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babylonsister

(171,031 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:26 PM Feb 2021

"An Unelected Parliamentarian Does Not Get to Deprive 32 Million Americans the Raise They Deserve"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/2/26/2018193/--An-Unelected-Parliamentarian-Does-Not-Get-to-Deprive-32-Million-Americans-the-Raise-They-Deserve

"An Unelected Parliamentarian Does Not Get to Deprive 32 Million Americans the Raise They Deserve"
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Common Dreams

Leading progressives—including Sen. Bernie Sanders and Reps. Ro Khanna and Pramila Jayapal—reacted with opposition and disbelief Thursday evening after Elizabeth MacDonough, the chief Senate parliamentarian, issued her belief and guidance that inclusion of a federal minimum wage increase in the pending Covid-19 relief package does not qualify for the budget reconciliation process that would allow the bill to be passed by the chamber with a simple majority.

"I strongly disagree with tonight's decision by the Senate Parliamentarian," said Sanders in a statement. Citing recent reviews by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which showed the outsized impact that raising the wage would have on the federal budget, the Vermont lawmaker and current Senate Budget Committee chairman—who has made raising the federal minimum a cornerstone of his presidential campaigns in both 2016 and 2020—said the assessment wildly missed the mark.

"The CBO made it absolutely clear that raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour had a substantial budgetary impact and should be allowed under reconciliation," Sanders said. "It is hard for me to understand how drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge was considered to be consistent with the Byrd Rule while increasing the minimum wage is not."


CNN

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday evening the provision will remain in the House bill on which the chamber is voting Friday. However, the parliamentarian ruled that the increase to $15 per hour did not meet a strict set of guidelines needed to move forward in the Senate's reconciliation process. That means that the House will pass its bill, the Senate will have to strip the minimum wage provision out, and then eventually the House will have to pass that bill again at the end of the process.

(snip)

"We are deeply disappointed in this decision," Schumer said in a statement following the ruling. "We are not going to give up the fight to raise the minimum wage to $15 to help millions of struggling American workers and their families. The American people deserve it, and we are committed to making it a reality."

The parliamentarian's decision marks the end of a multi-weeks effort by Senate Budget Chairman Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, to include the provision in the relief bill.


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"An Unelected Parliamentarian Does Not Get to Deprive 32 Million Americans the Raise They Deserve" (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2021 OP
Illinois is eleven....so the graphic isn't accurate questionseverything Feb 2021 #1
Arkansas is $11, too. rickyhall Feb 2021 #2
The parliamentarian makes $64 per hour, I read somewhere. Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #3
The parliamentarian isn't depriving anyone of anything. The senators are. NYC Liberal Feb 2021 #4
Correct relayerbob Feb 2021 #6
I also support overruling mvd Feb 2021 #5
The Parliamentarian plays more of the role of Referee. Omnipresent Feb 2021 #7
OREGON .... WE HAVE A $12.00 MIM WAGE Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #8
Manchin & Sinema made it clear they stand with the parliamentarian. highplainsdem Feb 2021 #9
So derail the $1400 pmts & the Covid relief for an item that should be handled legislatively Budi Feb 2021 #10
Then don't use reconciliation to pass it. Loki Liesmith Feb 2021 #11
Nowhere near enough Senate votes to pass it otherwise. highplainsdem Feb 2021 #13
Then we can't pass it. Loki Liesmith Feb 2021 #20
K & R Thank You! It is a Republican move & they'd be cheering the demise of the parlimentarian Budi Feb 2021 #21
And btw, there have been times when Bernie Sanders agreed with the parliamentarian's decisions highplainsdem Feb 2021 #12
K & R Thank You! Ok, so which is it Sen Sanders? Budi Feb 2021 #18
She's getting death threats BlueLucy Feb 2021 #14
Hadn't heard the parliamentarian was getting death threats, but that's horrifying. I hope anyone highplainsdem Feb 2021 #15
Yes, It's sad. BlueLucy Feb 2021 #16
"We're going to kill the Parlimentarian's family....." Budi Feb 2021 #19
Harris & the Parlimentarian aren't responsible for a failed campaign promise. Budi Feb 2021 #17
Yikes! I'm starting to think like a Republican: Let's bring the $15 minimum wage up again in 2022. LaMouffette Feb 2021 #22
It is amazing that Washington state has the highest minimum wage at $13.50 Ka-Dinh Oy Feb 2021 #23
Apparently she does Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #24
Wikipedia sez she has a thing called a "term length". aocommunalpunch Feb 2021 #25
Any state could pass a $15 per hour min wage at any time MichMan Feb 2021 #26
A state or any local government. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #28
Updated minimum wage chart by state... MerryBlooms Feb 2021 #27
See if it were me, MY response would be to insert a ten year, federal rent rate lock Volaris Feb 2021 #29
This stunt has never worked in the past LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #30

