Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:04 AM Mar 2021

The bigots always target women first...



Listening to Stephanie Cho tonight point out that Asian women are the bulk of the victims of anti-Asian hate crimes I couldn't help but think of similar stats showing Muslim women are overwhelmingly the victims of Islamophobic hate crimes.
The bigots always target women first...
The Mehdi Hasan Show
@MehdiHasanShow
An armed man killed 8 people, including 6 women of Asian descent, in 3 Georgia spas, but the police say that this attack was *not* racially motivated.
Stephanie Cho of @AAAJ_Atlanta does not believe that for a second. Listen to what she tells @mehdirhasan:


The twofer that women of colour have to endure on a daily basis.
For the utter horror show that is the right wing in America Male Whiteness & Patriarchy clasp each other tightly as they hate just cause they can, assault just cause they can, harass just cause they can, murder just cause they can.

And they get away with it over and over and inevitably it escalates to extreme violence, because in this white nationalist ethno centric environment they are never radicalised far right white supremacist terrorists, they always are a lone wolf. *Rolls Eye* And in this particular case sexualising the victims... they made me do it cause they turned me into a sex addict... stereotypical nasty that needs to do one. That shit is just another layering of the racism and hate that led to this mass shooting in the first place.



👀
32 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The bigots always target women first... (Original Post) Soph0571 Mar 2021 OP
For these people, they didn't have a bad day, the day had a bad them ck4829 Mar 2021 #1
If I were Asian American, I'd be carrying pepper spray when out in public. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #2
Not if you're gay. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2021 #3
True n/t Soph0571 Mar 2021 #6
Why isn't anyone talking about the MISOGYNY of the act? BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2021 #4
It seems like... 2naSalit Mar 2021 #8
wrong place LizBeth Mar 2021 #26
That was my 1st thought. Duppers Mar 2021 #9
Perhaps the culprit is an incel.. broiles Mar 2021 #14
He claims to have sexual addiction IronLionZion Mar 2021 #15
Imo, "incel" has always been a misnomer. Oneironaut Mar 2021 #19
Frank Figliuzzi brought it up last night on Brian Williams' show dlk Mar 2021 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #23
Misogyny is often and consistently ignored. That is why it is so insidious. LizBeth Mar 2021 #27
Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #5
What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #10
What the fuck was it? Mr. Evil Mar 2021 #20
Homophobic trash. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #25
Jeeeez... Mr. Evil Mar 2021 #32
The victims had a worse day than the guy who killed them IronLionZion Mar 2021 #7
Sounds like something an abuser says to his spouse PatSeg Mar 2021 #11
Weak pathetic bullies might think women are easier targets IronLionZion Mar 2021 #12
Low-hanging fruit. calimary Mar 2021 #13
K&R, looks like the cop who said that awful phrase is racist against Asians too. Just damn uponit7771 Mar 2021 #16
Anyone who targets gender differences IS a bigot. First, last, always. Hortensis Mar 2021 #17
And don't forget about the deaths of indigenous American women Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #21
And what about the 39 year old SF loser/idiot that attacked a 75 year old Asian lady Mr. Evil Mar 2021 #22
Yep Cosmo Blues Mar 2021 #24
Bullies always attack those they perceive as weaker than they are...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #28
The misogyny is most major organized religions is overwhelming Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #29
Here, the biggest danger to Islamic women is from the men in their families DFW Mar 2021 #30
Patriarchy is part and parcel to racist ideology. But don't get lost in the trees JCMach1 Mar 2021 #31

ck4829

(34,977 posts)
1. For these people, they didn't have a bad day, the day had a bad them
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:17 AM
Mar 2021

And they just can't see themselves as the common denominator for all that is going wrong.

