Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:25 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

Tanden. Help please, on issues.

All I am hearing here are her mean tweets. And that is pure silliness to me along with wagging fingers and scolds from men. But, I also hear there are other reasons to not want her. Twitter was all over me, but mostly Sanders people and I am so done arguing with them. I have done a bit of research but conversation will make it easier.

Why does Biden really want Neera Tanden? And is it just a divide with Sanders supporters/Republicans and the Democratic base? I know she went after Manchin daughter with epi pen increase, I remember that one.

What I have heard that makes her not a good candidate, though the people arguing use much more harsh ugly language for the woman, like vile, evil, wh**e. That tends to make me fight for a woman even harder.

I have heard from people on twitter:

Against ss. (I figure this is like Sanders supporters going after Biden during the primary which was bogus)
Outed sexually harassed woman in corporate meeting. (I heard it was accident, Sanders supporters said she purposely and repeatedly).
Something about Lybia and wanting to murder lots of people.

Can you all help me out your opinion of what makes her strong or a weak candidate? What I have read about her "mean" tweets is crap.

Thanks.

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
Tanden. Help please, on issues. (Original post)	LizBeth	Feb 2021	OP
The very people who are carrying on	True Blue American	Feb 2021	#1
I believe there is more along the lines	White Fox	Feb 2021	#2
+1	leftstreet	Feb 2021	#3
The Medicare cuts are very similar to those that Medicare for all would envision	dsc	Feb 2021	#4
Have you heard anything she has said of late with the issue? Wasn't this in line with Obama	LizBeth	Feb 2021	#6
yes-- she's a mainstream Dem. The Bernie left hates her though and distorts what she says	LymphocyteLover	Feb 2021	#9
It took me a day to digest and process the absolute assault on twitter then realized this was	LizBeth	Feb 2021	#10
yep-- same dynamic. So sad this still goes on.	LymphocyteLover	Feb 2021	#11
+1	LizBeth	Feb 2021	#12
Wasn't this along the line of Obama and that was back in 2012. The conversation is different today.	LizBeth	Feb 2021	#5
This morning, I have been unable to find	White Fox	Feb 2021	#7
You would think if this is a deal, there would have been conversation about it. Instead all we hear	LizBeth	Feb 2021	#8
Wait...what? Isn't that the fallacy of negative proof?	lapucelle	Feb 2021	#14
This message was self-deleted by its author	lapucelle	Feb 2021	#13

Response to LizBeth (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:44 PM

True Blue American (15,559 posts)

1. The very people who are carrying on

About Neera’s awful, terrible tweets, etc. at present the same ones who stood aside and let Trump abuse half the Country. They are hypocrites to the Nth degree! And cable news is making it worse. Neera is a brilliant strategist. That is why the simple minded hate her! Shades of Hillary Clinton!

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Response to LizBeth (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:44 PM

White Fox (69 posts)

2. I believe there is more along the lines

of being in favor of cutting SS and Medicare...

"Tanden explained her views in a February 2012 C-SPAN interview. Asked by a caller about entitlement reform, she named Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid as targets for possible cuts, noting that “the president has $300 million in his budget in cuts in Medicare.”

“That comes on top of cuts in Medicare for the Affordable Care Act. So he has put specific cuts in the budget in Medicare,” she said. “And they had savings in Medicaid in the past. I think the question really is: If we’re going to have a deal to address long-term deficit reduction, we need to put both entitlements on the table as well as taxes.”

Tanden became more explicit in her support for cuts to Social Security as she went on:

“We should have savings on entitlements, and the Center for American Progress has put forward ideas on proposals to reform the beneficiary structure of Social Security — some of our progressive allies aren’t as excited about that as we are,” she explained. “But we’ve put those ideas on the table. We think that those are legitimate ideas that need to be part of a proposal where everyone’s at the table. We don’t just ask middle-class Americans to sacrifice. We ask all Americans.”
[link:https://www.dailyposter.com/p/biden-picks-budget-director-who-pushed|

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Response to White Fox (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:47 PM

leftstreet (34,564 posts)

3. +1

Unfortunately the obsession with her tweets is just a distraction

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Response to White Fox (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:48 PM

dsc (51,293 posts)

4. The Medicare cuts are very similar to those that Medicare for all would envision

that is paying providers less for the services they provide. The only way Medicare for All saves money, and the way universal systems save money in other places, is by using their superior negotiating power to negotiate better rates to providers.

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Response to dsc (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:02 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

6. Have you heard anything she has said of late with the issue? Wasn't this in line with Obama

and doesn't that go along the lines of attack toward Biden during the primary?

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:07 PM

LymphocyteLover (3,356 posts)

9. yes-- she's a mainstream Dem. The Bernie left hates her though and distorts what she says

because she wasn't a supporter of Medicare for all.

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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:35 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

10. It took me a day to digest and process the absolute assault on twitter then realized this was

all about 2016 and the absurdity of different standards for a woman and an old privileged white man.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:51 PM

LymphocyteLover (3,356 posts)

11. yep-- same dynamic. So sad this still goes on.

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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 05:09 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

12. +1

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Response to White Fox (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 03:18 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

5. Wasn't this along the line of Obama and that was back in 2012. The conversation is different today.

Have you heard if she holds to what she said in 2012? Thanks for the info.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:17 AM

White Fox (69 posts)

7. This morning, I have been unable to find

any statements or news in the past 2 years regarding these views.

So if she has revised those opinions I was not able to find documentation.

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Response to White Fox (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:39 PM

LizBeth (9,603 posts)

8. You would think if this is a deal, there would have been conversation about it. Instead all we hear

are her meqan tweets. Thanks for checking, sorry you put the time into it, but I appreciate it.

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Response to White Fox (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 27, 2021, 04:25 PM

lapucelle (14,630 posts)

14. Wait...what? Isn't that the fallacy of negative proof?

A person close to Tanden said that she made those remarks about Social Security when President Barack Obama was doing much of the same and is now in close alignment with Biden, who has advocated for expanding the program.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/30/bernie-supporters-seethes-neera-tanden-441603

When all roads lead back to the dubious Walter Bragman (who slurs Joe Biden in the same hit piece you link to), and the only thing the hapless Walter has in his bag tricks of consists of decontextualized information from 2012, I don't think the problem is with Neera Tandan.

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