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under the cover of the Floyd protests. They knew BLM would be blamed. Most media and most of the public have been conditioned to believe the violence was BLM and Antifa. ALWAYS correct the record.
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A far-right extremist has been accused of opening fire on Minneapolis' third police precinct and sparking violence during May's George Floyd protests.
Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Texas, was charged Friday with one count of interstate travel to participate in a riot. An admitted member of the "Boogaloo Bois," Hunter opened fire on the precinct and later looted it and helped set it on fire, the FBI said in a sworn affidavit released Friday.
....police precinct....became the center of protests against police violence that devolved into the destruction of the precinct and buildings around it. Hunter is one of several far-right extremists accused of intentionally ramping up that violence. Armed with a mask and tactical gear, Hunter fired 13 rounds at the precinct while officers were inside and ran away shouting "Justice for Floyd," the FBI alleges. He later bragged about "help[ing] the community burn down that police station" on Facebook.
Hunter admitted he was member of the Boogaloo movement, a collection of far-right, anti-government extremists intent on sparking a second civil war. He was in contact with other self-described Boogaloo Bois who arranged a trip to Minneapolis. He also texted with Steven Carrillo, another Boogaloo member who later shot and killed a sheriff's deputy in California.
https://news.yahoo.com/far-extremist-shot-minneapolis-police-184300735.html
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/23/man-linked-far-right-boogaloo-bois-charged-after-allegedly-firing-ak-47-minneapolis-precinct/
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)Minneapolis Police Link Umbrella Man to White Supremacy Group
A search warrant affidavit seeks cellphone records for a man the police believe smashed store windows with a sledgehammer to provoke racial unrest.
brush
(53,741 posts)blm
(113,010 posts)The public doesnt learn the distinction from media, unfortunately.
brush
(53,741 posts)I don't know if she was an anarchist or just an ansonist who likes to see stuff burn.
blm
(113,010 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,576 posts)Pro-fascist
brush
(53,741 posts)setting fires and smashing windows. They even tried to blame the Jan. 6 insurrection on so-called antifa.
blm
(113,010 posts)and BLM. Every Republican in congress knows they are lying when they shift blame away from their violent, murderous base.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)That being said, this is one example, not really enough to account for all the instances of things being set on fire or whatnot during the protests.
Its good for planting an element of doubt, however + a LOT of people haven't heard of this guy, and they need to.
blm
(113,010 posts)Response to blm (Original post)
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blm
(113,010 posts)during those summer protests were committed by Rightwingers.
Antifa gets blamed by you so you can pretend theyre the same? GTFOH with that GOP talking point.
MenloParque
(512 posts)I dont know who you think you are talking to but I have been involved in more Equal rights marches and protests as a BLACK WOMAN since the 1970s than you can even imagine. I can guarantee you. I also have eyes and ears. Sure, right wing groups are fuckheads but you cannot sit there and tell me Antifa is absolutely innocent in any of the protests the last few years.
blm
(113,010 posts)Antifa and RightWing extremist groups are nowhere in the same realm.
After Jan6 the RW media and GOP lie machine has been pushing the narrative that the two are the same.
We call out RW talking points here no matter who posts them. You posted them here. Anti-fascists dont come out to murder, destroy, and loot. Neither does BLM. Only FOX watchers and GOP voters believe that propaganda.
Are you confusing the destructive anarchists with the anti-fascism left? If so, thats a mistake on your part. Anarchists have most in common with the RightWing extremist groups.
brush
(53,741 posts)Republicans like to equate them with extreme right wing groups like the Proud Boys, Bugaloo Boys and the Oath Keepers.
Not so. Republicans even tried to blame Jan. 6 on them. Also, anti-fascists are not a centralized, organized group with chapters and officers and the like. It's a concept that like-minded people against wingers, magats and violent militia, share.
blm
(113,010 posts)Antifascists arent murderers.
Ohioboy
(3,238 posts)He certainly wasn't a BLM supporter.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)killed at the hands of another BOOGALOO BOI.
Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was charged with killing federal service officer David Patrick Underwood, 53, near a Black Lives Matter protest at an Oakland courthouse on May 29, the Department of Justice announced on Tuesday.
Carrillo faces federal murder charges in Underwood's death, as well as an attempted murder charge after allegedly severely wounding a fellow federal officer at the courthouse. Both officers were members of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service.
A second man, Robert Alvin Justus Jr., was charged with aiding and abetting after he admitted to serving as Carrillo's getaway driver in the drive-by attack on the officers, according to the FBI. Justus used the phrase "let's boogie," a reference to the far-right "Boogaloo boys" movement, in messages sent to Carrillo, the complaint said.
https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-killed-officer-after-using-black-lives-matter-protest-as-cover-prosecutors/
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)i could tell watching the silhouettes of the rioters in front of the building that they weren't BLM. They were dancing and hopping all around in celebration. It looked nothing at all like the way BLM marchers had behaved themselves. At another point, it was half a dozen young white men who were trying to break into a store to loot.
At the time, especially at the beginning, they reminded me of the anarchists who'd made such a mess of the anti-Iraq war protests. But I knew in my bones they weren't BLM.
blm
(113,010 posts)and to watch the country collapse.