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blm

(113,475 posts)
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:17 PM Mar 2021

Reminder:It was RightWing extremists lighting fires, shooting up buildings

under the cover of the Floyd protests. They knew BLM would be blamed. Most media and most of the public have been conditioned to believe the violence was BLM and Antifa. ALWAYS correct the record.
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A far-right extremist has been accused of opening fire on Minneapolis' third police precinct and sparking violence during May's George Floyd protests.

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Texas, was charged Friday with one count of interstate travel to participate in a riot. An admitted member of the "Boogaloo Bois," Hunter opened fire on the precinct and later looted it and helped set it on fire, the FBI said in a sworn affidavit released Friday.

....police precinct....became the center of protests against police violence that devolved into the destruction of the precinct and buildings around it. Hunter is one of several far-right extremists accused of intentionally ramping up that violence. Armed with a mask and tactical gear, Hunter fired 13 rounds at the precinct while officers were inside and ran away shouting "Justice for Floyd," the FBI alleges. He later bragged about "help[ing] the community burn down that police station" on Facebook.

Hunter admitted he was member of the Boogaloo movement, a collection of far-right, anti-government extremists intent on sparking a second civil war. He was in contact with other self-described Boogaloo Bois who arranged a trip to Minneapolis. He also texted with Steven Carrillo, another Boogaloo member who later shot and killed a sheriff's deputy in California.


https://news.yahoo.com/far-extremist-shot-minneapolis-police-184300735.html

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/23/man-linked-far-right-boogaloo-bois-charged-after-allegedly-firing-ak-47-minneapolis-precinct/



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Reminder:It was RightWing extremists lighting fires, shooting up buildings (Original Post) blm Mar 2021 OP
Minneapolis Police Link 'Umbrella Man' to White Supremacy Group dalton99a Mar 2021 #1
These are the thugs that show up at BLM protests that the repugs call antifa. brush Mar 2021 #2
+1 dalton99a Mar 2021 #4
+2 2naSalit Mar 2021 #10
Anti-fascists get blamed for crimes of anarchists, too. blm Mar 2021 #11
Yes. Remember the young, white girl who started the McDonnells fire in the Atlanta protest? brush Mar 2021 #12
Yep. BLM got the blame, then Antifascists blm Mar 2021 #14
I say no, they're not antifa, they're profa. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #13
True. But there's no value for republicans to admit people on their side of the aisle are the ones.. brush Mar 2021 #16
Blaming their own violence on antifascists blm Mar 2021 #22
I've shared these facts with the wingnuts I argue with numerous times and agree it's very important Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #3
There are more including the 2nd link posted above. blm Mar 2021 #5
Post removed Post removed Mar 2021 #6
The worst of the violence and ALL the copkillings blm Mar 2021 #7
You sound pleasant MenloParque Mar 2021 #8
I replied appropriately to the post as written. blm Mar 2021 #9
You do get, right, that anti-fascists (so-called antifa) are on our side? brush Mar 2021 #15
Odd sentiment all around. blm Mar 2021 #21
Yep, remember Umbrella man Ohioboy Mar 2021 #17
The only police officer that died in conjunction with the BLM protests was bullwinkle428 Mar 2021 #18
Even though it was dark when the police building was up in flames wryter2000 Mar 2021 #19
So true. Anarchists and RW extremist groups want chaos blm Mar 2021 #20

dalton99a

(82,494 posts)
1. Minneapolis Police Link 'Umbrella Man' to White Supremacy Group
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:19 PM
Mar 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-identified-minneapolis.html
Minneapolis Police Link ‘Umbrella Man’ to White Supremacy Group
A search warrant affidavit seeks cellphone records for a man the police believe smashed store windows with a sledgehammer to provoke racial unrest.

blm

(113,475 posts)
11. Anti-fascists get blamed for crimes of anarchists, too.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:13 PM
Mar 2021

The public doesn’t learn the distinction from media, unfortunately.

brush

(55,356 posts)
12. Yes. Remember the young, white girl who started the McDonnells fire in the Atlanta protest?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:23 PM
Mar 2021

