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Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:11 AM

So were those massage parlors fronts for prostitution??

I read an article that said the shooter had frequented those establishments. I have often wondered seeing those Asian massage studios with all the drapes in the windows if that was the case? They are open so late and some are open 24 hours. If it is true he had a sex addiction and wanted to be rid of the temptations; could it be that was where he was getting his addiction serviced in those places??

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Reply So were those massage parlors fronts for prostitution?? (Original post)
hookaleft Mar 2021 OP
CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #1
yardwork Mar 2021 #2
Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #13
yardwork Mar 2021 #36
Percy Mar 2021 #42
Kaleva Mar 2021 #3
hookaleft Mar 2021 #5
Alpeduez21 Mar 2021 #8
treestar Mar 2021 #39
Kaleva Mar 2021 #27
hookaleft Mar 2021 #30
CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #6
Celerity Mar 2021 #9
Kaleva Mar 2021 #28
marble falls Mar 2021 #32
treestar Mar 2021 #40
marble falls Mar 2021 #44
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marble falls Mar 2021 #48
treestar Mar 2021 #49
Nexus2 Mar 2021 #4
obamanut2012 Mar 2021 #56
samnsara Mar 2021 #7
treestar Mar 2021 #43
rampartc Mar 2021 #10
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Kid Berwyn Mar 2021 #11
Marcuse Mar 2021 #12
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hookaleft Mar 2021 #19
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BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #18
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mainer Mar 2021 #20
CrackityJones75 Mar 2021 #21
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malaise Mar 2021 #31
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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:12 AM

1. bingo

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:15 AM

2. Yes and the women may have been trafficked.

The women may have been there against their will.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:42 AM

13. There's no "may" about it

These places are fronts for human trafficking and anyone who frequents them is supporting human trafficking and slavery.

Maybe there is an Asian Massage parlor or two in the country that is on the up and up, but I doubt it. The young women that are forced to work at them are held in captivity and they were tricked into coming here. They were promised legal passage to America and jobs in restaurants, their captors tricked them and hold immigration over their heads. So they get to America, do not speak the language, and are told they have to work off the cost of bringing them there. They have no choice. Many of the girls at these parlors are underaged and have IDs that were forged to show they are 18. And it takes years for them to earn their freedom. This is a true evil that goes on in every city in this country. This is human trafficking right out in the open and very little is ever done to stop it.

That's why it's not something to be joked about, terms like "rub and tug" and "jerk joint" disguise the true evil that is occurring at these places. Anyone who goes to one of these places is sick and deserves jail.

Also, Trump has Trump brand massage parlors, he's trademarked them in several countries. He also has escort services. He's been involved in human trafficking for decades and his grand father was a pimp in the old West. Society needs to put an end to this now, it's pure racism that allows Asian Massage parlors to exist everywhere across the country. American culture views these girls as less than human or we would put a stop to it. A giant sex trafficking ring right in front of us and it's just accepted.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:59 AM

36. Thank you for posting this.

I have been worried about the children at the border who disappeared under the Trump administration.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:04 AM

42. I always suspected that's what's going on

You wrote a really good synopsis -- thanks for putting it all in one place for us. I hope this horrific event brings what's going on in these places to light so we can put an end to it.

There was a sting in NY a couple of years ago targeting the nail salons where most of the workers were enslaved young Asian women brought here just as you describe. They disappeared overnight basically ... and some of the young women were rescued. Not sure what happened to them legally.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:15 AM

3. Are you suggesting the murders may be justified then?

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:17 AM

5. Why would you think that?

I have no beef with prostitution. I am just curious and maybe naive.

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Response to hookaleft (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:28 AM

8. This sounds like a justification to me.

"If it is true he had a sex addiction and wanted to be rid of the temptations; could it be that was where he was getting his addiction serviced in those places?"

It can be couched as just a statement of curiosity or naivete but it sure reads like a statement of justification for what appears to be a racist attack against women.

