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Tue Mar 9, 2021, 10:52 PM

after we pass HR1 what is the enforcing mechanism ?

I am thinking positively. Somehow we pass HR1 ( we remove fillibuster or pause it for civil rights legislation) , how is it enforced in practice ?

What if red states just ignore it and keep ploughing along putting all sorts of restrictions in place ? You cant really throw a state in jail. So, how does this work ?

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Reply after we pass HR1 what is the enforcing mechanism ? (Original post)
drray23 Mar 9 OP
uponit7771 Mar 9 #1
jimfields33 Mar 9 #2
onecaliberal Mar 9 #3
WarGamer Mar 10 #5
WarGamer Mar 10 #4
drray23 Mar 10 #7
WarGamer Mar 10 #8
Fiendish Thingy Mar 10 #6
lastlib Mar 10 #9

Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Mar 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

1. K&R,

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:01 PM

2. We have to get through the courts first.

Itís going to be a road to go before it settles.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Mar 9, 2021, 11:10 PM

3. Courts will decide. The composition of the court worries me in its present form.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:11 AM

5. Barf, Clarence, Handmaiden, Good Hair, Scalito and JR won't have any of it...

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:10 AM

4. After?

How does the horse pull the cart from behind?

One, it's going to meet the Mother of all blockades in the Senate. As written, I suspect 10 DEMS will oppose. If trimmed back, possibly 3 DEMS will oppose. 1-2 DEMS will never support it or allow the filibuster to be killed.

Two... even if passed, it raises SERIOUS Constitutional issues...

Imagine if the Republicans had passed a law requiring VOTER ID in all 50 States.

Same thing.

Fight these things at the State level and worst case scenario... adapt to the new rules and GOTV.

Woot!! Woot!!!

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:35 AM

7. i dont think there is any constitutional problem.

The constitution explictly allow congress to make or alter laws regarding federal elections


The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations" (Article I, section 4).


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Response to drray23 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:38 AM

8. And every 4 years?

And what will Barf, Sleepy, GoodHair, Handmaiden, Scalito and JR think?

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 12:15 AM

6. Secretary of State, Governor and/or AG could all go to jail on federal charges. Nt

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Wed Mar 10, 2021, 01:05 AM

9. DOJ could sue any state that doesn't follow the new law...

Injunctory relief against any state that doesn't mind the p's and, uh.......(Never mind the Q's.........) whatever.

Yes, I could see a problem from R-appointed judges; we'd have to work around that.

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