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Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:22 AM

We don't need a functional GOP

Jennifer Rubin
Feb. 21, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. EST

... modern conservatism, in large part a response to the Cold War, is ideologically spent ...

... there is no particular reason to hope for a revived Republican Party insofar as .. a vehicle for an exhausted ideology ... There are socially conservative but economically progressive parties in Western Europe that embrace a strong social contract ...

... we should abide by one core principle: A right-wing, populist and authoritarian party should not be allowed to hold power. It has proved to be dangerous, racist and fundamentally un-American ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/21/pundits-are-wrong-we-dont-need-functional-gop/

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:25 AM

1. We need 2 parties: moderate & progressive Democratic leaders

So that when they negotiate & compromise, citizens are not being screwed beyond belief by qpubes.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:27 AM

3. :)

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:27 AM

2. Sane Republicans need to leave the GOP

Jennifer Rubin
Feb. 22, 2021 at 7:45 a.m. EST

... “By double digits, 46%-27%, those surveyed say they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one,” USA Today reports. Additionally, they are under the ludicrous and false impression that the Jan. 6 insurrection was the doing of antifa (58 percent) rather than the disgraced former president’s followers (28 percent). It comes as no surprise that nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of the MAGA Republican Party think that President Biden was not legitimately elected ...

... Fox News is no longer nutty enough for many of them ...

A few observations are in order. First, these people have been thoroughly brainwashed by right-wing media. Second, the cult is self-reinforcing. (The cult leader lost? The enemies cheated. The cult leader messed up on covid-19? The death toll is exaggerated.) Now that they are heading for even crazier “news” outlets, the notion that we are going to reason with such voters is preposterous ...

... Theirs is a White Christian movement brimming with resentment and suspicion; these are not people you can win over with great policy ideas ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/22/maga-cult-wont-leave-gop-so-sane-republicans-must/

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:59 AM

6. YEP

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:39 AM

8. You just described the area that I live in!

The things you mention in your posts are things I hear all the time. They are nice people who are really screwed up, and there is no reasoning with them. Thank heavens for my close friends who believe the same things I do, and a special thanks for the people here on DU that help keep me sane!

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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:14 AM

12. Not "belief" but "know"

There’s a big difference between the “true believers” -- whether Trumpists or, let’s face it, some Liberals, who simply suck up what their sources tell them to believe; and those of us (I include most people at DU) who want facts and trust facts and are skeptical until the facts can be examined.

Unlike the Trumpet “believers", you and your friends are, for want of a better word, “knowers.” We err sometimes. But generally, we practice the State motto of Missouri and ask “show me.” (Except, yeah, I know, MO put Josh Hawley in the Senate because the voters didn’t practice what that motto preaches!)

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:51 AM

4. i was young when the "solid south" was a democratic single party bloc

we had many choices from "old regular" machine democrats through reform democrats, liberals and the black tickets.

now the single party in most of the south (outside the "black majority" districts into which we gerrymandered ourselves) is trumpist republican and there are no choices.

we are a big tent. welcome the evangelicals and dixiecrats back in (where we can marginalize them) and we do not need republicans.

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Response to rampartc (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:29 AM

14. FUCK NO. No racist Dixiecrat should EVER be allowed into The Democratic Party.

If you think I can be rude now, if those fuckers are allowed in to set policy I will be going off the charts in protest and rudeness.

The same with the FAKE christian evangelicals - they are nothing but stupid bigoted ignorant uncaring un-Christian grifters and criminals. EVERY FUCKING ONE!



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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:55 AM

5. Gingrich-type conservatives have bottled up liberalism for 25 years or more

It's like water rising behind a dam. When it finally gets to the top it breaks the dam and washes away the obstruction.

May the cleansing be complete.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:15 AM

13. And may Gingrich and his type be washed away!

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:12 AM

7. The GOP reigned when oil refinery magnates joined with "red scare" warriors.

Now, as both of those concerns diminish, the QOP emerges, fronting their narrow mission. Soon enough, enthusiasm for even that pointless exercise will evaporate as white supremacy joins imperialist colonialism on the trash heap of history.

So then and at last, the nations of men may have their kumbaya as they helplessly and desperately battle climatic disorder on a battlefield of frost and fire.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:59 AM

9. Amen.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:00 AM

10. The Radical Republican Reich, formerly the Republican Party, is a threat to the U.S.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:01 AM

11. Let the Republican Party fragment and die.

Help the process along whenever possible.

Simply pointing out that racism, misogyny, religious extremism, and hating LGBTQ people are bad for business is a start.

Separate the Trump crowd from corporate political donors.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:38 AM

15. I heartily endorse this post and these responses!

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:43 AM

16. Coming from Jennifer Rubin, an avowed conservative, this is a remarkable take

Four years of Trump has torn down the facade that so many Republicans had constructed as an alibi for their ruthlessness and lies.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 09:27 AM

17. I believe that the Democrats should actively found a Left-of-Left Party

There are at least some Democrats/Independents that find the Democratic Party too centrist for their tastes and end up voting for obscure third party no-chancers or more likely don't vote. Capture them by working hand-in-glove with a Left-of-Left Democratic party during the election and then caucus with them during the governing process. They would be a force moving forward that the Right could not touch because we are growing more liberal as a society while the Right is exhausting its ranks of elderly white voters.

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

18. We need a dem liberal party

And an even more liberal party.

The republicans have no platform. At this point they are traitors and trying to abuse power. We don't need a sociopath party and that's what republicans are.

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