Frankly I don't care what the 'justification' for cold blooded murder is. Lock them up. If you commit heinous acts they should NOT be justified. They should be punished.

I think prison might cure a lot of 'justifications' for crimes against society.





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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:01 AM

39. That's really stretching - going out of our way

to find offense. Why are you so eager to find someone "justifying" the murders on DU?

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Response to hookaleft (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:39 AM

27. How is it relevant to the murders?

I don't see how it matters at all.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:42 AM

30. It doesn't matter....

He is still the scum of the earth. I just asked an innocent question and it irked some folks.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:17 AM

6. How on earth did you interpolate that from a serious question?

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:31 AM

9. +1

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:40 AM

28. Freepers are really pushing this. The women were prostitutes so it really isn't s big deal.

Not saying the OP is a Freeper.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:45 AM

32. Sure sounds that way to me. Kind of an offensive OP. It doesn't matter if the victims were shot ...

... in Macy's or the Mustang Ranch. They were murdered.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:02 AM

40. Of course they were

No one says differently.

The discussion of why does not mean anyone is saying they weren't.

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Response to treestar (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:05 AM

44. You read it differently than most of us on this thread do.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #44)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:09 AM

47. So the bandwagon argument?

"Most" are looking to find someone they can virtue spill onto, claiming they are justifying murders by talking about what goes on in the killer's head!

No one said the murders were OK, that is a straw man.

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Response to treestar (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:11 AM

48. Oh please.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:16 AM

49. Yes, oh please.

You are so much better a person than people who would justify murder! If only there were any on DU!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:15 AM

4. It was reported that they weren't on the police radar for Vice a few times,, so I suspect not.

Or if so it wasn't widely known. One the people interviewed was a woman that claimed to be a customer of one, for what its worth.

As a total aside, did anyone see the Slutever episode that discussed the scarcity of 'Happy Ending' massage providers for women?

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Response to Nexus2 (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:36 AM

56. Gosh, I wonder why?

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:22 AM

7. thats exactly what I was thinking..even in the beginning i found it was odd he targeted just

...these shops. Who would even know what or where they are unless......anyway, if he was out to deliberately shoot as many Asian Americans as possible I would assume he would go to any strip mall nail salon or, a Chinese Buffet or Thai restaurant. I mean these places say what kind of food is served right on the front of their establishment.

I get the gut feeling hes a mad nutter and not (in this case) gunning for minorities.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:05 AM

43. Perhaps being Asian wasn't so much the issue

as the misogyny, and he would have shot women of any race.

For example, it doesn't sound like it has to do with China allegedly deliberately causing the pandemic. More with his sexual problems.

Note to the ultra-virtuous: this is not excusing him, but talking about how or why he might have done it in his sick mind.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:35 AM

10. "rub and tug"

"happy ending" costs extra. other outcomes might be negotiated.

are the girls there willingly? very questionable and problematic.

is it technically "prostitution?" most vice squads leave them alone most of the time.

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Response to rampartc (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:44 AM

14. It's sexual slavery

This is brutal human trafficking going on at a large scale across the country and people still downplay it.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:37 AM

57. Some posts in this thread are enraging me

Including the OP.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:38 AM

11. So what?

TERRORIST asswipe targeted ASIAN WOMEN.

All the victim blaming is sideshow.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:40 AM

12. It's more likely that he was angered because the women denied demands to service his addiction

or because he was unable to perform.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:50 AM

15. On MSNBC this morning they were reported to be respectable businesses,

as in answer to that question.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 07:51 AM

16. Lots of claims made in this post

and so far not one reference but, it's ok to just put these out there I guess.
I care zero, what the murderer claims. What I do know is that the pathetic piece of shit killed 8 people most of whom were Asian women.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:02 AM

17. None of this matters. He had no right. Stop trying to justify this or mitigate his crime.

He killed 8 Women!!!!! He had no right to do that. No matter what.

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:05 AM

19. He is a monster.....

I am not trying to justify or victim blame. I asked a question as to whether those parlors I see all over the place were brothels or not.

