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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:16 PM Mar 2021

Secret Service just released new docs showing Trump's first trip to Bedminster as POTUS in 2017 -- an


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David Fahrenthold
@Fahrenthold
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Mar 1, 2021
Secret Service just released new docs showing Trump’s first trip to Bedminster as POTUS in 2017 — and the spigot of taxpayer money it opened for his business.

First trip: 4 days, Trump Org charged the Secret Service $5,343 for a cottage near Trump.
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David Fahrenthold
@Fahrenthold
After that, the Secret Service started renting the cottage every night, just to be ready. Trump Org charged $566.64 per night, every night.

First bill: $9,689.60.

That was the start. Over Trump’s presidency, Trump charged taxpayers more than $392,000 for rooms at Bedminster.
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Secret Service just released new docs showing Trump's first trip to Bedminster as POTUS in 2017 -- an (Original Post) soothsayer Mar 2021 OP
"The Big Grift" madaboutharry Mar 2021 #1
The Grift by which all others will be measured. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #2
The blueprint for future ReThug Fascist to follow. This sets a precedence for normalcy to,.... magicarpet Mar 2021 #3
Yes it does. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #19
The invoice is pitifully amateur. This is a professional LuckyLib Mar 2021 #4
I didn't know it was standard procedure for Secret Service to have to pay for lodgings while serving msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #5
I didn't know it was standard procedure for Secret Service to have to pay for lodgings while serving msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #6
Bill of Rights--3rd Amendment... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #7
I'm not sure how this applies, does it mean Taxpayers are on the hook? msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #21
Technically, there is...the emoluments clause... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #22
Emoluments Clause being ignored, never enforced has to change msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #24
Too many hogs at the trough, from both sides unfortunately... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #25
Aren't they also charged for golf cart rentals? kskiska Mar 2021 #8
One time DENVERPOPS Mar 2021 #17
We should really require presidents to put their businesses in a blind trust... Takket Mar 2021 #9
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #10
DFG! UpInArms Mar 2021 #11
E. Mol. U. Ments. /nt Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #12
SCOTUS kicked that can down the road, I believe. Not sure if it can be revived. ancianita Mar 2021 #15
AND THE SCAM JUST KEEP'S GETTING BETTER BY THE DAY ! monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #13
Biden did the same as well gipper66 Mar 2021 #14
$2K a month sounds very reasonable. YMMV. beaglelover Mar 2021 #16
I agree gipper66 Mar 2021 #18
We generally don't accept the washington times (the source of that blog) as a news source. niyad Mar 2021 #20
Compare the costs: Ilsa Mar 2021 #23
You are making a false comparison Pachamama Mar 2021 #26
+100 Absolutely bronxiteforever Mar 2021 #28
Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Mar 2021 #27
Where's Joe Manchin on this? 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐 live love laugh Mar 2021 #29
Those days are over, Big Fella. I hear you are hurting financially..... secondwind Mar 2021 #30

magicarpet

(14,119 posts)
3. The blueprint for future ReThug Fascist to follow. This sets a precedence for normalcy to,....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:36 PM
Mar 2021

.... grift to your heart's content.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
5. I didn't know it was standard procedure for Secret Service to have to pay for lodgings while serving
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:46 PM
Mar 2021

a President or any other public office official.

If it isn't standard procedure, then it seems to me, Trumps retirement salary can be levied/garnished for these charges paid for by taxpayers and any other expenses he put on taxpayers which benefited him personally or his businesses. However the legal terminology is stated.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
6. I didn't know it was standard procedure for Secret Service to have to pay for lodgings while serving
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:47 PM
Mar 2021

a President or any other public office official.

If it isn't standard procedure, then it seems to me, Trumps retirement salary can be levied/garnished for these charges paid for by taxpayers and any other expenses he put on taxpayers which benefited him personally or his businesses. However the legal terminology is stated.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
7. Bill of Rights--3rd Amendment...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:17 PM
Mar 2021

Government cannot quarter soldiers in private homes without restitution.

I imagine this would be construed to cover SS agents as well.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
21. I'm not sure how this applies, does it mean Taxpayers are on the hook?
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:26 AM
Mar 2021

Or does it mean legally we are on the hook to enrich the President (or any other elected official requiring Secret Service) .

I'm thinking about how the 'quarters' in question is actually owned by the President in this case. Thereby was financially beneficial to that mobster. arrggh. Seems like there ought to be a law.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
22. Technically, there is...the emoluments clause...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:22 AM
Mar 2021

It never gets enforced, though, so it continues to happen.

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
24. Emoluments Clause being ignored, never enforced has to change
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:38 AM
Mar 2021

among other clauses that are ignored, never enforced.

And other amendments need to be strengthened.

If the Trump administration didn't teach Congress and the country this much, what in the hell will?


Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
25. Too many hogs at the trough, from both sides unfortunately...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:42 AM
Mar 2021

Politicians get rich, or at least most of them do. Very few of them like Uncle Joe.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
17. One time
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:18 PM
Mar 2021

the SS reserved the entire fleet of golf carts for a month at one of his local golf courses, even though it was for some other visitor and Trump didn't even go there.

The Trump Golf Course charged the SS a phenominal amount of money....way over the normal rates......

At Mar a Lago the Secret Service would rent rooms while they were down there, maybe once or twice a month for a few days.
Trump changed the rental policy on the rooms, to a ludicously high flat fee for an entire monthly price. That also made it very easy for people, especially foreigners, to Launder money to him by renting rooms for a month or more and never even occupying them......

The longer he was in office and got away with his corrupt schemes, the braver and more daring he got. I believe we will never know the amount Ivanka and Jared grifted during the beginnings of the Covid nightmare, when PPE and Respirators were being paid for at ludicrous prices and never delivered, and countless other schemes of theirs......

Takket

(21,528 posts)
9. We should really require presidents to put their businesses in a blind trust...
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:41 PM
Mar 2021

and prevent them from patronizing their own businesses while in office.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
11. DFG!
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:46 PM
Mar 2021
After that, the Secret Service started renting the cottage every night, just to be ready. Trump Org charged $566.64 per night, every night.

First bill: $9,689.60.

That was the start. Over Trump’s presidency, Trump charged taxpayers more than $392,000 for rooms at Bedminster.


When I can’t think I can despise him more ....

gipper66

(56 posts)
18. I agree
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:20 PM
Mar 2021

I just wanted to point out it has been done before. If it is not market rate, they should take the money back.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
23. Compare the costs:
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:31 AM
Mar 2021

$2,000 for a month vs almost $1,000 per day. $2,000 vs $30,000? The Bidens were recovering costs and utilities. Trump was just ripping off the public.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
26. You are making a false comparison
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:10 AM
Mar 2021

The charges of $2200 monthly for a cottage that could house multiple people and was the exact rent that the previous tenant paid and the local market rate sounds like a fair price. What Trump Org did in billing nightly, per room, is not the same thing and were jacked up prices to the usual rate.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
30. Those days are over, Big Fella. I hear you are hurting financially.....
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 07:21 PM
Mar 2021

couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Good riddance!!!


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