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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is the sad truth re:Cuomo
He will probably have to resign because Democrats will demand it. And the Democratic Party in NY will suffer because of it. Republicans here will run on how our Democratic Governor was a sexual predator and Dems can't be trusted. That Democrats held someone accountable will be ignored.
On the other hand, no Republican called out Trump for being a much worse sexual predator and rapist, he won the election even after the Access Hollywood tape, and there were no repercussions to the GOP's silence about Trump's behavior.
The sad truth is doing the right thing will not be politically advantageous.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I love my guv in MI.
Retrograde
(10,133 posts)Kathy Hochul, from the Buffalo area. She was briefly in Congress, but lost her seat to Chris Collins. So if Cuomo resigns she steps up: whether she can win in a state-wide election is another story.
cilla4progress
(24,726 posts)the right thing.
Still gotta do it, though. Gotta be able to look yourself in the mirror in the morning. It will matter to someone. Maybe your kids. That's reason enough.
edhopper
(33,573 posts)just how it will also hurts us. It's fucked up that people react like that. But America is pretty fucked up.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)gets stuck with a GQP governor. Bad behavior from a Dem does not mean a GQP would be a better alternative and we can drive that thought home to the voters. I sure as hell will dedicate myself to it.
I only know of one GQPer who is running for governor in NY in 2022 - Congressman Tom Reed, who was first elected as a Tea Party candidate in 2010. He is vulnerable to attacks on his hypocrisy for saying nothing about the orange fascist, making his attacks on Cuomo meaningless and worthless. I will make sure every NYer knows this. I despise the man. He is a smooth liar with a big, phony smile who pretends to be a moderate now.
I have been following his voting record and will be happy to create and spread attacks on him based on his record and his acceptance of the Trump immorality with women, health care, and immigration.
He is popular in his district (unfortunately, my district) and is using Buffalo media to report his "press conference" comments to in order to gain name recognition outside of his district in a blue city. Rural and north central NY are red. So we should not underestimate him.
We need to trash him and get out the Dem vote for whoever runs against him. We need someone with name recognition, a good record, and the ability to appeal to voters while making Reed look bad. Shouldn't be too hard to make him look bad. His family business is medical debt collection, with a record of complaints about tactics.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Trust me. It's not just a male thing.. especially when there's celebrity, or money, or position to be had. It's naive to think it doesn't happen when the stakes are high.
I'll wait for Cuomo to have the investigation he requested because That is truly the only just way to handle the accusations.
Honestly, every woman who has been a victim should be demanding both sides be heard.
Any woman who seeks to be Gov of NY should be holding off her opiniin of the Cuomo issue until both sides are heard.
Because THAT is how a fair & just Govenor should treat all people under her care.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)I'm pissed of at him, he was an asshole, an i'm not a hater. I was touting him as doing a great job this spring.
sop
(10,162 posts)this looks more serious.
it's more serious, all right. More serious case building.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)than case building, which is definitely happening. I will wait for the results of investigations on both issues, the nursing homes and the sexual harrassment accusations. But Cuomo himself is now admitting that he made jokes that were "insensitive" and could be "misinterpreted." Does not look good.
He has done a lot for NY. But if the investigations prove wrong doing, he will be pressurred to resign or face impeachment. The pressure will come from Dems in the state as well as the GQP.
sop
(10,162 posts)has been accused by fewer women. That will probably change, though.
Franken resigned very quickly - too quickly for many - engendering a lot of sympathy. Cuomo is likely to fight the accusations tooth and nail, creating a lot of animosity in the process.
Franken was very well liked by Democratic voters. Cuomo has a lot of political enemies in NY, and the Covid nursing home deaths scandal already has people calling for his resignation.
It will be interesting to see this play out.
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greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He's going to pull a Ralph Northam and ride it out for two weeks.
edhopper
(33,573 posts)but my point still stands.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,242 posts)watch All in w/Chris Hayes because he gave her credibility by having her on his show. Oh everyone was talking about it & was outraged. But the republicans/trump get a free pass for rape, assaults, horrendous abuses. It's a puzzler.
crickets
(25,963 posts)I liked him and enjoyed his show. I though he brought a fresh approach to things, thought he was good at getting the stories out that needed to be told. After that, I can't watch him now either.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)I don't think 1/2 of the Assembly will vote to impeach, much less 2/3 of the Senate vote to remove him.
Only impeachment and removal of a NY governor was in 1913.
How would a Cuomo impeachment work? A look at New Yorks process
https://www.syracuse.com/state/2021/03/how-would-a-cuomo-impeachment-work-a-look-at-new-yorks-process.html
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radius777
(3,635 posts)There are some deluded progressive politicians who think one of them will win it - but NY really is not as progressive as they think. It is a state the relies heavily on business, with a city that is the business capital of the world. It is a state that like any big state can have alot of problems with crime, homelessness etc that many voters don't always agree with progressives on. In the chaos a Repub can win. NY had a fairly popular Republican gov in Pataki for years, and NYC had Repub mayors (Giuliani, Bloomberg) for 20 years straight. So Republicans have proven they know how to capitalize on NY Dem infighting.