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
2. If I were Asian American, I'd be carrying pepper spray when out in public.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:31 AM
Mar 2021

In my hand, ready to use. Bullies are losers—just like the loser Former Guy. He made bullying acceptable. It’s time to make bullying have consequences. On second thought, maybe carrying bear spray would be better.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
4. Why isn't anyone talking about the MISOGYNY of the act?
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:44 AM
Mar 2021

Misogyny and racism go together. Misogyny should not be ignored like everyone is doing.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
8. It seems like...
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:07 AM
Mar 2021

We aren't given credit for being able to handle more than one fact at a time. The dumbing down of America was all about getting rid of critical thinking to whittle everything down to either/or choices so that only one, inferior outcome can occur.

Oneironaut

(5,462 posts)
19. Imo, "incel" has always been a misnomer.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:01 AM
Mar 2021

I think that a lot of them, if not most probably do have / have had sex. The chief traits they all share are misogyny and sociopathic tendencies.

If an incel had sex, they would still continue being an incel (in the sense of belonging to that subculture). They could have sex every day, and still be part of that subculture. Their chief identifying traits are their severe mental illness, and their anti-social attitudes, imo.

dlk

(11,438 posts)
18. Frank Figliuzzi brought it up last night on Brian Williams' show
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:59 AM
Mar 2021

Figliuzzi is a former FBI assistant director for counterterrorism. He said these were hate crimes and brought up the fact President Obama had added women to the statute to be protected. Misogyny is so deeply ingrained in every culture in the world, too many people never even see it.

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mr. Evil

(2,749 posts)
32. Jeeeez...
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 06:21 PM
Mar 2021

At least you got to give them a piece of your mind before they got exiled to oblivion. Thanx for myself and everyone else here.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
7. The victims had a worse day than the guy who killed them
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:05 AM
Mar 2021

Having a bad day shouldn't lead to killing anyone, whether they are women, minorities, immigrants, or whoever.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
11. Sounds like something an abuser says to his spouse
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:37 AM
Mar 2021

"Don't piss me off and make me hurt you. I've had a bad day," putting the blame on the victim.

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
12. Weak pathetic bullies might think women are easier targets
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:38 AM
Mar 2021

their hero Trump certainly seemed to believe so.

calimary

(80,700 posts)
13. Low-hanging fruit.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:46 AM
Mar 2021

Perhaps they assume it’s easier to get away with - because it’s “just women.”

The whole second-class citizen thing. Except worse. Some men see women as mere possessions - to toy with and then dispose of.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Anyone who targets gender differences IS a bigot. First, last, always.
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:56 AM
Mar 2021

Just sayin'. Women are the majority who, when discussing bigotry, are often tacked on to a long list of minorities for a reason. And the biggest reason for that is bigotry against women.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,063 posts)
21. And don't forget about the deaths of indigenous American women
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:06 AM
Mar 2021

The murder rate among them is extremely high and under-reported.

Cosmo Blues

(2,440 posts)
24. Yep
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:13 AM
Mar 2021

The cop who tried to take over the press conference from the people of color also is a bigot against Asian people, gave the murderer a clean bill of health that he didn't think bias against Asians was part of the motive. Meanwhile the murderer first went to Young's Asian spa, then drove 27 miles to his next Asian spa so...

Johnny2X2X

(18,745 posts)
29. The misogyny is most major organized religions is overwhelming
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:21 PM
Mar 2021

In Christianity it goes all the way to the Garden of Eden stories and then never lets up, the Bible is filled with violence and misogyny.

DFW

(54,057 posts)
30. Here, the biggest danger to Islamic women is from the men in their families
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:33 PM
Mar 2021

"Honor killings," an obscene expression in itself, kill many women in Islamic families here in Europe, and I can only imagine what the incidence is in countries where the culture is dominant.

JCMach1

(27,544 posts)
31. Patriarchy is part and parcel to racist ideology. But don't get lost in the trees
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:51 PM
Mar 2021

Because the media would rather do a deep dive into anti-Asian racism than an expose of misogyny in the Southern Baptist Church and offshoots.

I also caution that the murderer may have been INCEL, or INCEL adjacent. There have been numerous cases where police and prosecutors have tried to hide that type of stochastic terror.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The bigots always target ...