it's something they're putting in the food, air, and water to keep people like zombies. Intentionally or not. Like they used bromide to keep the libido down in the military. They dispose of so many chemicals any way they can. It seems like humans aren't human anymore.

And as I've said many times on this site, check out a government program, evidenced in a book called The Deliberate Dumbing Down if America. It will help to explain a lot.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
40. Hmm, that book's foreword...
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 04:14 PM
Feb 2021

I ck'd for reviews and found this quoted foreword in a review:

Foreword:

“American social engineers have systematically gone about destroying the intellect of millions of American children
for the purpose of leading the American people into a socialist world government controlled by behavioral and social scientist.”


A "*socialist* world government" the author stated. Wow, really?


Thanks but I'll pass on this paranoia. My 33yo son received an excellent education in our Virginia public schools (including UVa).

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
41. It's called brainwashing. Or teaching to the test. Take your pick.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 06:49 AM
Feb 2021

No disrespect meant. Another interesting read, Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
36. In a world where an expanding population fights for finite resources, .....
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:08 AM
Feb 2021

the echo chamber and facts have equal gravitas.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
10. It's so hard
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:01 AM
Feb 2021

I found a photo of a deceased relative. She was holding my arm at my mother’s funeral. Ten years after that, she mentally placed me on the side of her children that did not share her radical, weird religious, political thoughts. I got cut off. Now, years after her own funeral, I am realizing the much larger pain she caused with both her cut off children and the ones who shared her beliefs. The family was left hurting. I want to blame all this on some sort of dementia. I look at that photo and remember that she told me my Mother loved me so much a day I so needed to hear that. It’s nothing but pain.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
12. Greetings from elsewhere in South Carolina!
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:07 AM
Feb 2021

Good to see you back! I'm sorry you're having to go through that. I hope you, Tater and Moonpie are doing, otherwise.

AirmensMom

(14,642 posts)
13. Sounds like the Borg to me.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:11 AM
Feb 2021

It happened in our family. There's only one sane person left.

It's good to see you, though. You still have us.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
18. Missed ya'. Really glad you're back.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:21 AM
Feb 2021

We are family here. Sometimes and for some of us all the family we have but we are always here.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
21. Welcome back. I missed you.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:38 AM
Feb 2021

I don't know how our country can move forward with half the population believing extraordinary lies. I'm really at a loss.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
22. Yep, my sister and her family in SC are lost too...
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:42 AM
Feb 2021

...amazing that people who are educated believe the nonsense.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
23. good to see you Grits!
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:43 AM
Feb 2021

I'm sorry about your family. I've pretty much lost one brother. we're still civil so far, but - well, dunno if i'll ever see him again. it hurts.

SallyHemmings

(1,821 posts)
24. 2020 was a lost year
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:45 AM
Feb 2021

sums it up.

I am out of suggestions for connecting to the trumpers. Walking away may be best for your mental health at least for now.

It would be far worse of he won re-election. He didn’t.

Sleepy Joe has been the perfect dose of sanity. On some level, the trumpers may see the temperature drop. Maybe.

You are not alone on this journey.


Always Randy

(1,059 posts)
26. There is hope---your next door neighbor---GEORGIA
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 09:53 AM
Feb 2021

The RWNJ and Trump --flipped the state BLUE ----there is now a reverse migration with families moving back to Georgia. Confederate monuments are being torn down. Stacey Abrams will be their next Governor. And a criminal investigation of Lindsay Graham's interference with the Georgia election is underway. I would ask that you insert this into your morning gratitude mantra. Texas BLUE in 22.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
27. Hi, Grits.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:01 AM
Feb 2021

I recently had to break up with a girlfriend whom I dear loved. Not because she turned Trump but for other reasons. The heartbreak still touches my every waking moment. Your wrote, "I still love them but I love who they were and I have fond memories. That is all that is left." Those words are helping me see it in a different light, helping to make sense of it, compartmentalize it, and lay it to rest. Thank you.

randr

(12,409 posts)
28. They all stepped into deep deep doo
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:08 AM
Feb 2021

Even if they get the shit off they will still stink for a long time. They know this and are reluctant to wash off the shit as it is their only means of identification to each other.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
29. Speaking of grits . . .
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:30 AM
Feb 2021

There's a pot of Geechie Boy Mills stone ground grits bubbling on my stove as we speak. Making grits and grllliards for supper tonight.

twodogsbarking

(9,732 posts)
30. Shrimp and grits with local St. Johns Island shrimp.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:38 AM
Feb 2021

Didn't make it to SC this year. Stay well grits. The best part of life is yet to come.

AmBlue

(3,110 posts)
31. Welcome back.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:41 AM
Feb 2021

I hear you and I'm so sorry. My own college age son and his GF have been victims of the propaganda too. In their case it is not severe but I worry it will worsen. And you're right. Unfortunately, we can't change them. We can only love them and hope for something that will open their eyes to the truth.

BumRushDaShow

(128,846 posts)
35. Wow. It's been forever since you last posted
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 10:58 AM
Feb 2021

Glad to see you back and you're right, 2020 was a nightmarish lost year that followed 3 previous wasted years.

And I missed seeing this --

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