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Can someone explain to me why a jar of strawberry jam had to be imported from Egypt and a box... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Mar 2021 OP
well, i googled because i have no idea what the f*ck you're talking about orleans Mar 2021 #1
Perhaps there are people from Egypt in the United States who are partial to a particular Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #2
Can't speak for the jam. I guess people like it. GulfCoast66 Mar 2021 #3
My wife and I prefer Austrian sour cherry preserves. Best ever! NCjack Mar 2021 #10
I'm in Northern California and have more oranges growing here than I can eat... Rollo Mar 2021 #13
I'm in North Bay, my experience with oranges here tend to be somewhat bitter, but they do produce msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #26
Context? n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #4
What happened after that? NBachers Mar 2021 #5
He fixes the cable (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2021 #9
because they are grown or produced in those locations? Kali Mar 2021 #6
Global supply and demand market functioning. Celerity Mar 2021 #7
Because US Jelly is terrible. dilby Mar 2021 #8
Jam and jelly are two different things... Rollo Mar 2021 #12
I've made my own jams and jellies. alphafemale Mar 2021 #17
You've got to get local preserves or jam, not the commercial crap. Oneironaut Mar 2021 #21
LOL, ok! Nt USALiberal Mar 2021 #22
Darn, can't remember what, but when reading about supply chain issues, Hortensis Mar 2021 #11
Wut mahina Mar 2021 #14
Local taste, maybe? DFW Mar 2021 #15
most pickles come from India KT2000 Mar 2021 #16
Well, there are delicacies the world over that one would love to eat if they could $$$ hlthe2b Mar 2021 #18
I buy all of my extra virgin olive oil from Lebanon... brooklynite Mar 2021 #19
That's not quite as outrageous as imported bottles of water. Towlie Mar 2021 #20
"Had to be"? onenote Mar 2021 #23
Trade deals. We buy their stuff, they buy ours, and middlemen mark everything up. NightWatcher Mar 2021 #24
It doesn't have to be. It just is. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #25

orleans

(34,049 posts)
1. well, i googled because i have no idea what the f*ck you're talking about
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:16 AM
Mar 2021

and lo and behold, here's the headline that might explain that jam
"Strawberry Jam Market 2021 – Identify New Opportunities in Countries and Regions"
https://bisouv.com/uncategorized/3603996/strawberry-jam-market-2021-identify-new-opportunities-in-countries-and-regions/

hope this helps answer at least part of your question

i did not google anything about oranges and morrocco

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Perhaps there are people from Egypt in the United States who are partial to a particular
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:23 AM
Mar 2021

brand of Strawberry Jam from their Homeland?

Or ... maybe even there's non-Egyptians that like it?

Safe bet that the answer boils down to 'because someone wants to buy it'.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
3. Can't speak for the jam. I guess people like it.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:51 AM
Mar 2021

But Oranges? Few parts of America can grow them. Especially mandarins which are so easy to eat. Not grown much here in Florida. California can grow them, but not enough to supply the nation.

My wife loves a French brand of jams. Is that a problem? I’m more a honey guy and buy from local producers.

We buy what we like.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
13. I'm in Northern California and have more oranges growing here than I can eat...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 04:23 AM
Mar 2021

I have noticed the warmer temps for the past few years have resulted in better orange yields as well. I don't think we have had any freezing weather in this location (East Bay Area) this winter. Although we did get some hail one afternoon. The orange trees shrugged it off.

I've been donating oranges to a local shelter...


msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
26. I'm in North Bay, my experience with oranges here tend to be somewhat bitter, but they do produce
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:07 AM
Mar 2021

quite a bit. Oakland lends itself to better quality, I think it has to do with more moderate temps there. I know that Meyers Lemons are out of this world there. My daughter lives in Fruitvale and I benefit from the myriad of fruit trees in her back yard.



dilby

(2,273 posts)
8. Because US Jelly is terrible.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 02:09 AM
Mar 2021

It’s nasty, should not even be allowed to be called Jam, UK and the rest of the world makes far superior Jam.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
12. Jam and jelly are two different things...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 04:17 AM
Mar 2021

AFAIK. I tend to prefer jam, because it seems to have more flavor and character. But I can't remember the last time I purchased a jar of either.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
21. You've got to get local preserves or jam, not the commercial crap.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:07 AM
Mar 2021

They’re usually sold by farms and homemade. Yummy!

The commercial stuff is corn syrup in a bottle and is more like a science experiment than food.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Darn, can't remember what, but when reading about supply chain issues,
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 03:31 AM
Mar 2021

I learned that large amounts of some common product are shipped halfway around the planet for lower-cost processing and then shipped back to continue production into the final product. Expect that's the case with many others.

Reminds me of the CA gold rush days when some miners with the wherewithal sent their clothes to Hawaii for laundering.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
15. Local taste, maybe?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 04:51 AM
Mar 2021

When I'm in the States, I look at the ingredients of what I buy, and much of the jam I see is made with high fructose corn syrup, an ingredient widely reputed to be a dangerous additive. Not only jam, for that matter. I noticed last time that many brands of cocktail sauce for shrimp (we always go to Cape Cod) have it, too, even such otherwise good brands such as Bookbinders and Crosse & Blackwell. Legal Sea Foods brand doesn't use it, so we buy that. High fructose corn syrup is not listed as an ingredient here in the EU, presumably because they know as well as the Americans that it can be bad news. The USA still permits it, so we have to look to avoid it. We don't care where our jam comes from as long as HFCS isn't in it. Smuckers always uses it, so we never buy that brand.

As for the oranges, no idea. I remember when I was little, my dad was all excited to bring home Jaffa oranges, imported from Israel, and they were pretty good. Were better ones grown in California or Florida? No idea. Maybe the Israeli ones were cheaper? I can't imagine getting them to Virginia on a boat was cheaper than trucking them in from the west coast or the gulf coast, but I'm not in the produce business, and have no idea. I don't even know if Morocco bans Roundup.

The EU wanted to ban Roundup and brands containing glyphosate, a known carcinogen, but then Bayer, a German firm, bought up Monsanto (no one has yet figured out why), and the ban on Roundup was shelved for at least five years. The USA by no means has a monopoly on corruption.

For a few years, DU was monitored by a Monsanto operative who only posted when someone posted about the ills of pesticides, and Monsanto's Roundup in particular, and this poster ONLY showed up to trash people who warned about the dangers of Glyphosate. I guess they must have gotten a higher position in Monsanto's management, or else joined the Trump campaign, or some such job, because they no longer show up here.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
18. Well, there are delicacies the world over that one would love to eat if they could $$$
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:15 AM
Mar 2021

Now, I don't buy any of it because I can't justify the $$, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't. Morrocans prize their oranges in a number of dishes, so there must be a specific variety that is hard to find or not grown here?

In years past, I have purchased an imported Lavender honey from France that was genuinely the best honey I ever had. (it was produced from bees-fed lavender and not merely honey with lavender essence added as you will find in the US). I haven't had it in years, but I'd buy it again if it were not so expensive.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
23. "Had to be"?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:24 AM
Mar 2021

Do you think there is some requirement that these things be imported? Or that folks having a choice of products is troublesome? Not sure why you asked the question.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
24. Trade deals. We buy their stuff, they buy ours, and middlemen mark everything up.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:24 AM
Mar 2021

Thank you for attending this TedTalk.

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