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
3. The parliamentarian makes $64 per hour, I read somewhere.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:39 PM
Feb 2021

Or maybe it was $84.

Time for Dems to step up and over-rule this. Voters gave us the power to do so.

DO IT.

mvd

(65,157 posts)
5. I also support overruling
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:44 PM
Feb 2021

But there is so much in this bill that even though the minimum wage increase is very important, I do not want to wait too long to pass it.

highplainsdem

(48,895 posts)
9. Manchin & Sinema made it clear they stand with the parliamentarian.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:50 PM
Feb 2021

So the bill wouldn't get through the Senate anyway.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. So derail the $1400 pmts & the Covid relief for an item that should be handled legislatively
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:56 PM
Feb 2021
Commondreams is really pushing this wedge today.

Considering the 15 won't actually take effect for a couple years, this reasoning is bullshit.
Grab that wedge commondreams..

Why the Senate Parliamentarian made the right call on the minimum wage"

www.reclaimthefight.com/2021/02/senate-parliamentarian-correct-on-minimum-wage.html?m=1

SNIP
Under the Congressional Budget Act, the law governing budget reconciliation, provision of a piece of legislation must meet a three-part test to qualify for a simple majority vote:

*The provision must not create a budgetary impact outside of the 10-year budget window.

*The provision must have a substantial impact on the revenue, outlays, or both, within the 10-year window.

*The impact that a provision has on the revenue or outlay cannot be merely incidental to non-budgetary changes made by the provision.

A provision that does not meet all three tests can still be part of a reconciliation package, but that provision must garner 60 votes to be included, basically defeating the purpose of using reconciliation to pass something in the first place.

*This is known as the Byrd rule.
MORE..

from reclaimthefight.
A more liberal & fair reporting site than commondreams biased wedge-based journos.


Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
20. Then we can't pass it.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:28 PM
Feb 2021

Trying to break the rules for reconciliation to get something done is a Republican move. And something we’d all criticize.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. K & R Thank You! It is a Republican move & they'd be cheering the demise of the parlimentarian
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:43 PM
Feb 2021

All forethought stops at a $15 failed campaign promise, that could have been put into legislation yrs ago by any one of those pointing the finger of fault at Harris & the Parlimentarian.

Where the have they been all this time?
Someone needs to start owning this shit & it ain't VP Harris nor the Parlimentarian..

But death threats to the parlimentarian are ok now. Right?
Who was just screeching about 'mean tweets' again?

