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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWaPo Opinion: Did covid-19 escape from a Wuhan lab? The WHO report can't be the final word.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/22/did-covid-19-escape-wuhan-lab-who-report-cant-be-final-word/Hopefully WaPo isn't yet considered a right-wing conspiracy rag.
March 22, 2021 at 7:23 a.m. PDT
David Feith, an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security, is a former deputy assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs.
The World Health Organizations final report on its investigation into covid-19s origin is due any day now. But a major revelation has already emerged: This month, two members of the WHO investigative team acknowledged that lab workers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China were sick from what, it is not yet clear in fall 2019, before the public coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan.
That information confirms an assertion in a Jan. 15 statement by the State Department (where I worked at the time), and it represents the sort of fact pattern that investigators would expect if covid originated with an accidental lab leak, one of several possible but unproven theories.
So will the final WHO report focus on the Wuhan Institute of Virology? Dont count on it. Because the same WHO investigators who responding to media inquiries confirmed the existence of the sick lab workers immediately played down the importance of the information.
(snip)
Perhaps the WHO final report will supply evidence to justify the investigators apparent lack of interest in pursuing the lab-leak theory. Does the WHO have the names of the lab researchers who fell ill? Were they interviewed? Has the WHO seen their medical records? Antibody test results? If so, will the information be included in the WHO report?
How could such an important investigation risk its credibility by including possibly conflicted investigators? Well, the WHO investigation isnt just a WHO investigation. It is a joint effort between the WHO, which convened some 19 international investigators, and the Chinese government, which selected 17 Chinese researchers and also had veto power over the foreign experts. The investigators wont be able to publish findings without official Chinese concurrence.
More at link above, perhaps behind paywall.
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struggle4progress
(118,224 posts)Ocelot II
(115,584 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Ocelot II
(115,584 posts)and therefore is about as credible as his dad.
Jirel
(2,014 posts)WHO investigated. There was no lack of interest in pursuing the origin. There is just LACK OF EVIDENCE of any link to the lab.
Stupid QAnon BS trying to whip up more Asian hatred.
intrepidity
(7,275 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/theory-that-coronavirus-escaped-from-a-lab-lacks-evidence-67229
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/30/fact-check-wuhan-lab-vaccine-research-affiliates-not-linked/4086363001/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/16/li-meng-yan/tucker-carlson-guest-airs-debunked-conspiracy-theo/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/02/24/pers-f24.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-experts-visit-wuhan-lab-at-center-of-virus-conspiracy-theory/ar-BB1dkPsS
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080868/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-conspiracy-theory-will-not-go-away
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-china-lab-mortality-virology-wuhan-virus-not-bioweapon/
Ocelot II
(115,584 posts)and therefore his report and his opinion are suspect.
hlthe2b
(102,119 posts)Yes, WAPO will publish opinion pieces from RW pundits. This guy's educational "claim to fame?" A BA in History and postings to the State Dept. UNDER TRUMP, 2017-2020.
Not sure why you are determined to believe conspiracy theory rather than the world's prominent Virologists from CDC, WHO, the European CDC and elsewhere but you be you. If you are determined to believe the Trump and RW party line and all their various conspiracy theories, I can't help you.
DU should NOT be propagating this.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Same poster keeps popping up with the same crap today.
hlthe2b
(102,119 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)kcr
(15,314 posts)regardless of the source. Edit looking at the responses, it appears they can. Too bad for you.
intrepidity
(7,275 posts)kcr
(15,314 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)Ocelot II
(115,584 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)This "theory" has been dis proven by science a # of times.
Hekate
(90,552 posts)...so we can discern that.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)There's a big difference IMHO between 'a naturally occurring virus that was being studied in a lab and accidentally escaped' vs. 'a lab-CREATED virus'.
I'm very confident in the level of certainty expressed by experts when they say it's not lab-created, rather that it's naturally-occurring. Because this is the kind of thing you can determine by looking at the virus' genetics.
I'm slightly less confident with the level of certainty re: whether it might have been a natural virus where the outbreak started via an accidental exposure of virologists studying it.
BY NO MEANS am I saying that last thing is what happened. I'm just not sure that we're as certain that couldn't have happened. I suspect that could be harder to detect, esp. if the government does not want the world to know that it did. You cannot determine this ... just by looking at the virus.
And to very clear, absent evidence that this IS what happened, nobody should be assuming ... it did.
intrepidity
(7,275 posts)I'm befuddled that this issue is controversial at all!.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)And none of us want to unintentionally 'make it worse', especially w/o actual proof.
Also ... any hint of something coming from a right-wing source/person is always looked at askance on DU. 99% of the time, we're right to look at it that way.
This is the kind of thing though, where humanity can't afford to 'get it wrong'.
Any virus lab-containment issues in any country, with any race of people involved ... is too serious of a subject. We need 100% on this one.
MHO.
intrepidity
(7,275 posts)What is especially frustrating to me is the number of posters here who think this is cut-and-dried, settled beyond question--and that is so utterly, tragically far from the truth.
And it could barely be a more critical issue!
kcr
(15,314 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)blm
(113,008 posts)share your analysis of this RightWing opinion piece.
PSPS
(13,579 posts)dpibel
(2,826 posts)Seems the OP doesn't really want to engage on this topic...
gulliver
(13,168 posts)A question or statement by anyone should be considered less than worthless (when it comes to COVID) unless the question is motivated by data.
As an example, "Does the WHO have the names of the lab researches who fell ill?" That question is a statement that lab researches fell ill. It's called an enthymeme. Therefore, unless the person asking the question has the names of lab researches who fell ill, we should assume the person is wrong to ask the question, intentionally (for malignant reasons) or foolishly (due to incompetence and blindness to the damage the question causes).