I don't know if she was an anarchist or just an ansonist who likes to see stuff burn.

brush

(55,356 posts)
16. True. But there's no value for republicans to admit people on their side of the aisle are the ones..
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:39 PM
Mar 2021

setting fires and smashing windows. They even tried to blame the Jan. 6 insurrection on so-called antifa.

blm

(113,475 posts)
22. Blaming their own violence on antifascists
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:50 PM
Mar 2021

and BLM. Every Republican in congress knows they are lying when they shift blame away from their violent, murderous base.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I've shared these facts with the wingnuts I argue with numerous times and agree it's very important
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

That being said, this is one example, not really enough to account for all the instances of things being set on fire or whatnot during the protests.

Its good for planting an element of doubt, however + a LOT of people haven't heard of this guy, and they need to.

Response to blm (Original post)

blm

(113,475 posts)
7. The worst of the violence and ALL the copkillings
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:40 PM
Mar 2021

during those summer protests were committed by Rightwingers.

Antifa gets blamed by you so you can pretend they’re the same? GTFOH with that GOP talking point.

MenloParque

(529 posts)
8. You sound pleasant
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:52 PM
Mar 2021

I don’t know who you think you are talking to but I have been involved in more Equal rights marches and protests as a BLACK WOMAN since the 1970’s than you can even imagine. I can guarantee you. I also have eyes and ears. Sure, right wing groups are fuckheads but you cannot sit there and tell me Antifa is absolutely innocent in any of the protests the last few years.

blm

(113,475 posts)
9. I replied appropriately to the post as written.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 02:28 PM
Mar 2021

Antifa and RightWing extremist groups are nowhere in the same realm.
After Jan6 the RW media and GOP lie machine has been pushing the narrative that the two are the same.

We call out RW talking points here no matter who posts them. You posted them here. Anti-fascists don’t come out to murder, destroy, and loot. Neither does BLM. Only FOX watchers and GOP voters believe that propaganda.

Are you confusing the destructive anarchists with the anti-fascism left? If so, that’s a mistake on your part. Anarchists have most in common with the RightWing extremist groups.

brush

(55,356 posts)
15. You do get, right, that anti-fascists (so-called antifa) are on our side?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:34 PM
Mar 2021

Republicans like to equate them with extreme right wing groups like the Proud Boys, Bugaloo Boys and the Oath Keepers.

Not so. Republicans even tried to blame Jan. 6 on them. Also, anti-fascists are not a centralized, organized group with chapters and officers and the like. It's a concept that like-minded people against wingers, magats and violent militia, share.

bullwinkle428

(20,636 posts)
18. The only police officer that died in conjunction with the BLM protests was
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:43 PM
Mar 2021

killed at the hands of another BOOGALOO BOI.

A California man charged with killing a federal officer and a sheriff's deputy has ties to the far-right "Boogaloo" movement, according to federal authorities.

Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was charged with killing federal service officer David Patrick Underwood, 53, near a Black Lives Matter protest at an Oakland courthouse on May 29, the Department of Justice announced on Tuesday.

Carrillo faces federal murder charges in Underwood's death, as well as an attempted murder charge after allegedly severely wounding a fellow federal officer at the courthouse. Both officers were members of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service.

A second man, Robert Alvin Justus Jr., was charged with aiding and abetting after he admitted to serving as Carrillo's getaway driver in the drive-by attack on the officers, according to the FBI. Justus used the phrase "let's boogie," a reference to the far-right "Boogaloo boys" movement, in messages sent to Carrillo, the complaint said.


https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-killed-officer-after-using-black-lives-matter-protest-as-cover-prosecutors/

wryter2000

(46,815 posts)
19. Even though it was dark when the police building was up in flames
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:20 PM
Mar 2021

i could tell watching the silhouettes of the rioters in front of the building that they weren't BLM. They were dancing and hopping all around in celebration. It looked nothing at all like the way BLM marchers had behaved themselves. At another point, it was half a dozen young white men who were trying to break into a store to loot.

At the time, especially at the beginning, they reminded me of the anarchists who'd made such a mess of the anti-Iraq war protests. But I knew in my bones they weren't BLM.

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