"Their credibility is being lost on their bullshit" ~ quote

highplainsdem

(48,895 posts)
12. And btw, there have been times when Bernie Sanders agreed with the parliamentarian's decisions
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 04:58 PM
Feb 2021

re the Byrd rule:


https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/parliamentarian-determines-three-provisions-in-republican-tax-bill-are-impermissible


Parliamentarian Determines Three Provisions in Republican Tax Bill Are Impermissible
WASHINGTON, Dec. 19 – The Senate parliamentarian advised Tuesday that three provisions in the Republican tax bill violate the Byrd rule, including a provision allowing for the use of 529 savings accounts for home-schooling expenses, the short title: “The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act,” and part of the criteria used to determine whether the endowments of private universities are subject to the legislation’s new excise tax. These provisions may be struck from the conference report absent 60 votes.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), ranking member of the Budget Committee, and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), ranking member of the Finance Committee, issued a joint statement in response to the decision:

“In the mad dash to provide tax breaks for their billionaire campaign contributors, our Republican colleagues forgot to comply with the rules of the Senate. We applaud the parliamentarian for determining that three provisions in this disastrous bill are in violation of the Byrd rule. It is our intention to raise a point of order to remove these provisions from the conference report and require the House to vote on this bill again. Instead of providing tax breaks to the wealthiest people and most profitable corporations, we need to rebuild the disappearing middle class.”




It was NEVER going to be easy to keep the minimum-wage increase in that bill if reconciliation was used.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. K & R Thank You! Ok, so which is it Sen Sanders?
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:24 PM
Feb 2021

"..there have been times when Bernie Sanders agreed with the parliamentarian's decisions
re the Byrd rule:


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), ranking member of the Budget Committee, and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), ranking member of the Finance Committee, issued a joint statement in response to the decision:

In the mad dash to provide tax breaks for their billionaire campaign contributors, our Republican colleagues forgot to comply with the rules of the Senate.
We applaud the parliamentarian for determining that three provisions in this disastrous bill are in violation of the Byrd rule.

************
Sometimes? Always? Never? When I say so?
Which is it?


highplainsdem

(48,895 posts)
15. Hadn't heard the parliamentarian was getting death threats, but that's horrifying. I hope anyone
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:07 PM
Feb 2021

threatening her is caught and prosecuted and punished.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
19. "We're going to kill the Parlimentarian's family....."
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:27 PM
Feb 2021

Anyone care to talk about 'mean tweets' today?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
17. Harris & the Parlimentarian aren't responsible for a failed campaign promise.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:11 PM
Feb 2021

Harris & the Parlimentarian will follow the rules of order.

Imagine how he Republicans in the future, could use the burning-down of the Parlimentarian position to their advantage.

"If they drive a truck through budget reconciliation, it will leave a huge gaping hole for the Republicans in future."

Way to burn it all fking down for a failed campaign promise, that could have been legislated years ago.

Where were they all this time
?

When this stunt blows up the whole package, they'll blame the Democrats for not getting the $1400.
Win Win!! 🙄

LaMouffette

(2,019 posts)
22. Yikes! I'm starting to think like a Republican: Let's bring the $15 minimum wage up again in 2022.
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:46 PM
Feb 2021

Let the Republicans up for reelection try explaining to their constituents in an election year why they refuse to raise the minimum wage to an amount people can actually live on.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
23. It is amazing that Washington state has the highest minimum wage at $13.50
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 05:53 PM
Feb 2021

and we still barely keep our heads above water and for some not at all.

aocommunalpunch

(4,232 posts)
25. Wikipedia sez she has a thing called a "term length".
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:07 PM
Feb 2021

Apparently, it's at the:

Pleasure of the Senate Majority Leader
. I wonder if he could work some influence. I don't pretend to know what that would be, but he's the one to do it, as Senate Majority Leader. Good fundraising skills can only take you so far.

MichMan

(11,865 posts)
26. Any state could pass a $15 per hour min wage at any time
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:51 PM
Feb 2021

Regardless of anything the parliamentarian or the congress does.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
29. See if it were me, MY response would be to insert a ten year, federal rent rate lock
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 10:30 PM
Feb 2021

Into that recon bill, and then challenge the Senate GOP to either get behind the wage hike on a regular order vote,or we pass This Thing That Makes You Scream, with 51 votes and go to hell.

This is why I'm not allowed in congress.

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