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Response to hookaleft (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:47 AM

33. Go find out.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:03 AM

18. Many of them are offering more than just massages

I only see men coming out of the one near my house, which is next door to one of my favorite takeout places.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:25 AM

64. So what if they are?

I fail to see the relevancy.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:05 AM

20. One of the women shot was a customer

She was there with her husband to get a massage for the first time as part of a date night. Her husband survived, hiding in another room. To imply this place was only a sex shop is denigrating to her.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:10 AM

21. Who cares?

 

Honestly what does it matter in relation to this case?

This is the narrative that I hate. The MEdia does this every time. Why would someone kill these people? There must be some reason why HE did that to them. Oh there may be sex going on in there? I see so he was bothered by that?

I am not syaing they outright excuse the entire tragedy but they play into the killers defense when they do this. And at large they (knowingly or not) create this possibility that society made him do it because they have allowed this other thing to go on.

He killed people. Full stop. That is it.

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Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:12 AM

22. If human trafficking is part of the story you don't care?

Wow. That’s rough.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:15 AM

23. Are there facts to back up the claims people are making?

 

I see a lot of allegations being made in this thread without a lot of facts and proof.

It is fully a different matter.

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Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:43 AM

31. The facts that matter

He murdered eight people - six of them Asian women

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Response to malaise (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:32 AM

66. Correct!

 

I completely agree.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:20 AM

24. Also you are not going to pin on me

 

Also you are not going to pin on me that I do not care about the issue of sex trafficking. You are not.

The OP directly linked the killers motivation to the wonderment if Asian massage parlours have sex for money.... That does NOT matter when discussing why a man decided to blow away 8 women. There is no justification for that. I would by all means hope that there isn't sex trafficking going on and hope that issue is being handled. I would hope that we wouldn't assume that is what is happening simply because a poster has: "often wondered seeing those Asian massage studios with all the drapes in the windows if that was the case"

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:37 AM

26. This looks like victim blaming cause most sane people don't trust mass murderers word for anything.

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Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:07 AM

45. Then why discuss their race or sex?

That's victim blaming?

How are we saying it was OK to murder them by discussing why?

Was that the case with Ted Bundy - we discuss his psyche and what went wrong and that means we justified the murders? That's ridiculous. You can tell the difference, so why are you trying to assign such an opinion to others?

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Response to treestar (Reply #45)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:31 AM

65. You are playing into his defense.

 

This is exactly what he wants.

What evidence is there that there was sex? But look what is happening in this thread.... Accusations of underage sex trafficking. Heck, the op says “I have always wondered about those ASIAN massages”....

If I said “geez I have always wondered if those ASIAN restaurants are really serving dog” would that be acceptable? Of course not.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:31 AM

25. A USA Today article about it...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2021/03/17/atlanta-spa-shootings-illicit-reviews-massage-parlors/4737755001/

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The suspect in the fatal shootings at three Georgia spas has told authorities he blamed the massage businesses for providing an outlet for his addiction to sex.

Robert Aaron Long viewed the spas as "a temptation that he wanted to eliminate," according to a Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office spokesman.

Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said the spas were not on police's radar: “As far as we know in Atlanta, these are legally operating businesses.”

Yet, early signs indicate the businesses may not have been entirely above-board, leaving the women working there particularly vulnerable to abuse and violence.

All three spas are listed on Rubmaps, an erotic review site that allows users to search for and review illicit massage parlors. The site is the most popular of its kind, where buyers who call themselves “hobbyists” or “mongers” looking for sex go to find and share information, according to a study by Polaris, a nonprofit group that operates the National Human Trafficking Hotline.
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(more at link)

It was still murder, of course.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:59 AM

35. 'Rubmaps'

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:42 AM

29. Those eight people including six Asian women

were murdered by a sick fuck
When did sick white men get the right to kill anyone including prostitutes?

Lock him the fuck upp.

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Response to malaise (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:00 AM

38. It is shameful to parse the depths of a crime based on the way the victim was making his/her ...

... living, with levels between "angelic" to "they were almost asking for it."