Rhiannon12866
(205,237 posts)He didn't win here in the Northeast.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)Thats what this is about. They chum the water when they have a photo that can be interpreted in that context and then hope others join in.
ancianita
(36,030 posts)This, imo, sounds exactly what this is about. And what do we do? Open that door to their stealth chicanery.
Retrograde
(10,133 posts)and Cuomo's up for re-election in 2022
Budi
(15,325 posts)Is already on this.
Claiming Cuomo is not only a Sexual Preditor but a CRIMNAL!
(Yet she defended an actual criminal predator.)
Stefanik & 2 other Repubs are readying a run for Gov. And that was before the Cuomo story broke.
Tell ya what, this whole thing & the pace at which it's metastasizing is straight up Roger Stone's playbook..
If there's a political sex scandal of the size & pattern of Bill Clinton's , Roger Stone is somewhere in the shadows. And this one is appearing to be much like the pattern of that one.
It isn't innocent. It is a political hit. Straight from Roger Stone & the Trump/Guiliani NY mobsters.
Thanks.
You make the most obvious point to consider.
Look at Stefanik go!
Man, she's on fire over a "Criminal Sexual Predator" (but not Trump)
Elise Stefanik
@EliseStefanik
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Feb 27
Criminal sexual predators do NOT get to announce their own review.
Criminal sexual predators do NOT get to appoint who conducts the investigation.
It is the height of Cuomo corruption and arrogance to expect New Yorkers to accept this.
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Elise Stefanik
@EliseStefanik
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Feb 28
Nice try #CorruptCuomo. New Yorkers arent stupid.
Sexual predator Cuomo digging deeper and deeper into his cesspool of corruption.
Criminal sexual predators dont get to unilaterally select the Judge you appointed to work with the AG to oversee an independent investigation.
*******
Elise Stefanik
@EliseStefanik
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3h
The Governor of New York must RESIGN.
He is a pervasive criminal sexual predator.
******
She's running for NY Gov 🙄
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)wnylib
(21,433 posts)co-chair of theTrump campaign in NY. He is a greater threat than Stefanik because he can draw moderate
votes with his phony moderate posturing. He even got the left leaning Buffalo News in a blue city to endorse him last November against the Dem candidate.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Nixie
(16,950 posts)the motive here. The timing of the pile-on is also suspect so close to Cuomos re-election.
crickets
(25,963 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)So they cook stuff up or embellish and spin and dig and hope Democrats will "helpfully" punish their own so Republicans don't have to get their hands dirty.
And Democrats almost always fall for it, saying they are "doing the right thing."
Letting Republicans succeed in this kind of remote character assassination, however, is not "the right thing."
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scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)I can see the kGOP running a left slanted republican like Forbes and pardoning Putin's Whore, this looks right of the Russian play book
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,413 posts)or say whatever it takes to win? - your past doesnt matter. Ours tends to be a bit more stringent to say the least.
ancianita
(36,030 posts)Hochul so that the new "shake things up" new Repub governor can give a state level pardon to Trump.
Qutzupalotl
(14,302 posts)Problem solved.
JI7
(89,247 posts)were replaced by other democrats .
I don't see how this would help republicans.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)major urban centers - NYC, Buffalo, and Rochester. Even those cities and their suburbs have GQP members. All of the rural areas in NY are very red. NY has had R governors in the past, and NYC has elected R mayors several times.
JI7
(89,247 posts)wnylib
(21,433 posts)Trumpist, remaking his image into a moderate, but elected first in 2010 as Tea Party. Very popular in his district and even got Buffalo's newspaper endorsement last November.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)There is NO EXCUSE for a man in the last 5 years, post Al Franken, post Harvey Weinstein, post Bill Cosby, and on and on and on, to think a young woman working for him is the appropriate target for sexual banter.
NONE.
Andrew Cuomo should have figured this out long ago. It doesn't matter what Trump got away with. That doesn't excuse Cuomo. Democrats actually stand for something, unlike the R's.
A long time ago, I was a new college grad working at a company where I had to do projects for multiple VP's. One of them was a sleaze, who couldn't resist saying gross things to me whenever I brought a report to his office. I'd begun to ask a male co-worker to deliver my work for me, just to avoid this guy. Then I got promoted, and I was working directly for the Exec. VP. Soon after I began, I had a chance to share with him my discomfort with The Sleazy Guy. He asked my permission to share this information with others.
Days later, an older woman supervisor told me the Exec VP had gone around to all the operating departments, asking if anyone else had had my experience. Then he went to the Sleazy Guy and told him his job was on the line. If he ever made another woman uncomfortable like that again, he was out the door.
And that was the end of that. This happened before Anita Hill taught everyone the meaning of the words "Sexual Harassment." All I knew is that the Sleazy Guy at work was saying personal things that made me squirm. And the Exec. VP knew it was wrong, too, and immediately put a stop to it.
Why all people haven't figured this out by now that this kind of behavior at work is wrong is beyond me.