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Magoo48

(4,707 posts)
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:14 AM Mar 2021

Really "Liberals"? "Lock em' up, lock em' up, lock em up".

When did we adopt this conservative/authoritarian/Republican chant? It never has set right with me. It seems to have begun its crossover when the right hurled it incessantly at Hillary. Is this who we are?

Justice is absolutely essential. Yet, look at where “lock em’ up” is a crippling, social injustice.
I’m offering no solutions other than a deeper look into modern, progressive approaches to crime and punishment like those practiced in some Scandinavian nations.

That said, “lock em up” sounds wrong coming from liberals.

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Really "Liberals"? "Lock em' up, lock em' up, lock em up". (Original Post) Magoo48 Mar 2021 OP
From the left, at least it's generally applied to appropriate situations. TwilightZone Mar 2021 #1
This Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #9
+1 This is not sloganeering. These people must be locked up, for the safety of the nation. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #20
I haven't heard any liberals chanting lately. Laelth Mar 2021 #2
Disagree ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #3
I disagree as well Chainfire Mar 2021 #11
Yes, and don't forget all the prison rape jokes. I've seen them here many times. Unfortunate. Treefrog Mar 2021 #4
I push back on those jokes, we all should. marble falls Mar 2021 #5
It's absolutely disgusting, though it has decreased significantly greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #7
I don't like when Democrats imitate republicans' PatSeg Mar 2021 #21
Libs chant it back at those who chanted it Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #6
You're right, that's how it started. Pushback. *sigh* Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #8
The people we want locked up Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #10
Justice is desirable as I said. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #24
Cool story n/t kcr Mar 2021 #12
+ a million. These are mean, anxious times, and meanness and Hortensis Mar 2021 #13
As a cop abolitionist and prison abolitionist, I agree. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #14
Spare me the guilt trips. Paladin Mar 2021 #15
No guilt trips, just posting my POV. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #25
No guilt trips? Only putting Liberal in quotes is all. kcr Mar 2021 #27
I wrote to my satisfaction; read into it what you will. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #28
You can't guilt trip me. BlueStater Mar 2021 #16
See #15. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #26
Big difference: THEY broke the law and should be locked up. Squinch Mar 2021 #17
Regarding the insurrectionists: Lock them up and comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #18
Sorry, i refuse to apologize (n/m) BradAllison Mar 2021 #19
No apologies needed, just my 2 cents. Magoo48 Mar 2021 #22
You're right. Lock him up. we can do it Mar 2021 #23
I sparingly use for only one UpInArms Mar 2021 #29

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
1. From the left, at least it's generally applied to appropriate situations.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:21 AM
Mar 2021

Wanting to lock up Trump for myriad legitimate legal violations, including inciting an insurrection, is a little different than wanting to lock Clinton up based on pizza-place conspiracy theories and wishful thinking.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. +1 This is not sloganeering. These people must be locked up, for the safety of the nation.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:06 PM
Mar 2021

Today's Qpublican Party is, sadly, a target-rich environment.

Insurrection is top of mind; Trump and literally hundreds of Congressional Qpublicans have endorsed and likely physically aided and abetted it.
DeJoy vandalized hundreds of millions of dollars worth of postal equipment, crippling our election and our economy.
Stephen Miller and dozens in the Trump Administration have committed crimes against humanity.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. I haven't heard any liberals chanting lately.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:22 AM
Mar 2021

But if we’re talking about “fomenting violent rebellion against the government of the United States,” I think “lock them up” is an appropriate response.

-Laelth

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
3. Disagree
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:22 AM
Mar 2021

When the trumpets were chanting that, it was about people over what they imagined were criminals, with no basis in fact.
Around here, the preponderance of those posts are regarding people for whom there is evidence, moderate to incontrovertible, that crimes were indeed committed.
You appear to be comparing thumbtacks to elephants.

Chainfire

(17,532 posts)
11. I disagree as well
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 10:51 AM
Mar 2021

But because it is satisfying to throw their shit back in their faces. It really pisses them off, and I find that very satisfying.

Yea, I know it is not right but sometimes being wrong just feels right.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
7. It's absolutely disgusting, though it has decreased significantly
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:33 AM
Mar 2021

Prison rape jokes are now routinely removed by juries, mainly due to the tireless work of people who simply won't abide them. Thanks to them. They used to be far more common here. The common tactic was to say "I'm just saying what happens, not what I want to happen." It was a cowardly and pathetic dodge.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
21. I don't like when Democrats imitate republicans'
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 12:16 PM
Mar 2021

ignorant behavior. In a perverse way, it often reinforces it. Of course, we should continue to demand justice, but that should be done within the system, through the appropriate channels. Yelling the same ignorant cries as the right sounds like a classic lynch mob.

I think that some on the right, take pleasure watching Democrats behave like them. "See! They aren't so holier-than-thou, are they?" It is a classic abuser's tactic to push people's buttons until they come down to the abuser's level.

Johnny2X2X

(19,056 posts)
6. Libs chant it back at those who chanted it
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:30 AM
Mar 2021

It's not a chant in a vacuum, but rather usually reserved for public people who've chanted lock her up prominently. Roger Stone and Michael Flynn have been seen chanting, "Lock her up, lock her up!" Many times. So when they've been in court/arrested, "lock him up", is just throwing that back at them.

And as far as the Anti American insurrectionists, they are enemies of our democracy, I don't care about them.

Magoo48

(4,707 posts)
24. Justice is desirable as I said.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 01:56 PM
Mar 2021

The phrase “lock em up” is simply repugnant, right-wing speak to me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. + a million. These are mean, anxious times, and meanness and
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 10:53 AM
Mar 2021

antagonism, and in some radicalization and hate, are spreading from the extremes to infect the middle. If some seem more like conservatives, it's not at all coincidence -- people typically react to threats by becoming more conservative emotionally.

We're unfortunately seeing more inappropriate acting out here. But then there aren't a whole lot of places to go for people who still support liberal goals even though they've become angry and frustrated with the constraints of liberal democratic principles and methods.

The Democratic Party's where it happens.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
15. Spare me the guilt trips.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:09 AM
Mar 2021

Anybody I want to see locked up will get the full protection of a judicial trial, probably multiple trials. As a liberal on a liberal site, I shouldn't have to even mention this. And the sooner trump and his goons are behind bars, the happier I'll be---no apologies.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
16. You can't guilt trip me.
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:17 AM
Mar 2021

Many of the assholes who stormed the Capitol and beat up cops were the same sort of people who chanted “LOCK HER UP!” for years and years.

Now they’re the ones being locked away for a long-ass time while the woman who was the target of their deranged hatred for so long will continue to enjoy all of life’s freedom. Yes, the irony is absolutely delicious and I am taking immense pleasure in savoring it. Sue me.

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
18. Regarding the insurrectionists: Lock them up and
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:57 AM
Mar 2021

throw away the key.

Lock every one of them up for a very long time. After a fair trial of course.

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