I've had to explain, attempt to explain, why we Americans are so objectifying of people to people in other countries. And I can describe it, but damned if I can explain it.

It's a crying shame to know how to rate people and not know anything of their sole value - we are all human. We all have the right to life.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:24 AM

51. 1000000++++++

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Response to marble falls (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:31 AM

53. That's not the point people are trying to make

These women weren't "making a living" through prostitution. They were likely the victims of human trafficking there against their wills. Calling them prostitutes is not the right word, they were innocent victims of human trafficking before they were innocent victims of a mass murderer.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #53)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:43 AM

59. That's the dirty underpinning that was the crime before the murders. I've commented on that ...

... These are women who've been erased. We know not a thing about them. Their origins other than a continent is about it.

They also have families. Who may not know for years what happened to their sister, mother, aunt, daughter, and maybe some not ever because these women were likely smuggled in and trafficked and any documents are missing, stolen, fake.

There's a bunch of levels here.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:56 AM

62. This is the point people are making

The fact that these women were likely human trafficking victims before they were murdered doesn't diminish them at all, doesn't diminish the crime at all. In fact it makes it an even sadder story. And I hope that this leads to the other victims of human trafficking at these places to gain their freedom.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #53)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:15 PM

74. That's if one were to take a terrorist mass murderers word for anything

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Response to marble falls (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:01 AM

63. You nailed it

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Response to malaise (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:14 PM

72. +1

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 08:56 AM

34. Why would that matter in any way?

Eight people are dead, shot and killed by the man who is under arrest. What you suggest is certainly possible, but it is the murders of eight people that is the issue, not what those businesses did or offered.

Eight human beings were shot to death, deliberately. The shooter purchased the weapon the day before and then went to those places and murdered people.

That is all that matters in this story, really.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:03 AM

41. I'm quite sure it's being investigated alongside the murders

Police will dig into all of it. They will want to know if there was a human trafficking ring under their noses. So in that sense, it does matter. And I’m glad it does to someone.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:09 AM

46. No doubt this multiple murder thing will force an investigation

into those businesses.

I'd ask why no such investigations have taken place already. If this is "common knowledge," I have to wonder if those businesses don't have police officers and other "fine upstanding citizens" who have authority as customers. Don't you wonder that? Otherwise, would they not have already been investigated?

The nature of those businesses and the murders of eight people are two very different things. People working in those places were murdered in cold blood. Were they also victims of human trafficking? Perhaps, but that is a different investigation. Right now, there is a murder case to be prosecuted.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:00 AM

37. Rub & tug nt.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:52 AM

60. No, trafficked women being raped

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:22 AM

50. He chose to skip the non Asian aromatherapy place next door

He murdered people in the Asian massage place then went across the street to another but bypassed the non Asian aromatherapy place right next door. This was clearly targeted at Asians.

The vast majority of these massage places are legitimate. To paint them all as fronts for prostitution is showing a racial stereotype and bias.

The dehumanization of sex workers by continuing to keep it illegal is a far greater driver of human trafficking.

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Response to MoonlitKnight (Reply #50)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:54 AM

61. No, "Asian Massages" are not legitimate

They are fronts where trafficked women are routinely abused and raped.

Of course they also give some legit massages, because some folks don't get what they are. ANYONE who has been in a legit massage spa would step one foot into one of these places and know it wasn't legit.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:27 AM

52. The women who "work" there are trafficked

As are MANY of the people you see working at nail salons and Chinese restaurants. Facts.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:34 AM

54. YOu need to edit this OP

Change "where he was getting his addiction serviced in those places??" to "Is that where he raped trafficked women because he is a sociopath and rapist?"

Your OP really reads as victim blaming, and hand waving sex trafficked women. I am not saying you meant it that way, but it reads that way. And, it appears I'm not the only one who thinks that.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:35 AM

55. I don't know

I do know there is a subset of white men who are obsessed with Asian women. I don’t give a shit about his “sex addiction” or his “bad day”

I care that women are dead, targeted for their race, and by the look of the guy, he was a neckbeard piece of shit, I’ve read he was also an enthusiastic member of a church.

I know that MRAs, incels and other male supremacy organizations HATE women. I know that their numbers are growing This is not hyperbole. I’ve read some of the bullshit they put on their forums and they are being tracked by organizations that track hate groups.

DU itself used to have its share of MRAs. These fuckers cannot see their own misogyny.



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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:41 AM

58. He did not have a sex addiction. He is a murderer. Self-diagnosis is no diagnosis

at all. Murder as a justification to get rid of feelings is ridiculous, and is the same argument that many school shooters make.

People are demeaning women who were killed, like they somehow deserved a death sentence.

The victims’ lives had the same value as anyone else’s. Diminishing their humanity is sickening.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:39 AM

67. +1,000

for the truth

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Response to Politicub (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 11:41 AM

68. +1

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Response to Politicub (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:16 PM

75. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 12:05 PM

69. There are an awful lot of assumptions being made about immigrants

In this thread...

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 02:34 PM

70. Photo of one of the victims

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Response to mainer (Reply #70)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:13 PM

71. According to people in this thread that murder victim is also a slaver

If that's the case, describing her has kind hearted is something like how reports about past gun spree murderers would include quotes from neighbors describing the killer as polite or nice, etc.

I'm pointing that out because so many people in this thread have indulged in anti-asian stereotypes like all asian massage parlors are engaged in prostitution or that asian run businesses including nail salons and restaurants are engaged in human trafficking.

While we know that these spas had prostitution due to their reviews on a prostitution-review website, we don't know that the women that were killed were trafficked, working against their will, or in the country illegally and nothing about this story can tell anybody anything about the asian-owned massage parlor in their neighborhood.

On a day were everybody should be reflecting on the pervasiveness of anti-asian stereotypes it's quite disheartening to open up a thread where they're tossed around so casually.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #71)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:15 PM

73. Comment From one of her clients

Tan emigrated to the United States from China many years ago, and had an adult daughter who recently graduated from the University of Georgia, said friend and customer Greg Hynson.

Hynson, 54, said he had been seeing Tan as his massage therapist for a stiff neck and upper back for about six years. They both live in the area and had become good friends, he said.


“She was the sweetest person you’d ever meet," he told USA TODAY. "My heart was in my throat the second I heard of it. It still doesn’t seem real."

Hyson said Tan, who was known by friends as Emily, was a hardworking small-business owner. He said she always had a kind word for friends. Last October, she had a cake waiting for him on his birthday when he came to the spa.

Hyson, who runs a rubber supply company started by his father, said Tan's staff usually lived at her large nearby home when they first arrived from China, and seemed focused mostly on earning money for their families. He said Feng had only recently started working at the spa.”

Hyson angrily rejected speculation Tan's spa was providing sex services. The suspect in the fatal shootings told authorities he blamed the massage businesses for providing an outlet for his addiction to sex.

"You're coming here to get a massage. All these girls that have worked for her over the years are working for her on their own free will," he said. "They’re here for a better life. They’re diligent and work hard and all the money they make is going toward a better life for their family.”


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/03/18/who-were-atlanta-spa-shooting-victims/4746417001/

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Response to mainer (Reply #73)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:16 PM

77. People here assuming she must be a sex worker

Are just as racist as those assuming all Latinos are farm workers.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #71)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 03:16 PM

76. +1

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:03 PM

78. FYI




G. L. DiVittorio
@ginadivittorio

The Atlanta shooter that killed eight people including six Asian women that claims he's a sex addict who was trying to "eliminate temptation" drove past at least three strip clubs and a half dozen adult entertainment shops on his way between massage parlors

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Response to blogslug (Reply #78)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:23 PM

80. Interesting.

He had to kill Asians.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Thu Mar 18, 2021, 04:15 PM

79. You seem tired today...

 

'I wonder if you have slept much...'

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